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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 29-May-12 12:15:02
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After years of good service my old pc (almost 8 years old) has finally packed up. I have just had a look on dell's website and have come up with this one @ £328.99 including delivery.

Inspiron Desktop 620 BTS Order
Processor:
Intel® Pentium® G620 Processor (2.60GHz, 3MB)
Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit
1 Yr Collect & Return Hardware Support
McAfee® SecurityCenter 15 Month Subscription
Inspiron Desktop 620 Resource DVD (Diagnostic & Drivers)
4096MB Dual Channel DDR3 [2x2048] Memory
Integrated 5.1 High Definition Audio
Dell Wireless 1502 (802.11n) WLAN Mini-Card
Integrated 8-in-1 Media Card Reader
1TB Serial ATA (7200RPM)
16X DVD+/- RW Optical Drive (DVD & CD read and write)
Keyboard : UK/Irish (QWERTY) Dell KB 113 USB Entry Black Kit
Dell MS111 USB Wired Optical Mouse (Kit)

However I have also just seen this on ebuyer

http://www.ebuyer.com/342318-medion-desktop-pc-pc8274

Which of the two is better? I just need it for my work - word docs, spreadsheets etc

Thank you.
Standard User blackmesa8
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 29-May-12 12:34:23
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Hi.
The Ebuyer one has a slightly faster processor but the Dell one has a bigger harddrive which always comes in handy. I would say due to Dell's quite good reputation for building good quality pc's and there good support to go with the Dell.
The Dell also has a wireless lan card which might come in handy if you want to put it somewhere thats quite far from your router.
One thing to note with the Dell is "McAfee® SecurityCenter 15 Month Subscription"
I really don't like Mcafee and would recommend uninstalling that and using something like Avast Instead.
But thats just my personal opinion and upto you.

Blackmesa8
Standard User mixt
(experienced) Tue 29-May-12 12:56:04
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While my second last PC was Dell (bought over 5 years ago now), and that turned out to be a very reliable desktop, my recent purchase (2 years ago now) has not been such a good experience.

One would normally expect that Dell test PCs before shipping them, just to make sure there aren't any oddities occurring, like random freeze ups / hardware conflicts etc. Well, it seems with my recent purchase, this wasn't done. Within days of running it, it kept crashing with screen corruption and complete system freezes (num-lock unresponsive, off/on was the only fix). I could have followed the issue up with them, but put up with the problem until they released subsequent BIOS firmware upgrades, both for the board and the graphics card, a few months later. Now, running on the latest firmwares, it is much more stable, but does still occasionally have its moments of doing "weird stuff".

So I have to advise, that on my most recent Dell purchase, they haven't impressed me much at all, and actually, there are probably other smaller PC outlets who provide cheaper and more stable pre-built PC solutions than Dell.

Always best to shop around.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(experienced) Tue 29-May-12 13:26:43
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MVC10 - gives you 10% off everything at hp.co.uk

Also at your price range I would be looking for ATLEAST an i3 processor and not buy a standard dual core
Standard User ukhardy07
(experienced) Tue 29-May-12 13:38:31
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http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-620/pd?oc=d006209&...

That processor is quite good if you can stretch to it.

& if you are happy to install your own OS http://www.ebuyer.com/338525-zoostorm-business-deskt...

Edited by ukhardy07 (Tue 29-May-12 13:39:44)

Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 29-May-12 14:53:06
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Unless someone thinks there is a better pc from elsewhere I think I shall shall stretch my budget and get the dell recommended by ukhardy07.

Thanks
Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Tue 29-May-12 15:26:50
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The only problem I had with Dells (and I had quite a few in the past) is that they always used bespoke components for some parts (such as the power supply). When the power supply blew in one I had a choice of getting a Dell one for about £70 or buying a £30 3rd party and drilling the case to fit it - I ended up buying the cheap one and drilling.

If they still use parts that can only be bought from Dell then it can make system repairs expensive down the line.
Standard User Kiggs
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 29-May-12 16:15:34
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I still have a Dell Dimension 4600 running Windows 7 after eight years of word processing and Internet surfing. I've only bothered to upgrade the RAM to 2GB and the GPU to some dodgy £25 job.

Would agree with ukhardy07, go for at least an i3.

Edited by Kiggs (Tue 29-May-12 16:18:20)

Standard User Bapteeed
(learned) Tue 29-May-12 16:38:50
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http://www.ebuyer.com/338525-zoostorm-business-deskt...
this is much better value than the dell
8 gig ram compared to 4 on the dell
1tb hd compared to 500 gig on the dell

also ebuyer support is excellent
Standard User imbsuk
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 29-May-12 17:02:14
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No interest in USB 3? might come in handy.

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Tue 29-May-12 19:58:17
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Apart from the PSUs which were to a specific design, what other components are bespoke? And it is not something I would worry about.

Yes the cases might be as will some mounting hardware but that happens with EVERY manufacturer.


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Standard User MHC
(legend) Tue 29-May-12 20:03:25
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It might be relatively expensive, but consider going to te three year at home repair/support service. As with all PCs year 1 will be covered but it will be early life failures that will occur - downstream in year 3 something may fail and are you competent to resolve it?

I have just come out from a 5 year warranty on a Dell Laptop and 4 year on Desktop. A few pixels were black on te laptop screen - sorted without question. On the desktop - the graphics cars was being problematic after nearly 4 years and it was changed/upgraded, again without question.


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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Wed 30-May-12 08:58:41
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Thanks for all the help. Think shall go with the the dell.
Standard User greenglide
(member) Wed 30-May-12 09:30:59
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In reply to a post by MHC:
Apart from the PSUs which were to a specific design, what other components are bespoke? And it is not something I would worry about.

Yes the cases might be as will some mounting hardware but that happens with EVERY manufacturer.


The worst one is proprietary motherboard shocked

Presumably graphics will be onboard so if there is limited space for a replacement graphics card repairs / upgrades could be expensive.

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Wed 30-May-12 09:41:52
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In reply to a post by greenglide:
In reply to a post by MHC:
Apart from the PSUs which were to a specific design, what other components are bespoke? And it is not something I would worry about.

Yes the cases might be as will some mounting hardware but that happens with EVERY manufacturer.


The worst one is proprietary motherboard shocked

Presumably graphics will be onboard so if there is limited space for a replacement graphics card repairs / upgrades could be expensive.


So, HP, Samsung, Toshiba, Panasonic, &c &c &c don't use proprietary motherboards?

And the graphics are NOT on board unless you opt for the very basic level.


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Standard User JPL
(member) Wed 30-May-12 09:59:25
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Two years ago I built two PCs for others.

1. Dell.
Notionally, the only task was to install Office. Actually the principal task was to remove the crapware and fix the networking after autorunning Dell s/w had stopped it from working.

2. Bare bones system
It came without a DVD drive, and so that had to be installed. It was then possible to install Windows XP and Office.

It took less than half the time to get the bare bones system up and running. Yes, that's right, it takes more time to remove the crapware from a Dell PC than to install Windows. Appalling. Don't ever buy a Dell PC.
Standard User MHC
(legend) Wed 30-May-12 10:03:22
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What "crapware" ...

My Dells come with Windows, Office (if requested), Internet Explorer and McAfee. And NOTHING else.


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Standard User JPL
(member) Thu 31-May-12 09:35:37
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I'm afraid I don't remember all the details, but would classify as such any software other than Windows. Both PCs were purchased by a charity based in Surrey. The most irritating piece of software was a Dell networking program that ran automatically at every system boot and changed a perfectly working network connection into one in which no connection could be made to either local PCs or the internet. You may like McAfee, but for a user with a licence for a different product it is just crapware that has to be uninstalled before the required product can be installed.
Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 31-May-12 09:40:33
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Order it without McAfee ... yes it is supplied free but can be specified without with no change in cost.

I did it with the last laptop ordered. Dell sales can be very flexible and accommodating to give the customer what they want.


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Standard User JPL
(member) Fri 01-Jun-12 10:27:40
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I am glad to hear it is now possible to order a PC without McAfee "pre-installed" - I was told by the person who ordered the PC that no such option was available then. Does Dell still install various Dell branded Windows "extensions", or has that practice stopped since Windows 7 came out?

P.S. I am not trying to get at Dell, (and am very pleased with my new Dell monitor), just reporting a specific experience.
Standard User MHC
(legend) Fri 01-Jun-12 10:35:26
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The only extensions that I see are connected with Dell Support and system set up through their Quick Set add-on.

As for McAfee, at times Dell has supplied other AV - they re doing it more as a reminder that people need some AV and if you ask for it to be removed, it is an acknowledgement that you know it was offered.


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