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Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Fri 01-Jun-12 18:30:32
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I'm looking to buy two new laptops with a budget of £700. Don't need anything mental, but want programs to open faster. I am running XP on my old desktop at the moment and it's like pulling teeth at times.

I have been told that processor speed is not desperately important in that respect and that Windows 7 will make a huge improvement. Is that true?

With that in mind, I have been perusing these.

Any recommendations/advice? The budget is pretty much fixed and these specs looked reasonable. The processor capability is the unknown quantity for me.

Thanks.
Standard User Guest_Again
(legend) Fri 01-Jun-12 18:41:40
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Looks ok but 1 thing to avoid. DON'T USE McAfee Security or Norton! madtongue Grrrr!!

Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Fri 01-Jun-12 19:16:08
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Don't worry, I won't!

Remember Norton 360 (or some other such nonsense name) virtually taking over my old laptop. Completely bogged it down. I stick to MS Security Essentials now. Though somebody will probably tell me it's not good enough, it doesn't give me any aggro whatsoever and nobody from Beijing has put their Christmas shopping on my tab so far! wink

So you think the processor is reasonable? It's only for browsing/streaming and paperwork really, Word etc.


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Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Fri 01-Jun-12 21:05:06
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This has a 3 year warranty include from John Lewis for £499.

Good deal??

Sony Vaio EH3N1E/B Laptop, Intel Core i5, 2.3GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB, 15.6", Black
Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 01-Jun-12 21:12:26
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Looks ok but 1 thing to avoid. DON'T USE McAfee Security or Norton! madtongue Grrrr!!

This is some of the best advice one could ever fit into one sentence.

Zen 8000 Pro
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Sat 02-Jun-12 12:15:52
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This has a 3 year warranty include from John Lewis for £499.

Good deal??

Sony Vaio EH3N1E/B Laptop, Intel Core i5, 2.3GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB, 15.6", Black
No. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-G570-15-6-inch-Laptop...


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Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Sat 02-Jun-12 12:22:51
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It looks like exactly the same casing etc. but the Sony is an i5 with a 3 year warranty?
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Sat 02-Jun-12 12:31:59
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Yeah, I think they all tend to be made by the same chinese factory. I guess the warranty accounts for most of the price difference. And you can pop down to JL and buy it now.

I wouldn't personally go for a Sony, I tend to stick to HP, Dell and Lenovo (was IBM). Although saying that, I've had a lot of Acers and currently have a Samsung N150 when travelling. I've never used a warranty myself.

This is typed on a HP though.


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Standard User ukhardy07
(experienced) Sat 02-Jun-12 13:54:41
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http://h40059.www4.hp.com/uk/homelaptops/product.php...
At checkout enter MVC10 which brings the price down to £350
& also purchase via quidco cashback... http://www.quidco.com/hewlett-packard/?ac
That gets you a further £35 off each purchase

Cashback isn't paid for several months though. But the MVC10 code is instant.

2 year warranty, decent processor, good sound on the laptops, decent ram and memory..

I just bought one of these myself smile
Standard User ukhardy07
(experienced) Sat 02-Jun-12 14:05:16
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I'm very happy with norton on my laptop. It definitely uses less of a footprint that mcafee, kaspersky and many others.

It installs in around 15 seconds. Doesn't seem to slow my laptop down. I really cannot moan

Some of the older versions were bad but the newer nortons are great.
Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Sat 02-Jun-12 17:40:38
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I use to like HP and Compaqs, but the build quality seems to have lessensd(as with many mid range laptops) so I guess the Sony with the i5 is going to be the best value. Also, as you say, I can go and try before I buy.

Thanks for the advice.
Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Sun 03-Jun-12 14:04:19
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Went to John Lewis this morning, tried and ordered the Sony i5 and should be in possession tomorrow.

It is blisteringly quick in relation to what I am used to and seemingly far better built than any of the HP and Toshiba entry level i5 machines, which (due to the three year warranty offer) are actually more expensive than the Sony.

Thanks to everyone for their advice. smile
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Sun 03-Jun-12 14:07:45
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Sounds good, please let us know how you get on with it when it's up and running.


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Standard User ukhardy07
(experienced) Sun 03-Jun-12 14:24:01
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The sonys are really nice to use. A fam member has one of these.

I'd be interested in seeing if you ever get any random mouse lag as my sisters does for no obvious reason. If not I'll advise her to send it for a repair.

& for the price that's a fab spec. With the warranty it's a steal!
Standard User Deadbeat
(knowledge is power) Sun 03-Jun-12 15:06:45
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..... I'd be interested in seeing if you ever get any random mouse lag as my sisters does for no obvious reason....

Is it an Alps touchpad? These do seem to suffer such problems.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(experienced) Sun 03-Jun-12 15:09:48
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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
..... I'd be interested in seeing if you ever get any random mouse lag as my sisters does for no obvious reason....

Is it an Alps touchpad? These do seem to suffer such problems.


Yes it sure is. I updated the drivers but it still does it. I guess this laptops probably different as hers is a good 6 months old now. It looks the same though...

Any known fixes? She finds it really annoying & Sony say all laptops do it... (which is bull)
Standard User Deadbeat
(knowledge is power) Sun 03-Jun-12 17:15:16
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I have a set of drivers here that behave most of the time. I'll up them for you somewhere and PM you later.
In the meantime, try cleaning the touchpad with a little vinegar on a tissue and wipe clean with a dampish cloth. When it really plays up, trywashing your hands, thoroughly rinsing and drying them before using the touchpad.

Is Paint Shop Pro or any other Corel product that uses the Protexis Licencing system installed?
Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Sun 03-Jun-12 22:33:26
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I think all Sony products seem to be well built, but overpriced for their specifications. I would have been happy with an i3, but for me this deal proved too difficult to resist.

The touch pad felt really responsive, but I'll let you know if it gets laggy at all. That's part of the reason I went to John Lewis in the first place. Shouldn't be too much aggro if it plays up. Famous last words mind!
Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Tue 12-Jun-12 20:17:07
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The sonys are really nice to use. A fam member has one of these.

I'd be interested in seeing if you ever get any random mouse lag as my sisters does for no obvious reason. If not I'll advise her to send it for a repair.

& for the price that's a fab spec. With the warranty it's a steal!
Well, have been playing around with it for about a week now and have not had any lag issues with the pad as of yet. The mouse buttons feel a little "loose" though, for want of a better word. Not really an issue, but for that reason I will reserve judgement on the pad for a while.

One dissapointment is that it does not have an illuminated keyboard. I incorrectly assumed it had, as you can see the little LED (or so it appears) under each key. There is also a lot of bloatware, Sony this and Vaio that, but no more than my last HP.

All in all it's a really nice machine at a really good price for an i5 with the 3 year warranty. Not a machine worth making a song and dance about, but still, a nice machine.
Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Tue 12-Jun-12 20:41:59
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Still getting used to Windows 7 and digging around stuff. Found this in the "Windows Experience Index" gumf:
If your computer has a 64-bit central processing unit (CPU) and 4 gigabytes (GB) or less random access memory (RAM), then the Memory (RAM) subscore for your computer will have a maximum of 5.9.

This machine is 64bit, 4GB yet gets a Memory (RAM) subscore of 7.2 out of 7.9. Why the contradiction?

Edit: Just out of interest

Processor: Calculations per second 7.0

Memoery (RAM): Memory operations per second 7.2

Graphics: Desktop performance for Windows Aero 4.7

Gaming graphics: 3D business and gaming graphics performance 6.1

Primary hard disk: Disk data transfer rate 5.9

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Standard User greenglide
(member) Tue 12-Jun-12 21:57:43
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Bit pedestrian wink - on a year old Sony VPC-SB1C (with Sandybrige i7 quad core) I get


Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz 7.1

Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB 7.5
Graphics Mobile Intel(R) HD Graphics 6.3
Gaming graphics 1696 MB Total available graphics memory 6.3
Primary hard disk 5GB Free (63GB Total) 7.9


A solid state disc (SSD) makes it really fly big time!

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BE Unlimited - 21,000 Download 1,200 Upload ON THE LINE THAT SKY COULD ONLY PROVIDE 15,255 DOWN AND 800 UP ON!!!,
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Standard User flippery
(learned) Tue 12-Jun-12 22:29:02
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Bit pedestrian wink - on a year old Sony VPC-SB1C (with Sandybrige i7 quad core) I get


Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz 7.1

Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB 7.5
Graphics Mobile Intel(R) HD Graphics 6.3
Gaming graphics 1696 MB Total available graphics memory 6.3
Primary hard disk 5GB Free (63GB Total) 7.9


A solid state disc (SSD) makes it really fly big time!


Comparing apples and pears. Above spec £900, other unit £450
Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Tue 12-Jun-12 22:40:30
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Nice, but not using it for gaming or video editing, that sort of spec would be wasted on me. smile
Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Tue 12-Jun-12 22:41:38
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Any ideas on the apperent max score contradiction?
Standard User ukhardy07
(experienced) Tue 12-Jun-12 22:57:16
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Glad to hear the issue isn't on all of the machines. It definitely put me off getting one of these!
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