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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 30-Nov-19 07:17:52
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SSD Nvme drives


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I am stuck between two ordering 2 NVMe drives. Reading reviews of both one has seq read speed of 1700mb/s and the other has a speed of around 3000 mbps. Here are the two drives.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-SN500-High-Performance...

and

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CSSD-F480GBMP510-Fo...

Reading the reviews both seem as fast as my Gigabyte H310M S2H 2.0 (rev.1) will take but reading the specs the Corsair is the fastest and also has the longest endurance rating. Both have 5 year warranty, WD has Sandisk flash memory and Corsair has Toshiba flash memory.

I have had a Sandisk (30gb) SSD and it failed after a while, just couldnt find the disk but am not familiar with Toshiba stuff. The reviews say that some users have seen temperatures of 90 degrees and the drive throttles itself. These were old reviews from 2018 when the drive was first released and googling MP510 overheating throws up nothing. As they are both about the same price, capacity and warranty I am stuck on which one to order. Note the Corsair only has 4% bad reviews. Thoughts?

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Standard User baby_frogmella
(knowledge is power) Sat 30-Nov-19 08:04:48
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Go for a Samsung 970 Pro or Evo Plus. Not cheap but from experience, Samsung SSDs tend to be a lot more reliable than other (cheaper) makes & with high end performance. I have the 1TB Samsung 970 Pro NVMe SSD fitted in my Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th gen and it runs like a dream.

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Standard User busterboy
(committed) Sat 30-Nov-19 08:15:46
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Go for a Samsung 970 Pro or Evo Plus. Not cheap but from experience, Samsung SSDs tend to be a lot more reliable than other (cheaper) makes & with high end performance. I have the 1TB Samsung 970 Pro NVMe SSD fitted in my Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th gen and it runs like a dream.


Agree 100% with the Samsung 970 Evo, I have the earlier 960 and love it.

Fastest drive I have ever come across with a Windows 10 boot time of 5 seconds.

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 30-Nov-19 10:03:15
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We are talking another £100 more expensive. That is a fair amount of dosh. Any idea what the warranty is on the Samsung drives? Also some of the Amazon reviews mention overheating.

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Standard User busterboy
(committed) Sat 30-Nov-19 10:10:12
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We are talking another £100 more expensive. That is a fair amount of dosh. Any idea what the warranty is on the Samsung drives? Also some of the Amazon reviews mention overheating.


WHAT.

It's only £67:97 for the latest 250Gb 970 EVO Plus.

250Gb

and £94 for the 500Gb unit.

Link here.

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 30-Nov-19 10:27:32
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Ahh right, Ebuyer is my preferred supplier I was looking at the 1tb version at £145. I also see it is a 5 year warranty the same as the Corsair. So narrowing it down it is between the Samsung £94 and the Corsair £55.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 30-Nov-19 17:45:59
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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
Go for a Samsung 970 Pro or Evo Plus. Not cheap but from experience, Samsung SSDs tend to be a lot more reliable than other (cheaper) makes & with high end performance. I have the 1TB Samsung 970 Pro NVMe SSD fitted in my Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th gen and it runs like a dream.


i have got a old 120 Gb corsair force 3 drive that is around 8 years old more or less, It was used as my main drive for a couple of years and since then have been used as a scratch drive for video editing, still working well, I have also got a 250GB, corsair Neutron Sata drive that is around 6 years old and until a few months ago was used as my main drive, now used as a Linux drive. Still going strong. the latest drive is a Corsair MP510 NVMe drive, it is fast Windows boot up in seconds, Reliability I do not know as it is not that old, but if it works as well as the other two then I am not going to complain.

Reliability is pretty good these days for even the cheapest drives, but the technology that is being used is in theory more prone to wearing out quicker, but they are still going to last most users years.

Samsung is no better in reliability than any other, i have heard stories of Samsung going pop after a few months and other lasting for years, the same with Crucial and corsair.

I like Corsair, i have used their memory for years and SSD when they first came out at a a affordable price, that is not to say that I would not go for another make , Sabrent seems to be the new kid on the block and have good reviews. but again reliability is not really known, but like everything else, you can buy one and it is bad, buy another and it is good. Certainly in the old computer world.

if I was going to buy a new NVMe, i would look at Sabrent , they look pretty good.

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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Sun 01-Dec-19 02:36:26
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Fastest drive I have ever come across with a Windows 10 boot time of 5 seconds.


I have the Adata XPG SX8200 480GB

It's comparable in speed to the 970 Evo 500GB (slower in writes, but faster in sustained writes). Given that the main purpose was for gaming, the reads and occasional sustained (software/game installations and updates) writes were my priorities.

At the time of purchase, the Adata was about £100 compared to £130 for the 970. Prices have shifted since though, and to be honest I'd go for a 1TB or 2TB now. The 2TB Adata is half the price of the Samsung at present.

Similar boot speeds. Five seconds from end of post to desktop.

Edit: Link to a comparison (showing the more recent 'Pro' version vs the one I have, and also the 970 Evo) - https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8861/adata-sx8200-...

So I'd go for the one with the best warranty if the prices are within 20% of each other, or the one easily available from a regular supplier.

Edit 2: Price comparison of 2TB drives - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/vMMwrH,...

Edited by camieabz (Sun 01-Dec-19 06:56:27)

Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 01-Dec-19 02:39:42
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I have just discovered my board's M2 slot is Gen 2 x2 so max speed I would see would be 1.2Gb/s. I might be better off getting a cheaper WD blue drive which has lower speed but is much cheaper?

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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Sun 01-Dec-19 03:12:30
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Just use a 2.5" SATA drive in that case, short of having no space for one. Little performance diff from M.2 at SATA speed, and a proper 2.5" SATA drive, and far less installation hassle. 2.5" drives are cooler too (less hot, not more groovy wink ).

I prefer Crucial's MX500 range for £ per GB, and the perf is similar, but was less expensive than the Samsung counterpart. The WD Blue is not so fast in Benchmarks.

I have the 500GB MX500 as drive 2:

500GB comp: https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Crucial-MX500-...


But you may prefer the 1TB or 2TB

MX500 vs 860 Evo 1TB: https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Crucial-MX500-...

MX500 vs 860 Evo 2TB: https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Crucial-MX500-...

MX500 vs WD Blue 1TB: https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/WD-Blue-3D-1TB...

Price comp: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/h3tQzy,...


Given that you're forced to be at SATA speeds (any M.2 drive you bother will be SATA speed), I'd focus on write speeds, as it will be the slowest part of the storage. As far as I know, they tend to give larger capacities more cache, which will equate to faster writes. In that sense, if you're trying to squeeze every last drop of write speed, the Samsungs will be faster by 3-5% in writes.

If it's price alone, the WD is cheapest, the MX500 is mid, and the Samsung is most expensive. Frankly, you won't see a huge diff between the three most of the time (but WD is 10-15% slower than others in benchmarks), so look to warranty, availability from trusted vendors etc.

Edit again (!!): Comparison of WD / MX5 / 860 prices : https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/h3tQzy,...

Edited by camieabz (Sun 01-Dec-19 03:17:09)

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