BT leaflet

I presume BT don't check where their leaflets are going. Had one yesterday saying that if I am out of contract with Virgin I could change to BT. We don't have Virgin here and even if we did at BT prices, no way would I. even their 50Mb/s is £32 a month. Sure, they give you 3 months free.

That’s a pointless post Adrian,

I, like everyone else, get lots of useless flyers through my door.

BT will just send them en masse to a distribution company. Those that send them spend exactly no time investigating each and every single address that their flyers will be delivered to.

I get flyers for pizza delivery which feature photos of meat toppings, how dare they, they must know I’m vegetarian 😱😱😱

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Anyone who reads these boards regularly is already well aware of your pathological dislike of BT and its subsidiary company’s.

Quite. It makes no financial sense for companies who use bulk mailings to not post them to every one. It’s why those living in bungalows get leaflets for stairlifts.

It’s why those living in bungalows get leaflets for stairlifts

😂😂😂

Marketing works.

We all remember the many months of twists and turns. The agonising toing and froing. The daily and sometimes thrice daily updates and the eventual sign up after you got a marketing letter from zzoomm.

Edited by FibreBubble (Sat 18-Nov-23 10:02:25)

We get VM leaflets despite being 5+ miles from anywhere that can get it.
I always found it odd that BT, or anyone else, never targeted our area when FTTP was installed under BDUK contract, it's taken couple of years before some households have realised they don't have to put up with the appalling FTTC speeds around here.

In reply to a post by spile:

It’s why those living in bungalows get leaflets for stairlifts.

Likely for wine cellars. One can get a little dizzy going around in circles clutching a bottle of vino
https://www.spiralcellars.co.uk/spiral-wine-cellars/

Cheers!

Wow Clive, your place is looking swanky !

I asked Mrs.Zarjaz, and she won’t let me dig the lounge up.

We get pizza leaflets for places that don't deliver to us

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

That’s a pointless post Adrian,

I, like everyone else, get lots of useless flyers through my door.

BT will just send them en masse to a distribution company. Those that send them spend exactly no time investigating each and every single address that their flyers will be delivered to.

I get flyers for pizza delivery which feature photos of meat toppings, how dare they, they must know I’m vegetarian 😱😱😱

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Anyone who reads these boards regularly is already well aware of your pathological dislike of BT and its subsidiary company’s.

I think it is a bit different to you being a vegi. for a start, you are on about one person here, you. I am on about a whole city. I would have thought BT or any other company for that matter would do their homework and realise that Virgin is not available here. Lazy marketing in my opinion., or maybe it is just cheaper that way.
This have nothing to do with my opinion of BT, i would have said the same with any company.

In reply to a post by FibreBubble:

Marketing works.

We all remember the many months of twists and turns. The agonising toing and froing. The daily and sometimes thrice daily updates and the eventual sign up after you got a marketing letter from zzoomm.

Because of price and the fact that the provider I was with, kept trying to push me to FTTP anyway. I am not saying marketing don't work, as it does, sometimes, but do a bit of research on the city you are marketing to. Sadly, that is the way it is these days, just lazy marketing. Not that I would go to BT at their prices, also the 24 month contract.

In reply to a post by burble:

We get VM leaflets despite being 5+ miles from anywhere that can get it.
I always found it odd that BT, or anyone else, never targeted our area when FTTP was installed under BDUK contract, it's taken couple of years before some households have realised they don't have to put up with the appalling FTTC speeds around here.

BT seems to have gone into over drive since FTTP was available and Zzoomm came, we may have had something through the post once in a blue moon, but now it seems like it is every month, they seem to be the only one, I had a Vodafone leaflet once not long after FTTP went live and a couple of sky ones. Zzoomm was the one, it was every couple of weeks until I got zzoomm, so they seem to be checking who have their service before sending out leaflets as I have not had one since I signed up. I did expect more marketing from different providers now Openreach FTTP is here.

In reply to a post by fredfox:

We get pizza leaflets for places that don't deliver to us

That is crazy. I get leaflets from takeaways and pizza places, but they just go into the bin right way.

you are on about one person here, you. I am on about a whole city.

You speak for a whole city ? 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

you are on about one person here, you. I am on about a whole city.

You speak for a whole city ? 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Sigh,
There is no way that a pizza place is going to know that you, are a vegi, when they send you a leaflet, but I am pretty sure that BT knows that this city don't have Virgin, if we did have Virgin I expect Openreach would have acted sooner to lay fibre.

They may well do. But the marketing company handed the flyer job do not , a bit like my example of pizzas and my vegetarian diet.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

But the marketing company handed the flyer job do not

Perhaps paying too cheap for the marketing co.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

They may well do. But the marketing company handed the flyer job do not , a bit like my example of pizzas and my vegetarian diet.

I thought it was all suppose to be targeting marketing these days? I realise that targeting one person with leaflets would be very difficult and expensive, but a city? Fair enough if it was a large city with different regions that where some may have Virgin and others don't.

Saying BT told someone down the road we had FTTP here, when we did not. So if their own call centres don't know what is here, then I was expecting a bit much for a leaflet to be accurate. then again, Talk Talk said that fibre was not available here when it was.
These companies really need to sort things out.

looking at this leaflet because I am nosy, and it says together we can reduce paper consumption, well don't send it to me in the first place . They don't know who I am, just my address and Dear Householder on it. A few years ago I put my address on a list that I did not want this stuff, and yet I still get it.

Anyway, it was just an observation,

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

A few years ago I put my address on a list that I did not want this stuff, and yet I still get it.

If delivered by Royal Mail you could try this page to see if your opt out is still active, you have to renew every 2 years.

Other companies also deliver leaflets however, and unless you can find whom they are, hard to opt out.

Edited by jchamier (Sun 19-Nov-23 13:17:36)

About 12 years ago we took a holiday with one of the travel companies. Having declined marketing/junk mail it was annoying to receive this guff every few months even though I told them to remove our details as required by GDPR. I wrote again by recorded delivery but the half-inch thick A4 brochures still kept coming.

One day being extra grumpy I sent a recorded delivery letter to the company secretary stating that we would apply a £25 disposal charge, and by sending such stuff they would be deemed to accept this charge. If necessary I would take court proceedings to collect the £25.

This did produce a reply. It seems that we had been entered twice on their listings having taken two holidays in previous years. These days, being older but no less grumpy, I drop such rubbish into the big blue bin provided by our local council.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

If delivered by Royal Mail you could try this page to see if your opt out is still active, you have to renew every 2 years.

Other companies also deliver leaflets however, and unless you can find whom they are, hard to opt out.

Oh right, I did not realise it had to be renewed every couple of years, I suppose that makes sense as I may have moved out and someone else may be living here. Royal Mail are the only ones that deliver addressed leaflets around here

In reply to a post by Malwaremike:

About 12 years ago we took a holiday with one of the travel companies. Having declined marketing/junk mail it was annoying to receive this guff every few months even though I told them to remove our details as required by GDPR. I wrote again by recorded delivery but the half-inch thick A4 brochures still kept coming.

One day being extra grumpy I sent a recorded delivery letter to the company secretary stating that we would apply a £25 disposal charge, and by sending such stuff they would be deemed to accept this charge. If necessary I would take court proceedings to collect the £25.

This did produce a reply. It seems that we had been entered twice on their listings having taken two holidays in previous years. These days, being older but no less grumpy, I drop such rubbish into the big blue bin provided by our local council.

Getting older normally makes people more grumpy
To be honest, I normally just chuck it into the rubbish as well, the original post was not meant to be taken so seriously, but it amused me that they don't seem to do their homework.
But I suppose that is normal these days.

It’s probably more expensive to work out who to target leaflets to then just distributing them generally.

So are you gonna sign up or not?

In reply to a post by spile:

Quite. It makes no financial sense for companies who use bulk mailings to not post them to every one. It’s why those living in bungalows get leaflets for stairlifts.

or conservatories when they live in a block of flats. And of course loft installation discounts.

In reply to a post by Alucidnation:

So are you gonna sign up or not?

Hell no. for a couple of reasons.
(1) I am already in a contract with a provider until next year
(2) I vowed not to go back to BT, over 14 years ago.

and maybe one more reason, now I am off the openreach network I want to try and stay off it. the network I am on, seems to be behaving itself now