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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 21-Aug-25 00:34:53
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Been looking at the PlusNet Terms and Conditions. It says extra construction costs will be passed on to the consumer. I have a 30 metre drive with duct installed for a FTTC line which was put in FOC due to incorrect cabling used in the 1980s.

How will OR bods or contractors get fibre into this duct to supply my house as it is all concreted over so no easy way without digging up the duct to get fibre in it or am I way off the mark? Will there be any extra costs for this?

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 21-Aug-25 07:10:29
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So the new duct fitted is accessible at the house end for sure, at the other end, I would hope hope the duct finishes in some existing footway box.

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Standard User Iniltous
(committed) Thu 21-Aug-25 10:41:14
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ECC’s are something of a black art , but in regular situations shouldn’t be a concern , if you were ‘lord of the manor’ and lived at the end of a half mile driveway , and it were necessary to construct a new duct route along that private driveway to get FTTP to the door , then expecting a contribution towards the excess costs is understandable…in most situations a few metres of excavation from the footpath to house wall isn’t going to attract ECC’s , what’s more in your case it sounds as though no extra work would be needed as a duct was provided previously.
The rules for ECC were originally designed when BT were the only provider , and had a universal service obligation, they basically couldn’t say No to ‘reasonable’ requests for service , but the limit of that reasonableness was 100 man hours of work ,which later became £3400 of cost , but that’s the telephony USO , when applied to to ‘broadband’ ,if 10 Mb download is available from any source , not just BT (BT rather than Openreach being the USO provider ) the USO is satisfied anyway , so unlike telephony a request for broadband can be denied, but that’s very unlikely.

Basically a few metres of construction is a cost of business, and not considered an excess cost

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 21-Aug-25 12:35:58
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
So the new duct fitted is accessible at the house end for sure, at the other end, I would hope hope the duct finishes in some existing footway box.


The duct is accessible at the house end but the drive end is a post with a removable cover.

Tim
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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 21-Aug-25 12:38:26
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Might need a footway box. Just like to do due dilligence. So I have ordered Plusnet engineer booked for 5th Sept.

Tim
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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 21-Aug-25 16:35:38
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The duct is accessible at the house end but the drive end is a post with a removable cover.

Ooooh, a jointing post, check you out with your niche aged telephony infrastructure.

Depends on how the JP is fed, is there a box close to it ?

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 21-Aug-25 16:44:05
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
The duct is accessible at the house end but the drive end is a post with a removable cover.

Ooooh, a jointing post, check you out with your niche aged telephony infrastructure.

Depends on how the JP is fed, is there a box close to it ?


About 5 metres away in the pavement is a chamber which was recently dug up by OR and when I looked in the hole there was duct with rope sticking out.

Tim
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Standard User PCJM40
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 21-Aug-25 16:54:07
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About 5 metres away in the pavement is a chamber which was recently dug up by OR and when I looked in the hole there was duct with rope sticking out.
What does the wholesale checker say for the property next to "Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:-"
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 21-Aug-25 16:58:10
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So that *might* be of some use … but I’d guess maybe not. The tails from a JP would often diverge from that point, so if the JP is made back into a UG radial DP, the new box to hold the new joint is usually very close to site of the JP.

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Standard User Iniltous
(committed) Thu 21-Aug-25 17:01:19
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https://ibb.co/TqPWtq1h

OP provided this on another thread , KCI2 , partial DIG
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