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Standard User sneekyhen
(learned) Thu 31-Mar-22 18:03:29
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BT HUB2


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Hi , I have just upgraded to BT FTTP and have the Hub2 , but I cant find where to respond to ping for TBB graph
Is there a Hidden page ? or is it a different router needed ?
I had a Archer VR600 on my previous Plusnet FTTC connection
Standard User beefcakechipz
(regular) Thu 31-Mar-22 18:16:21
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Switch back to plusnet tongue You know u want too smile
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 31-Mar-22 18:39:24
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In all honesty, you shouldn’t need to, it’ll just work.


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Standard User BuckleZ
(knowledge is power) Thu 31-Mar-22 20:02:19
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Re: BT HUB2


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Its blocked on the Smart Hubs - BT have always blocked WAN pings

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 31-Mar-22 22:15:31
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Re: BT HUB2


[re: BuckleZ] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by BuckleZ:
Its blocked on the Smart Hubs - BT have always blocked WAN pings



Not true.

BT Business does NOT block them and never has.


BT Consumer/Residential has only started to block them in the past few years.


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Standard User BuckleZ
(knowledge is power) Thu 31-Mar-22 22:33:26
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by BT I was referring to the Consumer product... business customers get different CPEs

All Home Hubs and Smart Hubs have not allowed pings to WAN....that goes back as far as I remember ( worked there for 3 years )

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Edited by BuckleZ (Thu 31-Mar-22 22:34:03)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 31-Mar-22 22:36:08
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NO, you referred to BT not Consumer.

And yet againn, you are wrong. I have a Smart Hub here which responds to WAN pings.


Get your FACTS right.


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Standard User BuckleZ
(knowledge is power) Thu 31-Mar-22 22:37:41
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Obviously a bug then,

Go read some of the posts on their community - where people are told there is no function to allow pings on the WAN.

I'd love to know what magic you worked to get it to respond? smile

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Standard User BuckleZ
(knowledge is power) Thu 31-Mar-22 22:39:02
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Any maybe instead of arguing with me, you could help the OP with his issue? smile

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 31-Mar-22 22:43:11
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By plugging by BT Smart Hub into my BT provided Business co nection - quite simple. My BT SmartHub responds to WAN pings, or would if I put it back on my FTTP connection.


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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Thu 31-Mar-22 23:23:34
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So what proof do you have that it will respond to pings on a consumer, not business, connection?

jelv

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 31-Mar-22 23:25:51
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A Business Smart Hub will respond on consumer connections too.

My initial post was to correct the incorrect and misleading blanket post that was made.


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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 01-Apr-22 00:15:53
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BT Hub will NOT work on WAN Ping and never allow!
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 01-Apr-22 00:18:11
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Yes they do. And they always have on BT Business.


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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 01-Apr-22 00:19:16
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Not on BT Residential
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 01-Apr-22 00:21:05
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Where have I ever said it did?

NEVER

I corrected the original incorrect statement then you come along and make the same incorrect statement. CHECK YOUR FACTS.


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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 01-Apr-22 00:24:39
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In reply to a post by MHC:
Where have I ever said it did?

NEVER

I corrected the original incorrect statement then you come along and make the same incorrect statement. CHECK YOUR FACTS.


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Standard User fredfox
(experienced) Fri 01-Apr-22 21:17:54
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Wow.
T'is the season to grow up.

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Now -> Zen and BT

Fibre is here ! FTTP smile
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 01-Apr-22 21:18:55
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Care to explain your post?


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Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Sat 02-Apr-22 10:59:34
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Re: BT HUB2


[re: MHC] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MHC:
In reply to a post by BuckleZ:
Its blocked on the Smart Hubs - BT have always blocked WAN pings



Not true.

BT Business does NOT block them and never has.


BT Consumer/Residential has only started to block them in the past few years.


As soon as he posted that BT blocked it on all their Hubs I knew you would be along to correct him.

They aren't called BT consumer. They are simply called "BT".
BT Business is called BT Business.

The BT Hubs are called... BT Hubs/BT Smart Hubs.
The BT Business Hubs are called BT Business Hubs.

I've no idea why you get off correcting every single person who says this (I've seen you do it at least 3 or 4 times).

It's quite correct to say that BT block pings responses on all their Hubs.
BT Business do not.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 02-Apr-22 11:04:58
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In reply to a post by j0hn83:
In reply to a post by MHC:
In reply to a post by BuckleZ:
Its blocked on the Smart Hubs - BT have always blocked WAN pings



Not true.

BT Business does NOT block them and never has.


BT Consumer/Residential has only started to block them in the past few years.


As soon as he posted that BT blocked it on all their Hubs I knew you would be along to correct him.

They aren't called BT consumer. They are simply called "BT".
BT Business is called BT Business.

The BT Hubs are called... BT Hubs/BT Smart Hubs.
The BT Business Hubs are called BT Business Hubs.

I've no idea why you get off correcting every single person who says this (I've seen you do it at least 3 or 4 times).

It's quite correct to say that BT block pings responses on all their Hubs.
BT Business do not.


Again you have made the same mistake

You have said BT block pings on all their hubs and immediately contradicted yourself by stating that part of BT do not.


So, do BT block on all their hubs or not? The answer which you have given is NO.


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Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Sat 02-Apr-22 11:07:18
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"BT" do.
"BT Business" do not.

It wouldn't be so bad if you just chipped in and responded with the helpful info that BT Business Hubs respond to pings, but you reply with "wrong" or "incorrect".
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 02-Apr-22 11:18:12
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No,

saying BT do is WRONG. And that is what I pointed out as parts of BT do allow it.

I also stated that:

BT Business does NOT block them and never has.


BT Consumer/Residential has only started to block them in the past few years.


And that states which part of BT do and which do not.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 02-Apr-22 11:58:06
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In reply to a post by j0hn83:
They aren't called BT consumer. They are simply called "BT".
BT Business is called BT Business.
BT Retail were split into two separate businesses (BT Consumer and BT Business) less than 10 years ago, are you saying that is no longer the case and if so when did it change?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 02-Apr-22 12:02:43
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You're hitting your head against a brick wall, I understood what you was saying from your first post in this thread.
Standard User BuckleZ
(knowledge is power) Sat 02-Apr-22 12:55:03
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Let him have his little moment of glory.

Seems he feeds off it.

smile

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Edited by BuckleZ (Sat 02-Apr-22 12:55:19)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 02-Apr-22 13:00:48
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In reply to a post by dect:
BT Retail were split into two separate businesses (BT Consumer and BT Business) less than 10 years ago, are you saying that is no longer the case and if so when did it change?
I think the point is that all the hardware has just a simple "BT" logo on the front, and it takes looking at your bills / contract / paperwork to determine which division you have engaged with. That is the cause of this entire, pointless, thread. The company calls itself "BT" but sells from various divisions, and the two broadband offerings have different routers/firmware with different features including ICMP ECHO response ("ping").

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Edited by jchamier (Sat 02-Apr-22 13:02:41)

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 02-Apr-22 13:03:21
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BT don't allow to use WAN ping. END OFF
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 02-Apr-22 13:17:24
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BT don't allow to use WAN ping. END OFF




YES THEY DO.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.


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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 02-Apr-22 13:21:44
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No they don't!
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 02-Apr-22 13:25:23
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What does it take to get you to understand YOU ARE WRONG.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 02-Apr-22 14:26:15
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In reply to a post by jchamier:
I think the point is that all the hardware has just a simple "BT" logo on the front, and it takes looking at your bills / contract / paperwork to determine which division you have engaged with. That is the cause of this entire, pointless, thread. The company calls itself "BT" but sells from various divisions, and the two broadband offerings have different routers/firmware with different features including ICMP ECHO response ("ping").
No argument from me, the funny thing is people must realise they are in the wrong as soon as max agrees with them wink

Edited by deleted (Sat 02-Apr-22 14:28:25)

Standard User andew
(member) Sat 02-Apr-22 17:08:34
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Max, you are incorrect with your statement, The BT service doesnt stop WAN pings at all. Its only the BT residental routers that dont respond to ping on the WAN IP. Replacing the router with one that will respond to pings and you can setup services that rely on it eg broadband quality monitor

Andrew
Administrator seb
(founder) Sat 02-Apr-22 17:43:15
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[re: MHC] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MHC:
Again you have made the same mistake
You have said BT block pings on all their hubs and immediately contradicted yourself by stating that part of BT do not.
So, do BT block on all their hubs or not? The answer which you have given is NO.


Everyone here seems to understand the situation. Whilst technically it's possible to argue the minutiae I don't see the purpose.
Closing this thread, but let's adopt a positive supportive not 'telling off' attitude to other posters.

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