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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 03-Jun-20 14:27:18
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Large events possible disruption incoming.


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Amazon Prime video have announced they will be streaming 4 live Premier League games for free.The games will be also available to stream for free to non prime members.
As we saw with their last live game streaming events there was disruption to some peoples connections. Those games were not free for non prime members. We can anticipate that with an even larger audience these next events may possibly cause disruption again.
Which games they will be streaming have not been decided so no dates and times yet.

BBC will also be showing 4 games live as well on air and the iplayer. There may be possible disruption on the iplayer to for those who don't have access to a TV.

Sky Sports will also be showing games live for free on Freeview. There might be disruption again from people with no access to a TV streaming online as well.

This is just a heads up to let people know and not a certainty there will be disruption.

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(deleted) Thu 11-Jun-20 19:17:48
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Monday, June 29, 8pm is the 1st game to be shown on Amazon.
Crystal Palace vs Burnley. Not a category A game. Might not be much demand.
Standard User DanielCoffey67
(member) Fri 12-Jun-20 07:20:09
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How do they gatekeeper these Live events for non-TV License folks? I am among the people who have opted out of the License Fee and do not watch live TV. I am aware it covers live programming over the internet as well as cable or broadcast.


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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 12-Jun-20 09:14:01
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Maybe they will be sending out the "TV Detector vans" again - I didn't realise until now that you needed a TV license for live streaming Amazon services as well, but apparently you do. I guess it is no different to how they check if someone has plugged an aerial into their TV to watch live TV.
Standard User mking90031
(regular) Fri 12-Jun-20 09:25:39
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Hi,

FYI, you need a license for anything that either IS live or WAS live (i.e. a recording). Only if you use streaming services to watch non-live events like films or old shows do you NOT need a license.

HTH,

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 12-Jun-20 09:36:21
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But how do they enforce it on something like Amazon? Are Amazon going to send a list of everyone that accessed the stream to the TV Licensing authority so they can check against the license database? Or are they going to go around knocking doors to check people without licenses to see if they are watching live TV?
Standard User gary333
(committed) Fri 12-Jun-20 09:40:03
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In reply to a post by ian72:
But how do they enforce it on something like Amazon? Are Amazon going to send a list of everyone that accessed the stream to the TV Licensing authority so they can check against the license database? Or are they going to go around knocking doors to check people without licenses to see if they are watching live TV?


They can't check this (at the moment). They just expect people to be honest.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 12-Jun-20 09:54:39
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That works for most people but I am sure there will be a minority that like to get it free just like they use sites that have unlicensed films to get around paying for a movie.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 12-Jun-20 10:27:14
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In reply to a post by mking90031:
Hi,

FYI, you need a license for anything that either IS live or WAS live (i.e. a recording). Only if you use streaming services to watch non-live events like films or old shows do you NOT need a license.

HTH,
Does that apply to all recorded TV, or just iPlayer?

Watching iPlayer catchup of "live" events used to be free of licence requirement. Only relatively recently did the BBC try to restrict it to licence holders.

Edit: I think the answer is that it only applies to iPlayer. (My bold).
Do I need a TV Licence for all on demand programmes?

No. You don’t need a licence if you only ever watch on demand or catch up programmes on services other than BBC iPlayer* (and you also never watch live TV programmes on any channel, including on iPlayer).

You don’t need to be covered by a licence to watch any films or TV shows that you buy online.

*You don’t need a licence to watch S4C TV on demand or listen to radio on iPlayer. You also don’t need one to watch films or TV shows on iPlayer that you’ve bought on the BBC Store.


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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 12-Jun-20 10:53:16
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Does that apply to all recorded TV, or just iPlayer?

Specifically, one needs a licence to watch live TV, record live TV in order to watch later, or to watch BBC iPlayer.

With catch up services the viewer is not the one doing the recording.

Oliver.
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