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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 01-Mar-15 14:58:08
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So certainly not worth paying the extra then, may as well stick with eh XMS. i am not planning to over clock either. I do not see the point, as you said, it makes little difference.

Looking at prices of other stuff now, but I found a couple of small problems.

Only 3 USB headers on board, all three is used, but only a small problem as I can take the back USB plate out, I have a 6 port USB card in anyway, I need USB for the H80i.

Second problem, but not a huge problem, only 5 sata ports, all 5 is in use.
So if I take the 250GB out and replace that with the second SSD, I should be ok, the 2TB drive will keep me going for a bit.
I got to think then if it is worth getting a SATA card or going for a new board.

I also remembered I want a new keyboard, i want a clicky one. My mate have a Corsair Vengence K65, but it is not cheap, but it feels great. the problem is it is too Gamey, i did look at a Cherry keyboard. I think I may miss the LED which I have got on my Logitech.

I going to over spend, I know I am. Oh well, what is the point in working if you can't have what you want. I saved up for months while working..
Be back there in July.

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Standard User rogerfp
(regular) Sun 01-Mar-15 17:38:14
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5 Sata ports in use, that's unusual, what's connected?
Even on a new mobo you never get much more than that.
I've got 6 on my mobo, SSD, storage hd, bluray reader/writer and a esata connection for a port on the case.
Never have enough USB 3.0 ports. I added a a front card reader that has an extra 2x USB 3.0 ports and a PCI-e card with another 2 at rear (you can get them with 4x) and a internal 14 pin connector. All need power of course.
I'm lucky that my monitor has a built in USB 3.0 hub with 4x ports.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 01-Mar-15 20:35:29
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Blue-ray writer, a 120GB SSD, a 2TB drive, a 500GB hybrid drive, that is partitioned for Linux and software that I do not want on the SSD. a 250GB drive, that is getting old and not really used that much, so that can go and be put in the old machine.

The case Esata is not connected, there is a Esata on the back of the machine.

i have two USB3 ports and that is it, I have ordered a front USB port bay from Coolermaster, but I have to connect it to the back ports, so I had to also order a intern to external connecter and the cables will go through the back of the case where cooling pipes would normally go through for customised water cooling. and to the ports on the back of the board. Not 100% ideal, but it will be fine.

I got two USB 3 drives, a 2TB Toshiba and a 1GB Seatgate, plus a USB3 memory stick.

The problem is my board is four years old, so USB 3 was only just coming about then, so no on board headers and it is a pretty good board and works well. I did have a look to see what is around, but not a lot int he old AMD camp at the moment. I like Asrock, but their boards either offer stuff I don't need or don't offer what I want.

The other problem is that AMD boards do not seem to be updated much, I suppose because AMD have been a bit slow on updating the CPUs.
The FX range is getting a bit old now, but they are still good value, AMD seems to going APU now, so is Intel to be honest,

the motherboard are a different thing, the Asrock 990FX extreame 9 looks a nice board, but yet it is getting on to be a couple of years old and still over £160.


I will update this machine and keep the board unless it goes belly up and then see what is around. The problem with me is I stick with what I know.
Asrock boards as I have used loads in different builds, from low end build, to slightly higher end and never had a problem,

AMD, because I have used AMD for years and they are always reliable.

Corsair as their products are good quality.



We will see how it goes, I have got some software that keeps crashing on this machine, I think my video card is a bit below what ti should be, so I am going to stick the software on my mates machine and see if it works on that and if it does I will send off for a new video card in the week.
I may go for a SAPPHIRE AMD R9 280

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 05-Mar-15 09:17:11
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I got the CPU and cooler yesterday, cooler being returned today, there is a small dent in the radiator, not going to risk it.

I also ordered a Sapphire R9 280 video card, that should come today.

I also been a very naughty andordered this £109 from Maplin of all places, cheaper than any where else.

Now my mouse is starting to play up, the scroll wheel keeps sticking, going to get some compressed air and give it a spray.
I do not want to buy a new mouse i like mine.

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Standard User rogerfp
(regular) Thu 05-Mar-15 13:15:54
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No I wouldn't accept a dent in a new rad either. You've paid for new and that's what you are entitled to, let alone any possible damaged caused when it got dented.
Sounds like your budget is going out the window.
Anyway, why not. Enjoy life.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 05-Mar-15 19:18:14
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In reply to a post by rogerfp:
No I wouldn't accept a dent in a new rad either. You've paid for new and that's what you are entitled to, let alone any possible damaged caused when it got dented.
Sounds like your budget is going out the window.
Anyway, why not. Enjoy life.


I have no idea if that dent would cause problems anyway. Video card today, that is installed, a nice R9 280, should do me ok for a few years.
Budget have gone, bean on toast for the next 6 months smile

Yes, one bean on a slice of toast smile

If it last for 5 years then it be fine and it should do. I will wait to see what AMD brings out next year motherboard wise before I think about updating the board.
Hopefully they will update the AM3+ chipset to cope with PCI-E 3

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Standard User philippercival
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 06-Mar-15 00:57:43
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I used to be very up to date on what was the latest and what went with what. Luckily my needs are relatively simple and I do not need the fastest possible machine, so I have adopted a new way of selecting. Decide my price, currently about £400 for a new box, then go and look round all the stores and base my judgement on 1) processor 2)memory and 3) hard disc size. 4) will it take my current TV card. Having bought it I sometimes add to the memory and probably fit a couple of 2Tb hard discs, often from the old machine.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 06-Mar-15 12:27:30
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That is a good way of doing it to be honest. i used to update every year, i think this is the longest I have gone without doing a full update.

I need a machine that can cope with video editing and video effects, i last updated about over 4 years back and it cost me £800, but that was everything, apart from the video card and SSD, I got them later on. it also did not include the 2TB drive.


I just spent £459 on this machine, ii just hope it is worth it and i have not finished yet. when i get back to work i want to get a 480SSd and another 8Gb of ram, maybe more.

i also want to get a new camcorder I really want to get into this video lark, i know it is late in life, but still.

i am not going to go mad with a camcorder, something like a JVC GY-HM70

but i got to do some more training with the video software, if it will stay stable.

I have a demo of hitfilm and it keeps crashing, i also got Adobe after effects, which is getting on now, but it will have to do and sony Vegas.

I know I did not really l need the new keyboard, but I like it and hopefully it will last, this old Logitech one I am using now have lasted and it was not expensive, but it is so big as it is really a games keyboard, with macro keys, which I do not use.
I thought I would with the video software, but after setting it up, I found it easier to use the normal shortcuts.

i have to get a larger spinny drive at some point, but no rush as I have loads of external disk space, or i will when I short it out.

I put the fans in the computer yesterday and it is a bit louder than normal, I do not think I can slow them down as they only got three pins.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 09-Mar-15 12:18:04
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Cooler going back to Amazon again, this time the y cables to go to the fan are not right, I tried for ages trying to plug them into the fans. I found a video on you tube to see how the hell it is done and realised that the moulding was not right. Instead of the pins being expose, they was still covered in plastic. I could have cut it, but why should I?

So it is going back.

I have the computer runningwith the new CPU using the stock cooler, it is ok, just a bit noisy.

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Standard User rogerfp
(regular) Tue 10-Mar-15 18:58:41
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Think you will find that the Y cable is supplied with plastic sleeves over the pins to protect them. These have to be removed to expose the pins so that the connectors from the fans can be fitted.
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