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Moderator billford
(moderator) Thu 28-Apr-11 10:16:20
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iPhone shock horror !!!

Many people do not seem to realise that if you have an iPhone on contract, EVERY TIME you make a phone call, send a text, access the internet etc, data is sent to Apple which gives them your credit card or bank account details or possibly, horror of horrors, your personal address!!!

AND YOU CANNOT BLOCK THIS DATA!!!

Woe is us, the end of the world is nigh...

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Bill

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Standard User ian_c
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 28-Apr-11 10:23:17
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I believe it is also sends your mother's maiden name and your inside leg measurement.

Moderator billford
(moderator) Thu 28-Apr-11 10:29:15
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In reply to a post by ian_c:
and your inside leg measurement.
Does it send the location data to determine whether it's for your left or right leg?

And if so, is it encrypted for security?

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Standard User ian_c
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 28-Apr-11 10:32:33
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I believe security relies on the NSAthleticSupport class, using the Box Protocol.

Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 28-Apr-11 11:07:29
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Why/How on earth would your credit card or bank account details be stored within your phone?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 19 Meg Tweaked / 16 Meg Untweaked LLU BB
Moderator billford
(moderator) Thu 28-Apr-11 11:24:09
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Why/How on earth would your credit card or bank account details be stored within your phone?
I didn't say they were.

I said: "...data is sent to Apple which gives them..."

Which it is.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 28-Apr-11 11:37:06
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Botboy you've really stirred up a fanboi's nest here. I hope you're pleased with yourself!
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 28-Apr-11 12:06:49
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Is that data unencrypted and accessible to third parties? If not I see no cause for concern.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 28-Apr-11 12:24:50
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In reply to a post by billford:
I said: "...data is sent to Apple which gives them..."
OK, then where does it get it from? If it's from your personal data held for billing purposes with your mobile service provider, then isn't that a breach of DPA?

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Moderator billford
(moderator) Thu 28-Apr-11 12:27:48
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Whooosh.... crazy

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Standard User ian_c
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 28-Apr-11 12:28:27
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You bad bad boy.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 03-May-11 23:24:25
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Whenever you're on the Internet you are traceable as you have a unique number assigned to you called an eye pea address or something smile

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Moderator billford
(moderator) Tue 03-May-11 23:33:02
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Shh, don't tell the trolls or they'll be complaining it's sent (in unencrypted format shocked) to everybody you connect to tongue

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 03-May-11 23:55:32
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I thought of encrypting my house number so nobody can find me smile

I will share the decryption key with Dominoes pizza though smile
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-May-11 00:09:36
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Just use paroxy-ide settings for your hair - they'll never recognise you?
Moderator billford
(moderator) Wed 04-May-11 00:13:18
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Good idea, but it wouldn't work- I'm blond anyway tongue

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-May-11 00:26:25
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Well, you may wish to consider died hair, for that whispy look..? It can be tie-dryed-died, and fryed for a snack?

Never mind the quality... f.e..e...l the width. Nice, innit. Yeah.

Suits you Sir! wink
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-May-11 00:50:04
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(Reuters) - Apple Inc on Wednesday released a software update to fix a problem that enabled its mobile devices to collect and store customers' location data, making good on a promise it made last week.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-May-11 08:08:34
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Stop trolling, there was never any "tracking", just a cache of location assistance data received. The cache size has now been reduced and is now not backed up.

If you're a Fandroid you should be asking Google why the hell they don't anonymise any data you send back to them.
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(deleted) Thu 05-May-11 18:54:30
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Stop trolling, there was never any "tracking", just a cache of location assistance data received. The cache size has now been reduced and is now not backed up.

If you're a Fandroid you should be asking Google why the hell they don't anonymise any data you send back to them.
Don't be rediculous. I'm interested because I have an iPhone, I don't have an Android. What's your excuse?

You appear to be denying the existence of the bug that Apple say they've fixed.
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(deleted) Thu 05-May-11 20:32:43
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The bug was that it stored too much of a cache of location assistance data. That's not your location, that is a very approximate database of cell towers and wifi access points you were near.

In my own case it had London and Bristol listed even though the closest I had been to those locations was near Ross-on-wye.

That is fixed now.

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(deleted) Thu 05-May-11 21:13:54
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The bug was that it stored too much of a cache of location assistance data.
and it kept recording even if location services was switched off
and the the data was transferred to the PC

The effect was that someone could create an app to display all the travels of your iPhone and this data was available to anyone without needing your permission. They only needed the data file.

Do you have an Android?
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(deleted) Thu 05-May-11 21:35:38
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It does not display where you have been to GPS level accuracy. It shows masts and wifi access points that are in the vicinity or up to 100 miles away in some cases.

Are you completely retarded or can you not understand what I am saying?

The phone is not logging your location, it is logging data received from Apple servers to assist with calculating your exact location.

Example process algorithm:

1. User opens Maps application.

2. iPhone sends details of what WIFI access points and cell masts the phone is talking to to Apple servers. Apple servers store data in anonymised form if not already present.

3. Apple servers send longitude and latitude information of the cell masts and WIFI access points the phone.

4. Phone receives data, writes it to cache file and calculates position.

All clear now?

The file contains the location of masts and wifi access points that in your general area. It does not contain your location.

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(deleted) Thu 05-May-11 21:49:24
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It does not display where you have been to GPS level accuracy. It shows masts and wifi access points that are in the vicinity or up to 100 miles away in some cases.

Are you completely retarded or can you not understand what I am saying?
Oh dear, little fanboy, I didn't mean to diss your religion. Keep your insults to yourself.

You appear to ignore that your location is calculated by triangulation of the data, and that the data is timestamped to the second.
Moderator billford
(moderator) Thu 05-May-11 21:55:33
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You were warned.

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