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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Oct-15 10:34:46
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Any viable 4g tariffs to replace poor adsl?


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Hi,

I'm looking over 4g options to consider instead of my adsl connection. I don't seem able to find any that offer a decent bandwidth however. Is anyone aware of a sim only or mifi type deal that offers more than a few gig a month?

I tend to do a lot of online gaming on the ps4 so a quick connection is required and I download a few gig a month too although I could limit the downloads a little if I had to and the price was right.

With my exchange looking like fibre will never arrive I'm wondering if it's genuinely doable to swap to 4g instead?
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(staff) Mon 26-Oct-15 10:41:09
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Re: Any viable 4g tariffs to replace poor adsl?


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Best is usually in the 20 to 50GB per month range, which for games downloads is almost nothing e.g. freebie games can be 10 to 20GB each.

Best might be to retain a slow ADSL line for large downloads and do those overnight, with gaming (if 4G delivers the stable latency and that's a big IF) itself and day to day use over the 4G SIM.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Oct-15 10:48:56
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Yeah I was concerned about the latency. But the issue I have is with adsl the upload seems too slow for games like GTA online and COD. I get major lag issues I was hoping the 4g would resolve.

Don't suppose anyone could recommend which networks are better for this?

And yeah, the adsl for download idea is a good one. Thanks.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Oct-15 10:56:44
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GiffGaff (O2 network) now offer unlimited £20/month 4G goodybag: https://www.giffgaff.com/goodybags/20pound-goodybag

but the catch is:
What does �Always On� data mean?
Our Always On goodybag is designed to give you peace of mind that you'll always have access to data. With Always On you get 6GB of UK data at full 4G speeds and then an unlimited data allowance at a reduced speed (256kbps) from 8am to midnight. From midnight to 7.59am you have an unlimited data allowance at full speed.

EDIT: I guess if you are doing well beyond 6GB a month, you should look elsewhere.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 26-Oct-15 11:04:06
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Low upload? Call of Duty does not need massive amounts of upload, a standard ADSL line with up to 400 Kbps upload should be a factor a 3 to 4 times better than what is actually needed.

Only time this is not the case is if trying to broadcast a twitch stream. Voice should even be okay over an ADSL line.

Lag issues are probably nothing to do with the upload, but may be a lot more to do with the exchange or the ISP choice, which exchange and which ISP are involved.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Oct-15 11:04:41
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Just realised that if you used this in a 4G router, I'm pretty sure they would block you for using unlimited goodybag with mifi device:

https://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Learning-and-giffg...

So, scrap this idea. You'll need to look elsewhere.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Oct-15 11:07:51
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You could always look at A&A: http://www.aaisp.net.uk/telecoms-mobile-data.html

They offer a very simple flat rate fee of £2/month for the SIM, then a PAYG charging policy for the bandwidth actually used. They run on the Three network, but not sure if it's a 4G enabled service (call them and enquire if you are interested?).
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Oct-15 12:18:04
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I noticed lag with talktalk adsl at a past address. Moved to fibre with talktalk and all was perfect.

The lag seemed worse on GTA. When walking it was fine but if driving with other people in my car their systems lagged while mine was fine. Caused problems when doing multiplayer. I could be a passenger to avoid the lag most of the time but occasionally it came back.

I presumed it was the slow upload speed that did it on ps4 having party chat open too. I'll see how it all works later this week when talktalk install my new connection at the new address. Buy as its a straight connection to the exchange without a green box and as the lines here look old I'm expecting a poor connection despite their predictions sadly.
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(staff) Mon 26-Oct-15 13:21:19
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Party chat - should only use upload for your voice or text (if video involved then yes ADSL will be bad)

The other peoples voice and text messages really only impact the download side.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Oct-15 13:31:21
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I suspect party chat uses less compression than in game chat however as the quality is a lot better. Very noticeable.

Using in game chat seems to reduce lag on poorer connections for me.

I'll test it when I get my 3rd world connection sorted here. Currently without any net at all. It's depressing laugh
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Oct-15 15:30:59
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I use EE 4G £50 a month for 50GB.
With a router and two bars of signal I get up to 20MB down and 5 up.
Better than the 3MB ADSL I was otherwise forced to accept.
Standard User LA7
(learned) Sun 10-Jan-16 17:36:55
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EE do a special 4g home package with a mains powered router called EE HOME 4GEE its not the standard mobile broadband package this one is called home 4gee this is taken from this thread http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/notspot/f/4324543-e...


See here for home 4gee info page http://ee.co.uk/ee-and-me/why-ee/family-home/home-br...

Here is the prices for home 4gee contract
£28 20GB data
£33 30GB data
£44 50GB data

Then if you use your monthly allowance up extra data add ons are
£10 5GB
£15 10GB
£20 20GB

All pay monthly contract details are here in this .pdf for EE home 4gee

http://ee.co.uk/content/dam/ee-help/Help-PDFs/EE-PAY...

Also you can buy home 4gee on pay as you go also comes with the mains powered router the same as on contract on payg the router is £99 comes with 10 gig i have this package myself then just top up by top up voucher the data addons are below are for payg

payg home 4gee data addons.
£10 4GB
£15 10GB
£25 20GB


all info PAYG info in the .pdf http://ee.co.uk/content/dam/ee-help/Help-PDFs/EE-PAY...

Edited by LA7 (Sun 10-Jan-16 23:20:40)

Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Mon 11-Jan-16 01:32:59
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Have you got the tall box shapped router shown in your first EE link?

If so, does it have wired connections or is it just Wifi?

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Standard User dragon2611
(experienced) Mon 11-Jan-16 09:23:49
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At the moment the standard 50GB mobile broadband is on offer and therefore costs less for 50GB data. (£27.50)

Presumably nothing to stop you using you own router rather than the Wi-fi hotspot they olffer.
Standard User LA7
(learned) Mon 11-Jan-16 22:55:42
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it has wifi and ethernet
Standard User LA7
(regular) Mon 11-Jan-16 22:56:50
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But data addons are more expensive on that tariff and the largest data add on on that tariff is 10gb
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 12-Jan-16 09:39:23
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thats a pretty good deal on paper.

The issue is that giffgaff's network is as fast as a snail.

Sky Fibre Pro BQM - IPv4
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Tue 12-Jan-16 10:54:41
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
thats a pretty good deal on paper.

The issue is that giffgaff's network is as fast as a snail.


Agreed. I second this 1000x.
Standard User leexgx
(committed) Tue 12-Jan-16 13:05:47
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actually you get banned from buying the £20 goodybag on giffgaff if you use past 12GB in short time (week or 2) or over 20GB in past 30 days (not Per goodybag) so you should text PLAN to 43430 to make sure you not over 15GB

customers of giffgaff are still getting banned for using lots of data at night now, as the 3G unlimited goodybag hidden Ban FUP is applicable to the new £20 4G always on "ish" goodybag (this is on top of the 6GB high speed cap 256kbs between 8am-midnight, full speed between midnight and 8am)

data speeds are still an issue on giffgaff, giffgaff cant provide more then under 0kbs-300kbs to under 2mb (depends how lucky you are) between 11am-midnight due to giffgaff is only buying enough capacity to just about 300kbs at times (with upload speeds of 13-20mb on 4G),

but once january 3th passes when there next new recured after that date any one on a 3G goodybag will be on the 6GB capped one (the amount of complaints we get this month and past february 13th will be interesting),

giffgaff are removing the unlimited ish 3G goodybag to make people leave who use lots of data (really think they should of done it right away, they ignored the idea to impose high speed capping at 10GB (500kbs and 12GB 128kbs)

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