3D Telly is a big NO!! not fit for yet - DON'T WASTE MONEY

Not new news, but here goes. Please read on:

My Brother & Girlfriend were in one the big Sheds and took a look only at the 3D TVs. Ok...

The salesman stated that they have to be heated-up 30 minutes BEFORE you could watch the 3D movies. That's 1.

2. You HAVE-TO sit no more than 6ft away from the 3D telly.

3. Bro stood about 4metres away from It, and it never really worked. >Salesgoon says that7 that's what EVERYONE normally has it at. Oh no it isn't. No, it really should be six foot, no more. That's what his is set at. Of course it is.

The best clips were of animated things - real life 3D examples weren't worth the effort.

4. The flickering specs detect that you may have turned off-centre and as such, they stop flickering.

LET OTHERS PAY OVER THE ODDS FOR IMPERFECT TECH - THE EARLY ADOPTERS SUFFER THE MOST.

Just think of battle between VHS & BETAMAX - Don't rush in is my tip. If you can, and do - Enjoy fixing it for us.

is it me, or does anyone else think he has actually got some "buyers regret" and his "brother" is really him !!!!


or

it was his brother but why was guest_again's girlfriend with him......!!!

Lol Guest_Again always comes out with some funny [censored] like this.

Any chance you could write this post again in something approaching English so we can understand what you're gabbling on about?

I am skipping 3D and waiting for Holographic displays to become affordable.

My mum just bought a 46" Phillips 3D TV and is waiting for Sky to be installed.
I have a 32" Series 1 Samsung with Sky HD and the standard digital picture on the Phillips is better than my HD. The quality is amazing and I am very tempted however the size of my room would only allow for a 37" max so will wait until later this year before I consider buying one.

Hi Jimster - Not seen you for years. Could it not have been a bit longer?

I told it as it was to help others, as always so, no change there then.


*^{Guesty throws _Jimster back in with his feeble 'bait'.}

I'm waiting for 4-D then I can instantly go to any point in the film and eliminate the ads.

In reply to a post by gomezz:

I am skipping 3D and waiting for Holographic displays to become affordable.

Then you won't want the Sentient TV - it just knows what you want to watch AND it skips the ads.


It also knew that you'd try clicking on that blue text - It also knows that you couldn't afford it - It laughs at you.

First of all

you don't have to warm 3d mode up It is a simple flick of a button or two, a bit like pressing the Sport button on your car.


6ft max distance is a myth. Infact the further back you sit the greater the 3d effect . I was at a Sony roadshow a few weeks back. We were stood about 15 metres back (right on the edge of the 3d transmitters range) and the fish were then coming right out into the room and it looked like the people stood inside the booth were well amongst the fish !

What you want is a big TV of at least 40 -50 inches to get the best effect.

What you say about the glasses is correct, They do de-activate when you look away from the screen but surely you need both eyes to have a good view of the screen to get the best 3d effect.

The glasses do flicker a lot sometimes . A lot of this is caused by the different refresh rate of the lights in the home and retail stores. Sony glasses are very stable in most conditions with the Samsung ones showing the most flicker in my store.


The Panasonic 3d TV is fantastic.

What you have to remember is that it takes a high spec TV to be 3d ready and there not actually that expensive.

A lot of customers that come into work think you can only watch 3d on these TVs' Switch them into 2d mode and the image on these high end sets is often very very good even for SD stuff.

Chances are that its going to be on a lot more TV's soon whether you need it or not. Think about the whole HD ready thing a few years ago.


And before you think im biased 3d TV isn't for me at this time. The glasses really don't sit well on my low bridged nose !

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

First of all

you don't have to warm 3d mode up It is a simple flick of a button or two, a bit like pressing the Sport button on your car.


6ft max distance is a myth. Infact the further back you sit the greater the 3d effect . I was at a Sony roadshow a few weeks back. We were stood about 15 metres back (right on the edge of the 3d transmitters range) and the fish were then coming right out into the room and it looked like the people stood inside the booth were well amongst the fish !

What you want is a big TV of at least 40 -50 inches to get the best effect.

What you say about the glasses is correct, They do de-activate when you look away from the screen but surely you need both eyes to have a good view of the screen to get the best 3d effect.

The glasses do flicker a lot sometimes . A lot of this is caused by the different refresh rate of the lights in the home and retail stores. Sony glasses are very stable in most conditions with the Samsung ones showing the most flicker in my store.


The Panasonic 3d TV is fantastic.

What you have to remember is that it takes a high spec TV to be 3d ready and there not actually that expensive.

A lot of customers that come into work think you can only watch 3d on these TVs' Switch them into 2d mode and the image on these high end sets is often very very good even for SD stuff.

Chances are that its going to be on a lot more TV's soon whether you need it or not. Think about the whole HD ready thing a few years ago.


And before you think im biased 3d TV isn't for me at this time. The glasses really don't sit well on my low bridged nose !

I thought as much - you're a SALESMAN, low-bridged nose or not.

Thanks for the spiel though lol. You almost had me fooled too.

In reply to a post by mondeoman:

Any chance you could write this post again in something approaching English so we can understand what you're gabbling on about?

No problem - Could you not read your own typing?

I tilted your text a bit so that it would be easier for you to read with your head tilted on your pillow.

I don't care about anything else - I'm not wearing stupid glasses to watch TV. And what if I have a few friends round? I need enough glasses for all of them (and they're not cheap).

As far as I'm concerned it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist (but I can see that it's great news for the makers and retailers of TVs).

In reply to a post by 5km:

Lol Guest_Again always comes out with some funny [censored] like this.

My texts are never [un-censored] - I always keep a civil head on my shoulders. My fingers follow suit.

AGREED!

In reply to a post by AEP:

I have a few friends ... (and they're not cheap).

Real pals are never high maintenance.

Always best to wait.

In reply to a post by gomezz:

In reply to a post by AEP:

I have a few friends ... (and they're not cheap).

Real pals are never high maintenance.

They don't require puncture repair kits?

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In reply to a post by gomezz:

In reply to a post by AEP:

I have a few friends ... (and they're not cheap).

Real pals are never high maintenance.

They don't require puncture repair kits?

My Ex required one of them, I miss plastic pam

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In reply to a post by gomezz:

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Real pals are never high maintenance.

They don't require puncture repair kits?

My Ex required one of them, I miss plastic pam

Hi ^TRIaXoR, Is that you inflating your shoes there, or is that you just growing up?

lol, at 41 I sure hope I've grown up

Nope, me at 44 now still hasn't managed it. You're just a kid lol.

I'm going to wade in here and say I agree, it really is a solution looking for a problem.

Sky, Virgin and any other subscription based TV service is a rip off too.

As for blu-ray, I can see the benefits from a software distribution point of view but films wise it just allows the studios to jack up the price by cramming in stuff you'll only watch once, bit like collector's edition DVDs.

Not too many 3D movies even out there atm - they have to start somewhere I s'pose.

Prices WILL drop, and the early adopters may not be too happy with the availability of <any> films just now, but let's see how far it can go for now. lol.

In reply to a post by techguy:

As for blu-ray, I can see the benefits from a software distribution point of view but films wise it just allows the studios to jack up the price by cramming in stuff you'll only watch once, bit like collector's edition DVDs.

Are you saying you don't think watching films in full HD instead of SD is a worthwhile advance?

lol

In reply to a post by _TRIaXOR_:

lol

That is my old age setting in, in full effect - Darned bboy generation pensioners...

Right Shizney, get your dirty little mitts off of my hover-board picture, alright?! And don't bother laughing at Michael J. Fox, he will be a hover-board GOD if they eventually get made, ok?
Pah, and I DON'T love him, I don't want to be him - I just watched a couple of his movies!! Ask your mother if dinners on yet - yeah, and leave the new Argos catalog listings page open at 'H', I want to double check for Hov.. HOOVERS, ok?

*Harumph, maybe next month.

I think some of those comments are un-founded and carry a degree of in-accuracy!

My personal opinion is I cannot see 3DTV catching on with glasses.

3DTV will only go big once they introduce lenticular lens so we can watch 3DTV without glasses.

Toshiba have a 20inch unit out in Japan. Be interesting to see what the next 18 months brings.

If I was buying a TV for the moment i'd go for a non-3D plasma. Cheep Cheeful, wait for a more viable 3DTV solution.

In reply to a post by gomezz:

I am skipping 3D and waiting for Holographic displays to become affordable.

When is that then? 2050

Plasma? That is a definite NO here. They need re-charging with plasma every once and a while.

Before you say it - yes, I HAVE seen one need it. And yes, it WAS plasma that was req.

Probably. Nearly. Perhaps. No matter anyway.

[/disingenuous OFF].

You don't have to recharge a plasma, lol

In reference to www.plasma-clearance.co.uk:

Do you have to "re-gas" Plasma TV screens?

This is one of the most common, and the most wrong myths about Plasma TVs. All plasma screens are completely, permanently sealed when manufactured. Each individual pixel in a plasma panel is sealed, and therefore cannot, and does not ever require any refilling, or recharging.

Next time some salesperson tells you about "re-filling" the gas in a plasma TV, ask them how long it takes to manually insert three different types of gas into every single pixel in the screen, and then slap him.

In reference to www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/:

There is no recharging process. There is no gas that needs to be pumped back into the display. There is no way to �re-gas� a plasma monitor anyway, since the plasma display element is a fixed pixel device with each pixel etched into the glass substrate. So called �ribs� within the glass substrate envelope further separate this cell. Further to discourage any potential �re-gasser� are black striping and more ribbing separating each of the three phosphor colors of red, green, blue. Finally, there is a rear glass substrate protective layer behind all of this technology.

In reply to a post by _TRIaXOR_:

You don't have to recharge a plasma, lol

In reference to www.plasma-clearance.co.uk:

Do you have to "re-gas" Plasma TV screens?

This is one of the most common, and the most wrong myths about Plasma TVs. All plasma screens are completely, permanently sealed when manufactured. Each individual pixel in a plasma panel is sealed, and therefore cannot, and does not ever require any refilling, or recharging.

Next time some salesperson tells you about "re-filling" the gas in a plasma TV, ask them how long it takes to manually insert three different types of gas into every single pixel in the screen, and then slap him.

In reference to www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/:

There is no recharging process. There is no gas that needs to be pumped back into the display. There is no way to �re-gas� a plasma monitor anyway, since the plasma display element is a fixed pixel device with each pixel etched into the glass substrate. So called �ribs� within the glass substrate envelope further separate this cell. Further to discourage any potential �re-gasser� are black striping and more ribbing separating each of the three phosphor colors of red, green, blue. Finally, there is a rear glass substrate protective layer behind all of this technology.

Excuuuuuse ME!!

Ta for allegedly correcting that - Didn't see it on that first web page, OR the second site - but I did notice that you could BUY plasmas from the two sites. lol.

IF it's true, and I don't doubt you... much, then I just feel sorry for the people that HAVE BEEN charged for the phoney re-charging. Don't know what to believe on that - but I stick to what I KNOW, and buy LCD every time.
Yes, you know where you are only having to recharge those liquid crystals once a YEAR. So ner ner ne-ner ner! Hah, think I'M silly. I IMPORT the south afrkaaan crystals only because it's saving the orphans who mine it! Have you no heart?

LOL. Joking only. Please don't believe that nonsense. No, it the south AMERICAN crystal mines, and it's liquid from the sweat of those poor GREEK orphans that were snatched from innocent Bratislavian aur pairs working in Iceland! Are you even aware what they get an hour? That Brasilian Iceland is the worst, apparently!

*Steven goes home after talking severe nonsense here...

You have a very active imagination guesty...

But, I tend to stick to LCDs as well, mainly because plasmas are way too bulky for what I want these days - so I have an LED backlit LCD that works just fine (got a brilliant deal by getting £10 back for every goal that England scored at the world cup - what a deal, who could have known how useless they would be - except perhaps everyone!).

And, as far as 3D goes I don't even watch it in the cinema - an hour with those glasses on and I have a splitting headache - no point watching 3D with your eyes closed. And really can't be bothered with it on a small TV - waste of money to me and not something I am going to be buying into in the next decade.

Thanks. I like to think. Only sometimes though.

The 3D is not one for me either, not for a good while anyway. The 3D glasses don't bother me, but think of it like the [not-so] amazing HD - They sold sooo many tellys based on that, and continue` to do so. It's now the 'default'. Yes?
Now think of the early adopters with their HD players. Yeah, but it's not as good [or expensive] as Blue-ray players - I still only have 7 BD disks, and don't intend increasing that amount. Got plenty of DVDs, and they play in my room. My living room has the PC with Blu-ray & a Freeview PCIe card etc all viewed on a 24" LCD monitor.

I wouldn't mind an internet telly for my room, but it's not essential. Use the MBP through there, and loving it. Look forward to having a look at the iTunes Mac store soon.
I'm enjoying the Steam games on it. It just gets nicer and nicer. Even set it for higher graphics performance. The graphics in the games a superb, but they [Apple] should just raise the performance of MY MacBook Pro - I mean, I should just upgrade to an i7 MBP (or ANY of the others), but never mind. Uncle Steve will understand, and even just supply a free upgrade.

Oh, I see what you mean about the imagination..

imo the big con with current 3d tv is that in a year or two they will release tv's that dont require shutter glasses,on a large scale toshiba already launched one in japan but it has a pretty horrific viewing angle, is really small and expensive.

i have used nvidia's 3dvision system for a short time which is the same as the current tv's use and it was very good for playing f12010 on 3 monitors

My PC is 3D ready - I've got the 3D PowerDVD, but not got the glasses. My 24" LG only goes up to 75khz - too low for 3D but I'm not rushing out yet.

Not got a 3D player, or is that just a BD? No matter. Fine with what's here at the moment.

On saying that... heheheh.

powerdvd can convert to Anaglyph i believe. i quite like blu-ray i probably have 100+ disc already and thats not even counting 20 disc boxsets like bsg as separate disc

Edited by deleted (Sat 01-Jan-11 01:35:01)

I don't know what anaglyph means - I could look it up but it doesn't exist here, so...

Got enough DVDs - and with a higher refresh rate monitor, it would feign a 3D movie. I'd have to see a larger monitor before I'd even consider anything.

Anaglyph Images

In reply to a post by commandergc:

Anaglyph Images

Thanks very much for that - you need the old Red / Blue glasses,fpr them though. Tsk..

Lucky I have a couple of sets spare. They were from the cinema. Got a couple of pairs of the digital cinema glasses too.

I might keep the 3D glasses on for a while longer!!

Gawd bless the interweb. - It COULD tempt me for the good 3D - but not yet....