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I live in a poor Broadband area and my son an avid PS4 gamer has a sore throat from constantly shouting at me to reset the hub or that he�s �lagging�. I decided to join 3 Three UK mobile broadband and buy a Huewai device.
The 3 sim is £34 per month and says it includes the go binge all you can eat data but says 30gb hotspot limit.
Now on the live chat they said that as I will be using a 4g router the go binge all you can eat data would kick in and all the devices connected will receive unlimited data.
Now does anyone have experience with this as I�m a little sceptical as the first two days my data on the Huewai app is already used 5gb.
Any help or info appreciated.
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There was a recent Ofcom agreement with Three about tethering limits and my reading of it is they've agreed to remove the separate hotspot limits (from December). You can log onto your Three account or use the app and it will tell you how much you've used. That said mine has stopped counting tethered data so it still shows my full allowance, this is recent and could be related to the Ofcom agreement I guess (but is much earlier than December).
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/latest/bulletin...
Mike
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Just hope people don't start ditching their lines and hammering 4g like what happened last time
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Just hope people don't start ditching their lines and hammering 4g like what happened last time
Can you blame them when ADSL service is so poor to many people and they have no prospect of getting fibre anytime soon (as in my case here!).
In answer to the OP question - I have the same £35/month 3 deal in a 4G modem attached to a high-gain antenna pointing towards the nearest mast. Anything coming off that connection is indeed included in the all-you-can-eat-data plan, so you have no worries there. I've pulled around 200Gb last month without any problems. I've no idea why they list this stupid 30Gb tethering limit, since I don't see what the difference is when you have AYCE data through the connection to any device on your network!
Whilst I have so far found the connection to be reliable in terms of up-time, the speed of 3's 4G network has taken a real nose-dive in the last year and is appalling on the whole. Despite having a rock-solid signal here, both my phone and data contract rarely get more than 10Mbps and often around 6/7Mbps. Many other areas of the country I travel to don't seem to fair much better. I would be very interested to find out what speeds you are getting..
Anyway, sorry for going off-topic!
Dan
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Just hope people don't start ditching their lines and hammering 4g like what happened last time
solution there is to not have these crazy "unlimited for X" type offers. Just sell an allowance, e.g. 100GB or 200GB for a price.
Last time people were apparently using several TB a month over cellular. That's not sustainable on a radio link.
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I have also gone for the HomeFi product, so limited to the 100GB./mnth
However my speeds are great, 100Mbps compared to my ADSL 2Mbps
Speedtest
I was using the £35/mnth but thought that the router would be blacklisted eventually.
TalkTalk SimplyBroadband
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Live chat are wrong - Go binge is literally for providers like Netflix and Apple Music - not for PS4 gaming.
You can only use what you get for hotspot -that's it
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Whilst I have so far found the connection to be reliable in terms of up-time, the speed of 3's 4G network has taken a real nose-dive in the last year and is appalling on the whole. Despite having a rock-solid signal here, both my phone and data contract rarely get more than 10Mbps and often around 6/7Mbps.
Oh the irony! someone who defends bandwidth abuse then turns around and complains they can't do the same because everyone else is and their service is degraded as a result.
Quick bit of education pal - the service might be all you can eat - but the backhaul to the mast can only take so many people at 100mbps - start downloading at 4AM or get something better.
I was with three and I had the same problem as you - I had the oneplan back in the day so I fully get the business model - however it was never going to last.
I now pay EE £68 a month for 100GB - yes it's capped but I just about get through it in a month, and that's with CONSTANT speeds over over 250mbps everywhere I go.
You get what you pay for - and with 3 it's never much!
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250mbps or 250Mbps or 25Mbps?
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Yesterday after experiencing terrible connection I contacted three who apologised profusely that I received incorrect information and was miss sold a service. The sim they sold me was a phone sim and not a broadband sim and therefore useless in a 4g hotspot device. They have refunded me my money. Unfortunately they refuse to refund me for the Huawei pocket hotspot I purposely bought unlocked for £42 
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Did you buy the hotspot from them on the direct understanding it would be used with their service? Did they advise you to buy the hotspot to use with the SIM?
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They cannot refund the cost of the Huawei hotspot device because it wasn�t purchase through them. They said they are happy to credit me £42 on a three payg sim (I told them that would be of no use to me as I�m unlimited mobile with o2) Inpurchased the hotspot device from Amazon on the sole belief I could use the three sim in it as discussed on live chat and live chat telling me that this sim would work on the device and allow me unlimited data usage.
I�ve accepted the loss and looks like there�s no 4g mobile broadband sims that can offer me unlimited data usage, the best appears to be EE for 200gn at £80 per month or I stick to my trusty old BT broadband with [censored] copper cable with 1mb speeds
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I'm a little confused by this
I thought that the ofcom ruling linked above stated they were not capping tethering at all so is this not the case?
I'm currently using the EE 200GB/4G option (using a mikrotik router) and was very tempted to grab a Three SIM yesterday after reading this thread (£35pm for unlimited sounded ideal!)
So when you say you w ere having performance issues, was this just on PS4, what issues did you have exactly?
Thanks in advance
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Tethering is not the same as using the SIM in a router.
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But how do they know? SUrely when tethering your phone is just routing anyway?
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I believe the device reports back what it is - so they can tell the difference between a router, phone, tablet, etc. I am not convinced this is what caused the issues as I feel they are clutching at straws but the AYCE SIMS are specifically sold for use in mobile phones and I couldn't find any AYCE SIM that was for "data" (ie router).
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@Cavefender, Three do a 100GB/month data SIM for £30 per month - that's what I'm using. It is half the data of the EE offering, but less than half the price - so for 200GB/month it is cheaper to have two Three SIMMs and swap between them. And you still get the go binge "free" data for netflix etc.
I actually load-balance my ADSL line with the 4G, so I manage to download between 140GB and 200GB per month without going over my 100GB 4G allowance.
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Can you explain more about bonding please? My sky broadband is about 6meg down and I can�t get fibre, I also have the 100gig from three and it�s a god send for the kids watching Netflix and I only use about 60gig a month.
I�ve never heard of bonding before what do you use to do it?
Edited by deleted (Tue 04-Sep-18 15:20:01)
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I can't find that 100G deal on three, have you got a link to it please?
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That sounds like a great idea and I guess it would just be a case of switching the sim over once the data is used. Thanks for that 👍🏼
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It is a strange one - the 100GB deals are only available in the shops (I'm assuming they still are available). They didn't advertise it on-line as not everyone can get it (I guess it depends on the backhaul in each area or something?). It is the HomeFi product, which comes with a Huawei B311 modem. When I went for it last October the 40GB/month was £25 per month, and the 100GB £30. I see the 40GB is now £29, so I expect the 100GB will have gone up too.
I guess they may do the desl over the phone too if you don't a Three shop nearby.
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I use load-balancing rather than line-bonding. Line bonding gives single-thread speed which is the sum of the links (less a bit of overhead), but requires support at both ends of the connection. Load-balancing only needs support at your end, but only give a max single-thread speed of the fastest link you have. However, for multi-thread use it can use the full combined bandwidth. I use a Vigor Draytek 2860n+ which can load-balance several connections - including for example an ADSL line and a 4G dongle or even a WiFi hotspot (so for example if you have a mobile phone you can tether the Draytek to it and load balance that with your other connections - good for speed boost or a backup if the ADSL line goes down).
Other routers can do similar load-balancing, but I suspect that the cheap ones ISPs provide won't.
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It isn�t an issue with the tethering all be it they suggested there�s a 30gb hotspot limit. The issue was it was a phone sim they sold me not a mobile broadband sim and therefore unstable in the Huewai hotspot device mostly only throwing 0.40mb instead of over 10mbps which they said would be an average.
So three do mobile broadband sims but they are all capped and they do not offer mobile broadband unlimited the max they offer is 100 or 200gb but for a price.
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mobile broadband sim and therefore unstable in the Huewai hotspot device Personally I think they were telling you techno-babble. There is no reason a "phone sim" would be unstable in a router. They may not allow them and therefore have technical blocks in their network when they are used in unsupported devices but a "mobile broadband sim" and "phone sim" should only be different in that the first is data only whereas the second includes texts and minutes. My suspicion is they throttle "phone sims" when used in non-phone devices.
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Yup sounds like lies
there is not a difference between a "phone sim" and a sim that would go in a 4G router FAIK.
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Like others have said, there is no difference between a phone and data sim. However, at the network level they are treated differently, you tend to find data sims have far less restrictions in terms of how you can use your data allocation.
Three network phone sims on the other hand tend to have more generous data allowances on the handset, however tethering if allowed, is throttled and given a low priority on the network. Three determine a tethered device based on the HTTP & HTTPS headers being sent (other networks use a separate APN, however I don�t believe Three do this).
Full details of Three�s traffic sense can be found here:
http://support.three.co.uk/mobiledocs/Support/Signal...
So even if you do get a Three phone sim to work in a router, the likelihood is that the performance will be worse than if you had a data sim.
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