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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 15-Dec-25 20:00:38
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Samsung are stopping production of SSDs to concentrate on DRAM and NVME for data centre use. Meanwhile Crucial has stopped selling to Consumers and is again going to concentrate on the data centre (Ai) market. Round about Jan - Feb 26.

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Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Mon 15-Dec-25 20:05:15
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Samsung’s consumer SSDs aren’t going anywhere. In an exclusive statement to us, a company spokesperson denied rumors that Samsung plans to phase out SATA SSD production.
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 15-Dec-25 20:08:07
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Interesting. smile Doesn't mention 2.5" SSDs and has pictures of NVME.

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Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Mon 15-Dec-25 20:22:25
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But it specifically mentions SATA disks. Forget the library pictures.
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 15-Dec-25 20:24:37
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Yes I spotted that. Was looking for replacements when my Crucial and Corsair SSDs run out of life.

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 16-Dec-25 10:05:37
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the move to HBM4E (from hbm3e) will occur in 2026, and that memory is basically used for ai, it has no consumer space at all. So it looks as some have fibbed a bit.

Supply will catch up with ai, and ai uptake is slow as the higher prices will affect them too.

That said new fabs will need to be produced, as every economy relies on dram, and high dram affects inflation it is self defeating to main insane pricing.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 18-Dec-25 12:25:56
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Who use Samsung anyway? I have never had a Samsung SSD, too expensive, the ones I have in my Mac hub is a Crucial P3 4TB and a Maxtor Sata 1TB, which is Seagate anyway. I did get an Integral for my Raspberry Pi NAS and it is working fine.

Not sure what to buy now if i wanted a SSD for speed, I expect it would be Seagate, which is strange really because I went off seagate

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 18-Dec-25 18:55:30
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Who use Samsung anyway?

I've used for years. The magician software (for Windows and Linux) is useful. I used Crucial for a while but as we read Micron are exiting the consumer world.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 18-Dec-25 18:56:21
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Samsung denies:

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/memory/samsung-will...

https://www.techspot.com/news/110613-samsung-denies-...

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 18-Dec-25 21:07:23
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Interesting. My Seagate HDD from April 2011 just died so am in the market. Seen a couple of refurbished Samsungs on Ebay worth a shot as dirt cheap?

Thing I have found with spinny disks, Seagates = catastrophic failure, this one totally dead. WD Green and Red = bad sectors after a number of years. Hitachi so far so good about the same age as the Seagate that failed.

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Edited by Banger (Thu 18-Dec-25 22:49:02)

Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 19-Dec-25 09:24:03
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Who use Samsung anyway?


the 840,850,860,870 sata ssds were considered thre best or one of the best.

Again with their nvme m.2 units, considered some of the best, pcie5 m.2 slots now have more or less everyone around the same.

Also samsung always had given you a chance to buy hbm based ssds or dram based ssds .........

But like with everything with samsung of late, they have blured the line between brands and confused many.
Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Fri 19-Dec-25 09:36:48
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Who use Samsung anyway?
Quite a lot of people: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Internal-Solid-S...
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 19-Dec-25 12:19:16
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No 2 in the UK.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-Computers-Acce...

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 19-Dec-25 16:04:35
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In reply to a post by zyborg47:
Who use Samsung anyway?


the 840,850,860,870 sata ssds were considered thre best or one of the best.

Again with their nvme m.2 units, considered some of the best, pcie5 m.2 slots now have more or less everyone around the same.

Also samsung always had given you a chance to buy hbm based ssds or dram based ssds .........

But like with everything with samsung of late, they have blured the line between brands and confused many.


My choice for my next NVME. My Corsair MP510 has served me well (Samsung NAND) I plan to go for Samsung next time but still plenty life in the Corsair (69%).

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 19-Dec-25 19:24:49
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My choice for my next NVME.
About 3 years ago I moved to a new PC that had NVMe, and had a look around... in the last 8 to 10 years I think all my SSDs but one had been Samsung. 820, 830, 840 series 2.5" SATA drives. Now on a 980 Pro NVMe ; zero complaints. (my first SSD was a 128gb OCZ in a core2duo machine).

That's only one person though, not really much data on reliability.

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Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Fri 19-Dec-25 20:35:08
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I’ve got three Samsung NVMe drives and a couple of their external SSDs. Blindingly fast performance and 100% reliability so far.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 20-Dec-25 00:39:12
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i've had

990 pro, adata 8200 (yes that ssd - is fab before they had to switch chips but didn't tell anyone) firecuda 510 and kingston kc3000.

all with dram

sata
850 and 860s

will do the no dram ones tomorrow.

And yes in some circumstances you can notice the difference even at sata level
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Sun 21-Dec-25 11:51:48
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Okay, get it, lots of people do use Samsung. LOL.
I have never had a Samsung drive, I liked Corsair and used them for years, drives and memory, Lexar for SD cards, normally, but Lexar is now Longsys, since Micron dumped them.

I have been lucky with storage to be honest, only had one drive go belly up on me completely and that was the Corsair Force 3, but it years old and was used as a temp file drive for a while, after the end of it OS days, so lots of reading and writing.

For storage, I still prefer mechanical drives, slow yes, but a lot cheaper.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 21-Dec-25 12:55:10
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For storage, I still prefer mechanical drives, slow yes, but a lot cheaper.
Tell Apple, they went SSD for all their products long before others. Have you tried macOS (or Windows 10 or 11) on a mechanical drive? Nobody has time for that anymore. Using SSD gets rid of the need to defragment, as the whole file system responds with the same latency.

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Standard User neo_wales
(committed) Sun 21-Dec-25 23:06:45
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I used Samsung a lot over the years HHD and SSD but for the last year or more I've been fitting Fanxiang M.2 and SSD with issues to date. Not badly priced either.

I've just fitted a 2TB to my grandsons xmas prezzie laptop...shussssh don't tell him.

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Mon 22-Dec-25 17:19:11
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Tell Apple, they went SSD for all their products long before others. Have you tried macOS (or Windows 10 or 11) on a mechanical drive? Nobody has time for that anymore. Using SSD gets rid of the need to defragment, as the whole file system responds with the same latency.


I did say storage, my main NAS have mechanical drives, 3.5 inch ones, no need for speed for a Nas, certainly on a 1Gbit network. I do have a SSd sata on the Raspberry Pi NAS I built, mainly for power efficiency, but I have also got an old 500Gb 2.5 inch spinny drive on there that came out of my brother's PVR, it stopped working in the PVR, so I got a new drive for him, but it works fine in the Pi NAS. Not going to use it for anything important, just video files to play back on the TV.
I should have got a spinny 2.5inch for my dock, it would have been cheaper.


I have tried macOS on a mechanical drive, granted it was on a old machine, it was okay, I have also tried Windows 11 on a mechanical drive, just for the fun of it, I even installed it via DVD, well Blu-ray, LOL. Once booted it was not too bad to be honest, when opening large apps it was a bit slow or loading large files

For the user there have been no need to defrag for years, I know it happens in the background, but we have not had to do it for years, was it Xp it vanished?


Cost wise, mechanical drives are cheaper, oh yeah, all my external drives are mechanical

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Mon 22-Dec-25 17:21:35
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Be careful with Fanxiang, I thought about one for my Pi Nas, but the reviews were not good, they also have no cache, so for a SSD are pretty slow.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New year to you and yours from this side of the border, just about on the English side of the border.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 23-Dec-25 16:41:13
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I did say storage, my main NAS have mechanical drives, 3.5 inch ones, no need for speed for a Nas, certainly on a 1Gbit network.
Many people don’t separate, and with laptops being a high percentage of home computing, plugging in external drives to laptops is frustrating when you’re sitting on a sofa. I have 256GB in my laptop, but friends have 1Tb or more.

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