No problem.

It's all too easy to get hot under the collar, when all we want to do is chat and bounce ideas off others.

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In reply to a post by danielhyde:

I can give you an example from a broadband provider that we use of the difference in cost.
A SoGEA 80/20 FTTC product is £2 per month ex VAT cheaper than the same product with PSTN line rental.
Just to clarify they are the Wholesale cost.

Thanks
Dan

You gave an example without giving the example?

I did say in my post...

There are a couple ISP's who sell SOGEA with no VOIP.
It tends to be £1 or £2 a month cheaper, or still the exact same price.

I'm confused what you mean by a broadband provider you use, then you say that's the wholesale cost.

What exactly do you mean by wholesale cost? To me that would be the cost the provider pays.

The example is in the next line.
The wholesale cost is what we pay, we then add our profit on before we charge the customer.
We are given an RRP for the products, the RRP for SoGEA FTTC is £39.95 + VAT and for PSTN rental and FTCC it is £41.45+VAT.
These are also the prices the provider charges if you were to buy it from them directly.

Thanks
Dan

Thanks Dan

I posted saying SOGEA without VOIP from a couple providers is £1-2 a month cheaper than broadband with POTS.

You replied to me saying I can give an example from a provider of a difference in cost.
I was really expecting you to post the company in question, not the exact same example pricing I had quoted and you were replying to.

Most posters on here are consumers.
Those who are not tend to disclose within their post that they aren't specifically discussing consumer pricing.
I try my best but I can't read minds yet.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

I posted saying SOGEA without VOIP from a couple providers is £1-2 a month cheaper than broadband with POTS.

You replied to me saying I can give an example from a provider of a difference in cost.
I was really expecting you to post the company in question, not the exact same example pricing I had quoted and you were replying to.

Most posters on here are consumers.
Those who are not tend to disclose within their post that they aren't specifically discussing consumer pricing.
I try my best but I can't read minds yet.

I don't say that I work for a broadband reseller as all my views on here are my own and are in no way endorsed by the company.
The figures aren't exactly what you said as you said it was £1-2 cheaper, I didn't just copy what you said, I got exact costs.

Thanks
Dan

My figures were exact. I could/should have been clearer.

1 provider is £1 a month cheaper.
A different provider is £2 a month cheaper.

No need to post the company if you don't wish to.

I was simply suggesting it would have been clearer if you mentioned you were discussing prices as a reseller.

I think most people who read...

an example from a broadband provider that we use of the difference in cost

will assume you mean the price you pay as a consumer.

The mention of wholesale costs, at the same time as mentioning buying from a broadband provider, without additional context, is extremely confusing.

It's all clear now

Apart from a business we all pay vat inclusive so why not include vat inclusive costs?

A question mark constitutes a question therefore your question was answered.

"if there were half a dozen Outreach workers to one call out"

??????

EE offer SOGEA as "Fibre Without Landline". It is £2 / month cheaper than "With Landline". All it is is that you don't get any landline number nor any dialing tone. Bang goes any tests for noise on line.

You can still use BTW Availability Checker and Speedtest using other ID nos. you can get from your ISP.

Good point about the "noise on the line" test.