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Standard User techguy
(experienced) Sun 13-Aug-23 14:53:50
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Percentage of UK ISPs that have implemented static IPs?


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Random request I know but looking for the stat so I can use it to support something I'm working on at work regarding user authentication.

Anyone know?

Thanks in advance

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 13-Aug-23 23:33:54
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Re: Percentage of UK ISPs that have implemented static IPs?


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Not enough to attempt any sort of whitelisting, I would have thought. What if the staff change their ISPs or tether to their phone?

if you are looking to increase security by restricting access to your VPN/Apps/Azure by IP addresses then probably the furthest you can go is narrowing down to UK IP address range/location.

If you go beyond that, you'll probably get diminishing returns on security vs overhead.

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 14-Aug-23 08:38:09
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Re: Percentage of UK ISPs that have implemented static IPs?


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What do you mean by "implemented static IPs"? And do you mean consumer or business? Do you mean IPv4 or IPv6?

There are some ISPs that don't offer static IP at all (like BT retail). There are some that offer it as an optional paid extra. There are some that offer it for free but you have to request it. I am not sure there are many that provide it as the default (I think for Aquiss a static IPv4 is setup as default and you have to request IPv6 but not sure how many others there are).


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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 14-Aug-23 08:54:02
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In reply to a post by Pipexer:
the furthest you can go is narrowing down to UK IP address range/location.
Its getting tough on IPv4 with the amount of block trading going on. The best approach is a robust two factor authentication, (username/password & some external item) OR certificates that are installed when you're face-to-face with the machine that will be used remotely.

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Standard User sheephouse
(committed) Mon 14-Aug-23 10:00:20
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Re: Percentage of UK ISPs that have implemented static IPs?


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It may not be appropriate for your requirements, but there are always L2TP tunnels that can provide static IPs. They works with any ISP (including 4G), but will add a monthly cost.
I use A&A's L2TP which costs £10pm (for an individual - i.e. no VAT receipt) and provides a static IPv4 and a a block of IPv6.
Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 14-Aug-23 10:07:04
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Absolutely do not implement any authentication based on the user creating an allow-list of IP addresses. There are lots of services that will help you identify suspicious logins and you should use these instead.

Any sort of region lockout will be defeated easily with a VPN.

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Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 14-Aug-23 10:30:16
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Can you please tell Seb and the guys here as I regularly get locked out of TBB forums when I travel. Apparently I’ve been banned several times already this month. Luckily I can drop off the local hotel etc WiFi and connect via Telstra 4/5G which seems OK. Australia must be filled to the brim with evil, malevolent spammers and hackers like me!! Can’t trust us convicts 😂
Standard User ferretuk
(committed) Mon 14-Aug-23 10:59:45
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Re: Percentage of UK ISPs that have implemented static IPs?


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The ISP list on TB has a filter for static IP (It's in the advanced filter section)

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 14-Aug-23 14:23:00
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Re: Percentage of UK ISPs that have implemented static IPs?


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In reply to a post by techguy:
Percentage of UK ISPs that have implemented static IPs?

Well, smaller ISP's might be more likely to use static IPs than the larger ones, so the percentage of ISP's implementing static IPs might not be that low.

But when we consider the number of residential users with a static IP, it will be very low. The "big four" residential ISPs (BT, Sky, TalkTalk, Virgin) all use dynamic IP addresses.

Oliver.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 17-Aug-23 08:54:18
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I doubt there are any stats, I don't expect many ISPs will have them, well not for home use. Zzoomm will supply them for a cost, but it is not widely advertised.

Adrian

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