Printer?

Maybe a bit of a knee jerk reaction but after Canon stopped updating driver software (although I can't see why OS15.1 would have changed anything??) I don't want to go with them again.

I am in the market for a new printer... small form factor (previous Pixma TS6050), scanner not necessary as I have a fast document scanner separately...

Any personal recommendations?

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Just to clarify - i presume that means the v5.0 driver doesn't work, rather than is just not listed as compatible

FWIW For me, Canon's have been the least prone to clogging if left unused for a bit - so maybe go with whatever the current version of yours is.

Edited by ian_c (Wed 20-Nov-24 14:13:42)

Just looked it up in records... bought july 2017... for 107CHF so probably not the worst investment... but is weird that the latest version of the driver on Canon site says it is incompatible with OS15.1 when I try and load it... But I can connect to the printer via direct wifi and it prints from the MacBook even though I removed the driver from the Printer System settings dialog... just not via USB.

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Ver.24.30.0.0 (Mac) is from Canon website

Edited by nonymouse (Wed 20-Nov-24 15:08:14)

Sounds like you’ve done OK with it. Why not get another Canon if it was a decent printer and consumables costs didn’t scorch the earth?

I know, I was a bit miffed when the Support centre guy said basically you're screwed... but I can offer 20% discount on a new one...

Maybe I should have accepted, rather than saying that I would probably choose ANY other maker over Canon and 'flounced off'

Time will tell...

If the 20% off price looks good locally, maybe eat a bit of humble pie, call back, and bite their hand off 😂

(it’s been years since I worked in 🇨🇭- do they do Black Friday / Cyber Monday there these days?)

Not tested USB on my ip8750 - Wifi works OK, but is seeming to have trouble fetching supply data.

In reply to a post by nonymouse:

Maybe a bit of a knee jerk reaction but after Canon stopped updating driver software (although I can't see why OS15.1 would have changed anything??) I don't want to go with them again.

I am in the market for a new printer... small form factor (previous Pixma TS6050), scanner not necessary as I have a fast document scanner separately...

Any personal recommendations?

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Sadly these things happen, you can't expect manufactures to keep supporting products indefinitely and most of these companies are the same.
A know someone who has a Lexmark, that now don't work on Windows 10 and yet it did. The printer is not supported any more, so they will have to buy a new one. I know people with HP printers that now don't work on new operating systems, and Epson for that matter.

I still like Canon inkjets and when I do go for another inkjet, I will be looking at Canon or Brother.

As for you, depends on what you want, If you are not going to print photos, then maybe look at a laser/LED printer, a bit more expensive, but cheaper to run and you can leave them for ages between uses.

i have a Brother HL3150CDW, fantastic printer, it is a LED printer, but the quality is superb, colour as well. They don't make my model any more, but this link is to the later model;

But if that is large, too expensive, then I would suggest getting another canon. If not, then try a brother inkjet, one will be on my shortlist along with Canon when I look for an inkjet. But an A3 one

For sure… but because the prices were high to start with the discounted prices at this time are ‘normal’ for other places! 🥴

The reason it will probably have broken in 15.1 is because there were some long standing but only recently found security vulnerabilities with CUPS (the open source print server used in macOS).

Fixing those some of those issues completely necessarily involved breaking some existing printer drivers in a way that typically doesn’t happen when you fix most security vulnerabilities.The way some of CUPS worked was fundamentally insecure, the some drivers would need updating after this fix.

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The reason it will probably have broken in 15.1 is because there were some long standing but only recently found security vulnerabilities with CUPS (the open source print server used in macOS).

Fixing those some of those issues completely necessarily involved breaking some existing printer drivers in a way that typically doesn’t happen when you fix most security vulnerabilities.The way some of CUPS worked was fundamentally insecure, the some drivers would need updating after this fix.

That's why (after many years) I posted here... people who know stuff like that are here 🤣😂🤣😂

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In reply to a post by andynormancx:

The reason it will probably have broken in 15.1 is because there were some long standing but only recently found security vulnerabilities with CUPS (the open source print server used in macOS).

Fixing those some of those issues completely necessarily involved breaking some existing printer drivers in a way that typically doesn’t happen when you fix most security vulnerabilities.The way some of CUPS worked was fundamentally insecure, the some drivers would need updating after this fix.

Ah CUPS. I thought it was near enough dead in most recent releases of MacOS.

When they eventually put a fork in it - wouldn’t it be possible to use an intermediate device like a Pi or something to act as a CUPS “print server” for ancient printers? Dunno, just thinking out loud…

My Brother :LED printer uses CUPS, but it was only a couple of weeks ago that I realised it was using a driver that was not Brother, so some of the functions was not available, not that I really needed them, but if I get myself an inkjet, then I will need to use profiles on that, so I need to know how to install the manufacture's driver.

I do now know how to do that.

I remember mucking around with CUPS in Linux, for my Brother printer it is not too bad as it is more of a document printer with colour, certainly not a photo printer.

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- wouldn’t it be possible to use an intermediate device like a Pi or something to act as a CUPS “print server” for ancient printers? Dunno, just thinking out loud…

I have done this to turn an ancient HP printer with USB and parallel into a network printer. Worked a treat.

The last time I seriously played around with CUPS was probably well over ten years ago, now that I think about it.

Most recently I had to get AirPrint playing nicely between subnets. That was always a bit of a hotch-potch to get working nicely, but Mikrotik very recently implemented "one-click" support for the underlying mDNS Repeater functionality in RouterOS v7.16 which makes it a doddle.

Cool. It's amazing what you can do with a Pi or Arduino type device these days.

I've got one of the latter on my desk and it's smaller than a postage stamp!

I have an openSuSe image for my Pi 4 [4GB] and it is very nearly a capable desktop. Only thing missing is a proper off button. I think this is now available with Pi 5 and I want to give that a try when I have some free time. It will probably be Pi 6 by the time I get around to it.

I believe it is dead as an actual print server. But I’m guessing they were still keeping part of it kicking as a way to support some older printer drives like this Canon one. I don’t really know the details beyond the general details about this recent CUPS vulnerability (which allowed anyone on the network to run any code they liked as root).

If CUPS is dead, then what is the replacement? CUPS is fairly central to Linux printing.

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The last time I seriously played around with CUPS was probably well over ten years ago, now that I think about it.

Most recently I had to get AirPrint playing nicely between subnets. That was always a bit of a hotch-potch to get working nicely, but Mikrotik very recently implemented "one-click" support for the underlying mDNS Repeater functionality in RouterOS v7.16 which makes it a doddle.

It was airprint that my printer was on, by all accounts Air print is useless unless you just want basic printing.

...works well for portable devices like tablets and phones, where usually basic printing is all that's needed. Others if a full feature set is wanted, yeah by all means jump on a laptop / desktop loaded with a full-fat driver.

I was watching a video on YouTube by a bloke who does a lot of photo printing, and he was setting up a new Epson on his Mac studio and he said about the Air print driver and I thought, I will have a look and yes, I was using Air print.
But as I said, for the printer i have it makes little difference, no profiles or stuff like that. I now have secure print and I can change a few things like colour matching and I now have Toner save.

Saying that, the printer seems to come out of standby a little faster for some reason.

I use Airprint from my iPhone to an Canon IP8750 and you can control pretty much all the same settings as you can on a Mac.

On the Mac I'm using a USB connection.