EE Double Speed results...

Hi All

Anyone on EE with the "double speed" tariff and in a double speed area? If so can you post some test results using the speedtest.net app selecting the Maidstone (Custodian) server in the following format:-

Location, Date/Time, Download speed, Upload speed, Phone make + model

Please ensure you're on LTE before testing, I'm not interested in 3G results.

Thanks,

I think double speed has gone as a price plan. The idea was single speed rate limited you to 30mbps max. I have a phone plan that is before double speed, and a tablet plan from January claiming to support double speed. At Heathrow last week which is a 20mhz area (double speed) I was able to get 9meg download. Same in Nottingham last weekend. At home in a 10mhz single speed area I've seen 15mbps.

So as you can see its a marketing mistake to separate them, which I suspect is why since the website was relaunched I can't see much mention of double speed anymore.

Edited by deleted (Sat 19-Apr-14 18:16:24)

The reason for asking is because I probably need to drive to a location that I could actually see 30~60Mbps to test for work.

I wonder what O2's 4G speed is? A very rural mast near me has been enabled and I doubt it'll have much contention as O2 have very low usage limits and it probably covers just 300 homes.

I'm in Kent ... there is no Three 4G here.

In reply to a post by 5km:

I wonder what O2's 4G speed is?

They only have 10mhz of spectrum, both EE and Voda have 20mhz - but both Voda and O2 have a lot less customers than EE, so you should see good high speeds. 50meg plus. I see 45meg plus at 1am.

Shame that "double speed" is still sold, because it sounds like a recipe for disaster with the ASA.

http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2013/02/20/ofcom-announces... says o2 has 2x10 blocks so 20mhz the coverage obligation lot

So at 800mhz ee has 10mhz 3 has 10mhz and voda 20mhz so on 800 o2 and voda will have the best capacity and range etc others have more in the 1800mhz and 2600mhz range but that is best for local provision

Edited by deleted (Tue 22-Apr-14 08:45:20)

In reply to a post by adamtemp:

So at 800mhz ee has 10mhz 3 has 10mhz and voda 20mhz so on 800 o2 and voda will have the best capacity and range etc others have more in the 1800mhz and 2600mhz range but that is best for local provision

But EE already have more masts at 1800mhz 2G (from the 1990s) than VO2 have for their 900mhz 2G - so in the end EE's huge 1800mhz holding could be very interesting.

Give it 3 years

More masts at 1800mhz due to its poor in building penetration / range o2 and voda 900mhz travels further and penetrartes buildings better hence the 800mhz 4g is even better for in building penetration

In reply to a post by adamtemp:

More masts at 1800mhz due to its poor in building penetration / range o2 and voda 900mhz travels further and penetrartes buildings better hence the 800mhz 4g is even better for in building penetration

That's the theory, but nobody has seen if its the same in real world yet. I can't wait for some real third party tests

In reply to a post by adamtemp:

More masts at 1800mhz due to its poor in building penetration / range o2 and voda 900mhz travels further and penetrartes buildings better hence the 800mhz 4g is even better for in building penetration

the former is better?

a mast that penetrates more means less masts which means higher contention ratio?

or do these high penetration masts somehow have higher bandwidth capacity?

You need both.

1800Mhz will provide capacity for those near the mast and 800Mhz will provide indoor coverage and connectivity for those that are too far (or receive poor signal).

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

or do these high penetration masts somehow have higher bandwidth capacity?

Generally each 4G/LTE mast from any vendor will have a 1Gbps backhaul link, as I've read.

The networks with good capacity plans (EE and Vodafone) both have bought 800, 1800 and 2600mhz allocations to ensure they can make a good stab at capacity. Vodafone's majority of capacity will be at 800, and EE's at 1800, but they will both add the others for rural long reach and city capacity. You want the least number of users per sector on a mast.

The other two networks currently have paid less and received less, and will in the end (given shared load), have a slower network. That is assuming end users are spread relatively the same across all 4 networks and we know that never happens as marketing and personal judgement come in to play (I know people who say "I've always been on network xx but I never get 3G" when 2 other networks have 3G in their house, they just never knew).

Sorry I am a bit late to this thread...

Firstly I work for EE Corp. so my comments might be biased.

Speedtest in Trowell Services on the M1 Northbound yesterday
Double Speed area. Handset iPhone 5.
To a server selected based on ping by Speedtest.net app
DL - 77.72
UL - 19.80
Ping - 37ms

To your preferred server
DL - 63.68
UL - 18.36
Ping - 82ms

Edited by bookey (Thu 01-May-14 16:45:13)

77Mbps is not possible without using a bandwidth of 15Mhz+. I don't believe this result.

Perhaps you can answer what set up EE have:-

Are they using MIMO or SISO?
What bandwidth are "single speed" and "double speed" areas?

In Kent where I an able to test they are using 10Mhz bandwidth in a "single speed" area but this must only be SISO as the max is about 20Mbps throughput (10Mhz SISO is about 36Mbps max whereas 10Mhz MIMO would be about 72Mbps max).

I have O2 4g in Birmingham..... Coverage and speeds are [censored] and it's been here for sometime now and nothing has improved....

Vodafone however have brilliant coverage and EE have the best of both here

I would go with EE as they have licenses for all LTE Spectrums and widest coverage .... Also they where voted best network by root metrics

In reply to a post by 5km:

77Mbps is not possible without using a bandwidth of 15Mhz+. I don't believe this result.
It's 20Mhz, so it's valid.

Perhaps you can answer what set up EE have:-

Are they using MIMO or SISO?
There is no MIMO on the LTE side as yet.

What bandwidth are "single speed" and "double speed" areas?
Single = 10Mhz of 1800Mhz
Double = 20Mhz of 1800Mhz

In Kent where I an able to test they are using 10Mhz bandwidth in a "single speed" area but this must only be SISO as the max is about 20Mbps throughput (10Mhz SISO is about 36Mbps max whereas 10Mhz MIMO would be about 72Mbps max).

In reply to a post by bookey:

Speedtest in Trowell Services on the M1 Northbound yesterday
Double Speed area. Handset iPhone 5.
To a server selected based on ping by Speedtest.net app
DL - 77.72
UL - 19.80
Ping - 37ms

Wow at LHR airport in Dec I saw 62 Mbps DL and 18 UL on my 5s - in a 20mhz area.

In Farnborough, Hants, a 10mhz area, I've seen 45 Mbps at 1am, but normally get much lower than that, average 10Mbps, and I suspect the service is popular around here