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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 19-Oct-13 11:05:48
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Yes, I sort of got that impression, especially after some browsing around to get a feel for other opinions.

I tried Adrian's suggestion of Mint Debian as the 64-bit version was supposed to be OK in 1GB, it seemed to install OK but some applications (Firefox and Thunderbird at least) wouldn't start, wouldn't re-install and Opera wouldn't install either... these days, a computer without a browser is a doorstop crazy

It didn't seem to like the network card either- when I tried to set a static IP it dropped the connection and refused to pick it up again, some error about "unmanaged device" iirc mad

It also reminded me of Windows somehow, so back to Ubuntu, 64-bit this time. It's not overly happy in 1GB, but it (99%) recognises the hardware and at least everything works (so far), even if rather slowly.

I'm not that keen on it though... I'm beginning to think that I might be best waiting until the credit card stops trembling after the last couple of months (don't ask tongue) and get a more recent machine. Then I can try out the various flavours (including xubuntu, thanks for the suggestion) without wondering whether it's the OS or the hardware that's getting in the way.

And if I decide Linux isn't for me after all, I'll see if I can turn it into a Hackintosh smile


Once you get the distro and look you want, you will love Linux. I am sorry that the Debian version of mint did not work out for you, you could try the ubuntu based one, it should work with all the hardware that Ubuntu works with.
The thing people have to realise with Linux is that it is not supported by the big corporations, so you are not going to get your photoshop, premier or quark, but there is some good software out there Libre office and Kingsoft now for office suites. Scribus is a great for DTP. Browser wise, a good choice, firefox, opera and chrome, plus some others. Gimp is really good, in fact the friend that owns the Macs is a graphic designer and uses gimp more so than photoshop these days.


I hope you keep with linux, I am in the process of going from windows to Linux, still have to use windows because of video editing.

Adrian

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Standard User billford
(elder) Tue 22-Oct-13 07:14:32
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Thanks for all the help folks, it's much appreciated.

For various reasons I'm not going to do anything definite until the New Year, in the meantime I've been given plenty of ideas to follow up smile

Bill
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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 22-Oct-13 23:01:18
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Why not give Windows 8.1 a go? laugh

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Standard User billford
(elder) Tue 22-Oct-13 23:03:30
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Why not give Windows 8.1 a go? laugh
Because I prefer to retain what little bit of sanity I have left tongue

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 22-Oct-13 23:30:01
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Windows 8.1 is the most fluent and intuitive OS going. If you are a competent IT user (which you are) there are absolutely tons and tons of features, short cuts, etc, etc to enable you to do almost any task on your PC involving the GUI in the fastest way. It's built for keyboard, mouse, and touch.

Admittedly, this takes a little bit of learning, but it rewards itself many times over.

Give it a go anyway, even if just for a bit of fun before you install a Linux flavour.

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Standard User billford
(elder) Wed 23-Oct-13 07:06:26
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Give it a go anyway, even if just for a bit of fun before you install a Linux flavour.
I'll give it some consideration... if you can point me to a legal source that costs the same as a Linux or Mavericks installation...

Bill
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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 23-Oct-13 09:10:43
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Windows 8.1 is the most fluent and intuitive OS going. If you are a competent IT user (which you are) there are absolutely tons and tons of features, short cuts, etc, etc to enable you to do almost any task on your PC involving the GUI in the fastest way. It's built for keyboard, mouse, and touch.

Admittedly, this takes a little bit of learning, but it rewards itself many times over.

Give it a go anyway, even if just for a bit of fun before you install a Linux flavour.


It is built for touch, but you can use the keyboard and mouse, the main updates for 8.1 is the modern UI, the only reason Ms stuck a start button is because they are a little worried and all they done is stuck a start button on, it still links to the horrid Ui.

Windows 8.1 still got the dreaded charms bars flying out at you when ever you get too close to the corners. the other problem with windows 8.1 is the integration of skydrive. it is horrid, to use skydrive on 8.1, you got to have your computer connected to a Microsoft account all the time. At least with windows 8, you could use a little app to do it and stay in local account. Not that I use sky drive. But I have updated a couple of machines over the last 3 days and both machine owners do not like what MS have done with Sky drive integration and they use sky drive a lot.

The other problem is 8.1 seems to not be as speedy as windows 8, somehow MS have slowed it down, in booting up and general usage.

I think I will keep my windows as version 8.

Adrian

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 23-Oct-13 12:38:21
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Sorry I can't do that... but personally I don't mind paying for something as long as its good value.

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Standard User billford
(elder) Wed 23-Oct-13 12:49:57
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Neither do I, but I'm not paying full price to evaluate something which might get wiped after a week or so.

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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 23-Oct-13 14:17:34
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You can install a 30 day trial or something... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/evalcenter/hh6991...

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