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Plusnet mobile special offer. I presume it uses the EE network.

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

Plusnet mobile special offer. I presume it uses the EE network.

Apparently EE now fully own the virtual network "LIFE mobile" that was part of Phones4U in the past. LIFE mobile is apparently morphing into Plusnet mobile and eventually LIFE will go.
https://lifemobile.co.uk/Info/PlusnetFAQ

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

I presume it uses the EE network.

Read the blurb below the top picture on your link and above the page-wide red line .

Thank you. I clearly had not read it properly! I was more interested in the offer, though I can't sensibly take advantage of it because of my existing contract. I hope some one else can as I have benefited from other offers mentioned on this web site.

It might suit me, as a pure mobile customer, but like you tied in for a while. Also I have the double speed EE service, whatever it's called, and haven't checked which one Plusnet's is.

I've registered an interest as no longer in contract with 3.

One of the cheaper contracts might be for me.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

Plusnet mobile special offer. I presume it uses the EE network.

Apparently EE now fully own the virtual network "LIFE mobile" that was part of Phones4U in the past. LIFE mobile is apparently morphing into Plusnet mobile and eventually LIFE will go.
https://lifemobile.co.uk/Info/PlusnetFAQ

Yes the bought it last year. I never went with Life as they never sent me a sim but happily took the first month's service. Life was also only 3G so the fact they are doing 4G is brill for that price.

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

Thank you. I clearly had not read it properly! I was more interested in the offer, though I can't sensibly take advantage of it because of my existing contract. I hope some one else can as I have benefited from other offers mentioned on this web site.

This is one of the main reasons me and my family do either 12 month or 30 day contracts. I am grateful to you for bringing this to my attention. My dad pays £39 to EE for the same package so even £15 is a belter of a saving.

I'm currently on the £5 a month BT 500mb/ultd mins and texts but I have been hitting the 500MB just using GPS when out and about so i'm going to swap to this £10 deal - as my sim will be £10 one my infinity runs out and then it's not worth it.

Will probably be single speed as it's still an MVNO. I hope I am wrong but they wouldn't even give Life 4G when I looked at them.

I'm not too sure - which is why I pointed out I hadn't checked.

BT Group owns EE and Plusnet, so it's debatable about it being an MVNO. I don't think Ofcom impose equivalence rules in the way they do with Openreach.

Fair point. Although BT Mobile was sold as a MVNO (admittedly they didn't own EE then). It's a good deal to be had and although the Plusnet name does not fill me with confidence the EE network does and so that's why I am even looking at this deal.

I would suspect that those pries would attract single speed. I recall (as I am sure you do too) when EE used to sell Double Speed as another add on before shifting it now to the highest packages.

Another example of where an MVNO got full speeds was Freedompop. Some reported getting the same as if not better speeds than on 3. I assumed it was because FP bought their bandwidth and therefore the priority was more than someone on an all you can eat tariff.

I guess either way, shortly after the 29th of November we will start to find out - I will certainly report back on what I get, if that helps.

Edited by deleted (Tue 15-Nov-16 16:13:34)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

It might suit me, as a pure mobile customer, but like you tied in for a while. Also I have the double speed EE service, whatever it's called, and haven't checked which one Plusnet's is.

Anyone tested this out extensively? I came from a sim only not double speed data which got me around 50Mbps in most areas, now I have a £40 contract I still get the same speeds despite it claiming double data speeds*...

Edited by ukhardy07 (Tue 15-Nov-16 19:15:27)

Not me. I think it was the default on the phone/allowance package I bought.

Maybe BT Mobile will get the same? If so I can test using my data if you like?

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

Anyone tested this out extensively? I came from a sim only not double speed data which got me around 50Mbps in most areas, now I have a £40 contract I still get the same speeds despite it claiming double data speeds*...

The new pricing is even more obtuse -- EE's network is good, and with an LTE Cat6 or better device I have seen speeds of over 100mbps, but there are areas where there are just too many users, and so speeds of 30mbps are all you can achieve.

So what do BT do, 6 months after taking over? Change all the price plans to sell THREE speed tiers; upto 30, upto 60 and best speeds. I

I'm not sure what they're thinking, this is a variable service for everyone, not fixed line broadband.

I was a fan of EE, but I think BT have just shown they don't understand mobile / cellular comms.

I couldn't have summed it up better myself!

My view in central London is that speeds are often congested and both seem around the 15Mbps mark.

I've seen an Iphone 7 do over 150Mbps In the south east.

I wonder if Plusnet will offer

- Tethering of data?

- Voice calling over 4G? (VoLTE)

- Wifi calling on compatible handsets?

- iPhone visual voicemail?

AFAIK BT Mobile (also a EE MVNO) allows none of the above.

My dad uses wifi calling on his EE phone over a Plusnet FTTC line and he still finds the need to stand outside to stop him breaking up.

So even if they do - will it be ANY good?

Pardon?

Or even IPV6 on compatible handsets.

Will wifi calling on Plusnet's service be any good - that was my question

Based on seeing people's experience of EE's wifi calling which was less than good.

At home I find EE wifi calling on my iPhone 6 excellent and voice quality is as good as EE VoLTE. Of course you do need a decent broadband connection, with good latency and a good wifi connection. Yet when I'm in my local marks & sparks their wifi is terrible so obviously wifi calling suffers as a result.

One other major advantage of wifi calling ( at least on EE) is that you can use wifi calling abroad using a VPN and therefore don't charged for calls and texts to uk - based on my experience.

Edited by deleted (Wed 16-Nov-16 16:39:54)

I'm still confused by having to go outside but still breaks up if the call is going via FTTC. Surely it is still going normally - just any costs are covered under the FTTC line rental and calls package?

I am sure he has EU roaming included with his allowance, But that is a good thing to know cheers

I agree, I guess when the WIFI drops it uses the normal way - but he finds his connection on his phone (Also a 6) to be really bad when using the WIFI calling and so because it's where he gets the best signal he goes out into the garden.

I've used the Three in touch app when I am at his as 3 gets little to no signal there - and it's worked just fine for me - so maybe it's his phone no idea.

Nothing to do with EU roaming, I have successfully used EE wifi calling in Chile, Qatar and New Zealand since April 2015 when WC first went live on iOS. This is on an EE account where overseas roaming is barred

Then it's nothing to do with his FTTC. By which I mean it isn't using it. It's an accounting thing to let him use his landline plan to make free calls.

I forget the details of how it works, but it worked for me using a BT App on my O2 mobile, with O2 broadband on a BT Retail landline. Instead of (for example) 0800 calls from my O2 phone/O2 call plan costing me, in the days 0800 wasn't free on mobiles, I used the BT App and that call was "charged" (= free) against my BT landline.

In reply to a post by 23Prince:

I agree, I guess when the WIFI drops it uses the normal way - but he finds his connection on his phone (Also a 6) to be really bad when using the WIFI calling and so because it's where he gets the best signal he goes out into the garden.

Generally if the Wifi is busy (e.g. in Hotels) you have to turn EE's WiFi calling off in the settings menu. I find if you have a house full of teenagers the WiFi can get saturated so much that it stops WiFi calling being usable.

Three and O2 use an app, Vodafone and EE use the features in the iPhone (Vodafone need 6S or later) to do the same thing, but you end up with only one set of texts etc.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

I forget the details of how it works, but it worked for me using a BT App on my O2 mobile, with O2 broadband on a BT Retail landline. Instead of (for example) 0800 calls from my O2 phone/O2 call plan costing me, in the days 0800 wasn't free on mobiles, I used the BT App and that call was "charged" (= free) against my BT landline.

That's something completely different of course, and works if you have a BT landline - even works if you are overseas.

The WiFi calling feature is something built in to all iPhones (since the 5) and some Androids and works on EE and Vodafone today (Three coming soon) without adding an app. Vodafone only with 6S or later.

Its a good service if you have reliable low latency WiFi that isn't being maxed out by others, e.g. hotels and shopping centres. I tend to keep it switched off and only turn on if I'm somewhere with "No service" displayed which is a lot less on EE than it was on Vodafone.

OK, I stand corrected.

But it makes no sense then that he has to go outside to use it at all sensibly, and it still drops out?

In their house, with presumably no-one else using it, how could that happen?

Unless 23Prince actually lives at home, because his downloads of currently claimed 16GB per month on average would be the problem.

Then I'm guessing there's something wrong with his set up. I use EE wifi calling, and it works a treat with my 5S, even when the connection it is dialling out over is ADSL.

I've got wifi calling enabled and I even used it on the virgin train wifi without any issues.

No issues for me and it falls back onto VOLTE when I go out of wifi range.

Yes, but all I'm querying, because it sounds very strange, is this post. (And the follow-ups to my query of course).

It seems to me there is either something killing the FTTC, but see my post about 23Prince's usage (typo in it - 16TB per month, not 16GB), if he lives with his father, or the wifi to that FTTC simply isn't working. Having to go outside suggests perhaps the latter.

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 17-Nov-16 11:04:32)

Yep very odd. We download over 2Tb a month and I use it on my FTTC whilst others stream Netflix 4K and have Skype calls.

I had issues on Westfield WiFi a few times and in Heathrow airport.

Generally I do only turn on wifi calling when I struggle with service though, I generally then forget to disable it for a few weeks until it causes me bother i.e. at Westfield or somewhere and then I disable it.

I use wifi calling whilst I am at work as we get no signal inside the building. It has always seemed to work just fine for both calls and texts. And because it is turned on it also uses it by default when I am at home and is fine there too - don't do much in the way of mobile calling but when I do I have never had an issue.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Nothing to do with EU roaming, I have successfully used EE wifi calling in Chile, Qatar and New Zealand since April 2015 when WC first went live on iOS. This is on an EE account where overseas roaming is barred

I really don't know - He can use his allowance in the EU same as the UK is all I do know for sure.

Edit: Already been discussed above

Edited by deleted (Thu 17-Nov-16 10:59:03)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

OK, I stand corrected.

But it makes no sense then that he has to go outside to use it at all sensibly, and it still drops out?

In their house, with presumably no-one else using it, how could that happen?

Unless 23Prince actually lives at home, because his downloads of currently claimed 16GB per month on average would be the problem.

16GB per month is very small amount - and no I live 50 miles away.

I guess using the [censored] plusnet router his wifi range is rubbish - as it's only a 3 bed bungalow.

Although, that said it's possible he is maxing his wifi out and that's the problem. He does tend to download a lot in the day rather than at night and he only has 21mbps FTTC so, yes.. good point!

Edited by deleted (Thu 17-Nov-16 11:00:16)

Errmmmmm. That 16GB was a typo as I'm sure you know, seeing as I was quoting one of your boasts.

16TB.

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 17-Nov-16 11:02:56)

If he has this router I can confirm it has the most unstable WiFi out of virtually all 2.4Ghz routers I have used:
http://community.plus.net/legacyfs/online/plusnet_bl...

On this router, I cannot use EE WiFi Calling, over at my friends house they have 80/20 full sync up and down and despite speedtests getting 30Mbps over WiFi, EE WiFi calling is unusable and downloading an app from the Apple Store takes around 5 minutes solid often randomly stalling mid-way. I've always assumed their router was faulty but perhaps they're all this bad.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Errmmmmm. That 16GB was a typo as I'm sure you know, seeing as I was quoting one of your boasts.

16TB.

Indeed I do sure know. I DO like my usenet usage. I am only a week in too (resets 9th)

https://s4.postimg.org/lxgkh6ast/image.jpg

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

If he has this router I can confirm it has the most unstable WiFi out of virtually all 2.4Ghz routers I have used:
http://community.plus.net/legacyfs/online/plusnet_bl...

On this router, I cannot use EE WiFi Calling, over at my friends house they have 80/20 full sync up and down and despite speedtests getting 30Mbps over WiFi, EE WiFi calling is unusable and downloading an app from the Apple Store takes around 5 minutes solid often randomly stalling mid-way. I've always assumed their router was faulty but perhaps they're all this bad.

He does have one similar and it's possibly that one. I have tried to give him a Billion but he won't have an all in one unit - which is a bit bonkers.

I'll try again to convince him, thanks for confirming what I suspected

Going back on topic.

I do wonder if Plusnet/EE will start credit checking for their mobile service? Most providers do for sim only 30 days and it's something they have never done before when it comes to giving people service.

I know life do one (even though they told me they didn't) so I suspect they might?

BT Mobile is capped at 30mbps unless you pay for full speed. I suspect PN will be the same

they trashing the market, EE were the one provider who were aiming to be premium, now BT seem to be dragging it down to three's level with these prices.

I got 102 down and 55 up last night on 3 and I often get 60mbps + down and 30mbps up where I live. - that's not a bad level. I find three's all you can eat good but only when I try to use the 30GB hotspot does it crawl, so I never use it.

EE is still fast here also, but it seems the future may not be so rosy.

Just pulled the plug on my phone upgrade with EE, LG G5 next week

Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 19-Nov-16 21:01:41)

OMG good choice man!

I have the G3 and the G5 is going to be my next phone - love the G3 and having the buttons on the side would be amazing

ditching samsung, hate that new curved screen they got going on, also hate their bad memory management which kills background apps, and I want a fm radio again.

for some reason the lg G5 SE is more expensive than the G5 on EE yet from what I can tell from the spec sheets the G5 is definitely higher spec,

Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 19-Nov-16 21:03:22)

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

EE is still fast here also, but it seems the future may not be so rosy.

Yes one to watch.

Just pulled the plug on my phone upgrade with EE, LG G5 next week

I have one of those on an EE prepay SIM but its a generic model from Amazon

I've never liked Samsung if I am honest. And yes the G5 over the SE is a better choice

I've always got mine from Amazon, when the G3 got down to £130 each I grabbed 2- the G5 is coming down in price also

In reply to a post by 23Prince:

I got 102 down and 55 up last night on 3 and I often get 60mbps + down and 30mbps up where I live. - that's not a bad level. I find three's all you can eat good but only when I try to use the 30GB hotspot does it crawl, so I never use it.

BT Mobile on the other hand is full speed handset or tethering for the whole allowance - the draw I suppose of a limited allowance vs unlimited.

I hope PN mobile does the same.

Well, Got the e-mail to take the special offer, and invited to create an account.

https://s22.postimg.org/90ulgma2p/pnmobile.jpg

So far so good! :/