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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Jul-20 15:48:05
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Re: BT/Openreach migration gateway


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Look like your line are getting 80Meg soon. On your stats increase 3Mbps per 1dB snr reduced


But you said...

In reply to a post by adslmax:
I be very surprise a large jump from 70Mbps to 80Mbps for an extra 3dB lower snr if it has happen (I think stick to 73-74Mbps)


I did say that each 1dB is worth 3-4Mb on lines that make good use of the D3 band.
Any line syncing at 70Mb is making good use of the D3 band.

His sync increased by 3.3Mb with a 1dB drop in SNRM.
His line will reach 80Mb if it drops to 3dB.

You know better though smile
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Thu 02-Jul-20 18:49:50
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Re: BT/Openreach migration gateway


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How can you tell if band D3 are good or bad?

PN FTTC 80/20 since 2014
Standard User sparky_paul
(experienced) Sat 04-Jul-20 09:10:49
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Re: BT/Openreach migration gateway


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Day 9, another resync...

NEW STATS

DSL uptime:0 days,06 Hours14 Mins18 Secs
Data rate:19.999 Mbps / 76.167 Mbps
Maximum data rate:23.804 Mbps / 77.710 Mbps
Noise margin:15.3 / 4.2
Line attenuation:7.2 / 13.1
Signal attenuation:7.2 / 14.7
VLAN id:101
Upstream error control:Off
Downstream error control:Off

PREVIOUS (DAY 7)

Data rate:19.999 Mbps / 73.953 Mbps
Maximum data rate:23.637 Mbps / 75.851 Mbps
Noise margin:15.4 / 5.3
Line attenuation:7.2 / 13.1
Signal attenuation:7.1 / 14.5

That's 4dB SNR, but a smaller improvement in sync this time. Will it make 80?

Day 0 - Activation (60.2 DL)
Day 3 - Power cut! (56.2)
Day 5 - G.INP switched on (70.1)
Day 7 - SNR 6 >>> 5dB (73.9)
Day 9 - SNR 5 >>> 4dB (76.1)

>>> BTFibre 2 FTTC

Edited by sparky_paul (Sat 04-Jul-20 09:47:33)


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Standard User sparky_paul
(experienced) Sat 04-Jul-20 19:02:58
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Re: BT/Openreach migration gateway


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Just had final invoice from previous ADSL supplier, 30 day notice from order date, as expected...

and a £30+VAT cease fee mad

>>> BTFibre 2 FTTC
Standard User sparky_paul
(experienced) Sun 05-Jul-20 12:03:01
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What's this cease fee all about? I've fired off an email to them, see what they say.

>>> BTFibre 2 FTTC
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 05-Jul-20 14:53:44
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Re: BT/Openreach migration gateway


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What's this cease fee all about? I've fired off an email to them, see what they say.


At no point in the thread have you said who the old provider was.

With some ISP's if the service is ceased rather than migrated there is a cease fee.
BT Wholesale pass this on to the ISP, some ISP's pass this to the customer, some absorb it.

There's likely nothing you can do about it.

Edited by j0hn83 (Sun 05-Jul-20 14:54:10)

Standard User sparky_paul
(experienced) Sun 05-Jul-20 15:42:01
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Re: BT/Openreach migration gateway


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In reply to a post by j0hn83:
At no point in the thread have you said who the old provider was.

With some ISP's if the service is ceased rather than migrated there is a cease fee.
BT Wholesale pass this on to the ISP, some ISP's pass this to the customer, some absorb it.

There's likely nothing you can do about it.

I did mention it was Eclipse (KCOM) back on switchover day. I didn't think it would be that important, as they are all BTw through our exchange.

Surely this is a migration, rather than a cease - BTw provider to BT?

Don't they have to tell you about this charge at some point?

>>> BTFibre 2 FTTC

Edited by sparky_paul (Sun 05-Jul-20 15:57:26)

Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 05-Jul-20 18:12:30
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Re: BT/Openreach migration gateway


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Edit: my mistake, ignore.

https://business.kcom.com/media/175902/eclipse_terms...

It's in Kcom's t&C's (8.2) so unlikely they would waive this.

Most ISP's charge £30 when a cease applies.

Edited by j0hn83 (Sun 05-Jul-20 19:04:44)

Standard User Realalemadrid
(committed) Sun 05-Jul-20 18:57:41
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Re: BT/Openreach migration gateway


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No it isn't. It's a 80/20 FTTC service that the OP has migrated to.

Edited by Realalemadrid (Sun 05-Jul-20 18:59:02)

Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 05-Jul-20 19:02:36
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Re: BT/Openreach migration gateway


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No it isn't. It's a FTTC service that the OP has migrated to.


Reading too many threads at once I think.

No idea what circumstances the cease should be applied in all honesty.

The likes of Plusnet and BT absorb the cease fee while others apply it on eBay and like a random basis on occasions.

It might be related to having a separate landline and broadband service?

Worth querying with Kcom considering it's btw to btw.
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