Thanks for that Sarah

You live and learn. I didn't know about the "-1" switch. But, from the man page, "This is the default when output is not to a terminal."

Also interesting to see that some switches override each other, with only the last being effective - e.g. "ls -l -1"might not produce what you initially expected.

When I got the listing, a lot of the lines started with:

-rw-r--r--@ 1 billford...

What's the '@' ?

From the man page:

"If the file or directory has extended attributes, the permissions field printed by the -l
option is followed by a '@' character. Otherwise, if the file or directory has extended security
information, the permissions field printed by the -l option is followed by a '+' character."

Ta

Is there any way to grab the entire contents of a Finder panel even though some of it is off screen?
mervt

I assume you mean as a graphic?

Command-Shift-4, move the "camera" to the window, then Spacebar will do that.

It'll grap the entire window, but you can crop it to just the bit you want with Preview.

I have tried this and all I can get is what's on the screen, not the entire contents of the window.
have also tried using 'grab'. shift-command-w
I must be dumb or have a glitch.
mervt

Odd, I've just tried it again here and it worked even with part of the window off-screen and part behind another program... I'm stuck

Just to make sure I'm not completely senile, do I position the camera anywhere in the required window?
Thanks for the help
mervt