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Standard User biohead
(newbie) Sat 13-Apr-19 14:42:59
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Huawei B525 - firmware guide to enable bridge mode and more.


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HUKD persuaded me to go with the 3 MBB, and this place persuaded me to get the B525 - so here's my go at giving something back... This doesn't depend on you using 3 - but I guess it's the current favourite given the price point.

Finally got around to "packing" something together to enable bridge mode + a lot more extra firmware options (such as selectively choosing what bands to use - I've actively disabled band 20 due to the speed decrease if it swaps to it).
My current setup uses this, teamed with a Virgin 350Mb connection. There's a slight overall speed increase, but it's the failover aspect which I was interested in and it works brilliantly.

This is only for the B525-23a. This model can be had cheaper and gives you all the bands in use in Europe.
Honestly, now that 5G is in full swing there is no benefit to the -65a in the UK/Europe as no new 4G bands are going to be certified. This firmware gives an awful lot more to the interface too, not just Bridge mode.

The big thing if you're doing this is you will need a USB-A to USB-A cable. This is a completely non-standard cable and doesn't conform to USB specifications. Fortunately, these cables are available from China or you can make one yourself. It's just how you access the firmware mode of the Huawei kit.

Firmware pack is here: mega.nz
All the info is in the readme file. Make sure you extract the full archive before running the commands.
Standard User mathew2
(member) Sat 11-May-19 17:48:14
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Came across your post as I'm looking in to ways to lock mine to a band. If it switches I get a stronger signal but much lower speeds due to the network not having carrier aggregation on the band. My method up to now has just been rebooting it everyday as it seems to go on to the band I want most times after a reboot! Bit of a PITA. Is the cable really necessary as there is a local update option on the admin page? See http://192.168.8.1/html/update_local.html

Thank you.

PS just been testing HManager and this seems to work for hopping between band 3 and 20. I don't know if it keeps it on 3 or if I'll have to use it every day or so when it hops on to band 20. Band 20 lucky if I get 10Mbps down, band 3 is 70+!

http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=51231

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Standard User barker04
(member) Sun 12-May-19 13:11:12
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Was looking at buying the B525 - in the hope it would simply do carrier aggregation where possible or choose fastest band by default. Is this not the case then ? Or possible to setup without using a 3rd party app?


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Standard User mathew2
(member) Mon 13-May-19 10:33:01
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After using HManager to put mine on band 3 it has stayed there all weekend so suspect it will stay on that band until rebooted. Good enough for me though it would be better if this was doable in the router's web interface without opening the casing and voiding the warranty!

The router doesn't know which is fastest I don't think so can hop onto a stronger signal that's slower. For me it's over 50% success for it dwelling on the faster band after a reboot; don't know why it does this.

To fix this it'd have to connect to and run a speedtest on all available bands in sequence before dwelling on a band (the CA band could be slower if congested I suppose so default looking for CA might not fix it).
Standard User barker04
(member) Mon 13-May-19 21:57:42
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I thought three did CA across all bands so therefore by default it would be fastest if it could do CA ?
Standard User biohead
(newbie) Sun 19-May-19 10:50:34
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The B525 and 3 does support CA. However, 3 haven't rolled it out to all areas yet.

To flash this firmware, you will need that USB cable as the firmware will not be accepted by the router built-in upgrade feature.
Standard User barker04
(member) Sun 19-May-19 14:47:56
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Oh so by default the b525 wont do CA in three without a firmware upgade?
Standard User biohead
(newbie) Mon 20-May-19 07:52:52
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Sorry, I might have explained that poorly.

The B525 will do CA with 3 out of the box - as long as it's talking to 3 masts that also support CA.

The firmware lets you lock to specific bands - in my case I don't get CA from my masts and it has a tenancy to drift to B20. This lets me lock it to B3.
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Wed 19-Jun-19 13:30:19
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Hi,

I've read this thread with interest as I have a B525s-23a, which I purchased as an open box product. It's branded three.ie and I believe that there are settings restrictions in the admin pages that I'd like to unlock.

The current settings do not allow me to fix the band, but I have got around that with LTEInspecteur

I now find that I'm unable to fully use the phone function - I've plugged my old land-line in and can receive calls to it, but not make them. After some looking around online I get the impression that there are some VoLTE settings which are disabled in my firmware, so I'm looking to unlock them and I wondered if this firmware would do the trick.

I'm also a bit put off by what's involved in updating the firmware, and like a previous poster I wonder if it is not possible to do it via the local update page of the router settings?

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Standard User hoopla
(member) Fri 21-Jun-19 23:02:27
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I had no trouble using the local file firmware upgrade, but I did that to get bridge mode, which doesn't work. I needn't have bothered.
Guess Huawei removed it because it was crop. (for o read a)
I can't find the original firmware to go back. Huawei support don't actually support.
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Sun 23-Jun-19 08:36:53
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In reply to a post by hoopla:
I had no trouble using the local file firmware upgrade, but I did that to get bridge mode, which doesn't work. I needn't have bothered.

In reply to a post by hoopla:
Thanks for replying, that's a right pain for you that you can't get bridge mode happening. It's amazing how little support there is from Huawei.

Please could you clarify a couple of points that could help my plight to get the phone side of thing working?

I'm given to understand that some versions of the firmware have a "VoLTE" under "Settings"

Do you know if yours had this before / after you updated the firmware?

Mine has "Three.ie" branding on the admin pages and lists the following:

Device name: B525s-23a
Hardware version: WL1B520FM
Software version: 11.187.61.01.25
Web UI version: 21.100.38.00.03


Which file did you select to perform the update, I'm guessing it's the one in the \bin\ folder

"B525s-23a_UPDATE_11.182.61.00.778_DBU.bin"


Thanks for your assistance...
Standard User hoopla
(member) Wed 26-Jun-19 14:09:50
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I can't see how VoLTE could work on a data-only device. There is no VoLTE item in Settings. However, there is a Voip menu under settings. And the VOIP works brilliantly, coexisting with other VOIP devices on the network.

I have:
Device name: B525s-23a
Hardware version: WL1B520FM
Software version: 11.182.61.00.778
Web UI version: 21.100.37.00.03_Mod1.5

The update file I used was probably the one you list: I forget.
I wish I could go back to the original firmware tht came with the thing.
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Wed 26-Jun-19 14:45:08
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In reply to a post by hoopla:
I can't see how VoLTE could work on a data-only device. There is no VoLTE item in Settings. However, there is a Voip menu under settings. And the VOIP works brilliantly, coexisting with other VOIP devices on the network.

I have:
Device name: B525s-23a
Hardware version: WL1B520FM
Software version: 11.182.61.00.778
Web UI version: 21.100.37.00.03_Mod1.5

The update file I used was probably the one you list: I forget.
I wish I could go back to the original firmware tht came with the thing.


Thanks for that. I'm just trying to get my old landline phone handset working through it so I can make use of the unlimited minutes that came with my Three contract. I've plugged it into the phone socket on the back of the B525 and incoming calls have always worked fine but I can't dial out. Someone suggested that it would be under VoLTE settings, but not having that or VoIP options in my menus I'm not getting anywhere.

I'm tempted to try this alternative firmware, but not being able to revert to the original certainly puts me off trying.
Standard User lincsat
(learned) Wed 26-Jun-19 18:35:35
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Google finds a repository of Firmware for this device here - ftp://serv.valdikss.org.ru/Downloads/Huawei_Firmware...

Not tried any myself.
Standard User hoopla
(member) Sat 29-Jun-19 18:58:55
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That's interesting, but the one I'd like to find is 11.232.05.00.778 - which is what mine came with in the first place
Standard User hoopla
(member) Sat 29-Jun-19 18:59:52
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Even if you get voip working through it, you won't be using the free minutes on the sim.
Standard User hoopla
(member) Sat 29-Jun-19 20:23:29
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Getting back to your VOIP settings, do you normally use the same provider for incoming and outgoing calls?
For several years, incoming arrive through one provider, and outgoing are carried on a variety of different ones, depending on who is cheaper for that call.
I have it all set up in my Fritz.box which is good on VOIP, but when I was testing the B525 I simply plugged the phone into it, and used the same provider for incoming and outgoing. It worked beautifully.
The probem is that although it let me add a second SIP server to the B525 config, I was only able to set up one SIP account, so I couldn't use the second server.
So I simply plugged the Fritz.box into the network and used that, with all its built-in VOIP cleverness and its dialling rules configured.
Which VOIP provider are you using?
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Mon 01-Jul-19 09:30:35
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In reply to a post by hoopla:
Getting back to your VOIP settings, do you normally use the same provider for incoming and outgoing calls?
For several years, incoming arrive through one provider, and outgoing are carried on a variety of different ones, depending on who is cheaper for that call.
I have it all set up in my Fritz.box which is good on VOIP, but when I was testing the B525 I simply plugged the phone into it, and used the same provider for incoming and outgoing. It worked beautifully.
The probem is that although it let me add a second SIP server to the B525 config, I was only able to set up one SIP account, so I couldn't use the second server.
So I simply plugged the Fritz.box into the network and used that, with all its built-in VOIP cleverness and its dialling rules configured.
Which VOIP provider are you using?


This is exposing my considerable ignorance with all of this!

I have inclusive unlimited minutes with the unlimited data of my Three SIM package. I've plugged my old landline handset into the router and it happily receives calls to the SIM's number, I just can't work out what, if anything I can do to call out.

In all honesty I haven't got a clue whether what I'm trying to set up is VoIP or VoLTE, or if my router can even achieve what I'm hoping it can. I also appreciate that hijacking a topic about enabling bridge mode probably isn't the best way to go about getting a solution!

As always, any steer in the right direction is greatly appreciated.
Standard User hoopla
(member) Tue 02-Jul-19 11:42:26
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I'm frankly amazed that it receives calls to the sim's number. That's not what I'd expect. I'll try it on mine, if I can find a handset to plug in and I can work out my sim''s phone number.
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Tue 02-Jul-19 11:50:16
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It's weird isn't it?

If it helps at all the SIM's number is shown in the router admin page:

Settings->System->Device Information->My Number
Standard User hoopla
(member) Tue 02-Jul-19 11:53:57
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Well, colour me gobsmacked!

It works for incoming and outgoing calls, though the outgoing call took about 8 seconds to connect - which seems a very long time indeed when you are just hearing silence.

However, my sim doesn't have any inclusive minutes.
Standard User mb1
(newbie) Tue 02-Jul-19 14:16:29
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I've been reading this thread with interest since purchasing a Three SIM and a Huawei B525 router. I also purchased a Poynting Omni, but I think that was a waste of money to be honest, as my speeds don't seem to have changed much. Worse if anything (especially with the new holes in the wall to get the cables through).

What is frustrating me - and I hope someone can help - is the sheer lack of information for this router. I can't even find a manual that explains how to set up the Speed Dial function.

I also have a VoIP account with FreeVoIPdeal and I'm not sure whether the router routes calls via this or the Three SIM card. There seems to be no information on which one comes first. Again, no details about it online from what i can find. I also get the 8 second delay before it calls, but it doesn't bother me particularly.

Most annoying of all though is the router's inability to now drop from 4G back to 3G for incoming calls. They were going to straight to Voicemail, but I've asked Three to swtich that off and they now get an engaged tone.

It was working previously and falling back, but stopped around a week ago. Any ideas? I've tried most if not all of the UMTS/LTE settings and the only reliable one is to force it to 3G/UMTS only.

This has the added advantage of more reliable speeds on 3G, where I seem to have contention issues if I have 4G and the speed isn't as good during the day.

It's all a bit annoying really, as this was supposed to be progress - especially with the speed - from my old fixed fibre landline broadband!
Standard User hoopla
(member) Tue 02-Jul-19 17:04:49
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Setting up the speed dial is easy. Fill in the speed dial short number, the actual number to call, the name and click OK then click Apply.
Doesn't work for me through VOIP, but it might do through the sim if I still had a phone plugged into the router.
If you've set up VOIP details, I expect it will route through that. Easy to tell: can your mobile and see what number is calling.
Mine worked perfectly well in 4G in an incoming call. Perhaps it is to do with the Three service area.
I have a directional antenna, because I have clear line of sight to more than one base station. Works brilliantly: signal level mostly varies between >=-51 and -55dBm, SINR usually around 10dB to 13dB but sometimes it drops to 0.
The antenna is sitting inside an upstairs window. I expect outdoors would be better, but that means climbing a ladder.

Edited by hoopla (Tue 02-Jul-19 17:07:50)

Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Wed 03-Jul-19 09:51:13
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In reply to a post by hoopla:
Well, colour me gobsmacked!

It works for incoming and outgoing calls, though the outgoing call took about 8 seconds to connect - which seems a very long time indeed when you are just hearing silence.

However, my sim doesn't have any inclusive minutes.


After reading that (particularly that an outgoing call took a long time to connect) I just tried it again myself and it works - I just had to wait 25 seconds after dialing (!)

So after all that, everything works without me having to do anything other than be a bit more patient!

Thanks for your help.
Standard User lincsat
(learned) Wed 03-Jul-19 12:36:49
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I wonder if the delay is because there isn't an equivalent of a send button on a standard wired handset and the delay is the router waiting for a key press.
Standard User woodmass14
(committed) Wed 03-Jul-19 14:25:57
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Is this the firmware you're looking for.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ll9ieqqooyhy5/Docum...

Source information. Polish forum. Has a lot of information on the b525. A lot of tutorials on bridge mode and the such. 44 pages of it.

http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=50771&p...

You'll need to use google translate, of course smile
Standard User hoopla
(member) Thu 04-Jul-19 13:03:10
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might be worth trying a # at the end of the number
Standard User hoopla
(member) Thu 04-Jul-19 13:30:01
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In reply to a post by woodmass14:
Is this the firmware you're looking for.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ll9ieqqooyhy5/Docum...

Yes, that's the one, but it won't update to that using the "local update" facility.
I may have to try the more complicated method - but only when I've recovered from my flu
Standard User hoopla
(member) Sat 06-Jul-19 16:46:42
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However, my sim doesn't have any inclusive minutes.
Even better: I was wrong about that too.
I was planning to sign up for the business deal, which is a few pounds cheaper per month, but needed far too much paperwork. That had no inclusive minutes or texts.
In the end I got a retail verson (no paperwork needed) which has unlimited texts and minutes.
Standard User dect
(committed) Thu 11-Jul-19 19:00:52
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In reply to a post by DualingAunts:
In reply to a post by hoopla:
Well, colour me gobsmacked!

It works for incoming and outgoing calls, though the outgoing call took about 8 seconds to connect - which seems a very long time indeed when you are just hearing silence.

However, my sim doesn't have any inclusive minutes.


After reading that (particularly that an outgoing call took a long time to connect) I just tried it again myself and it works - I just had to wait 25 seconds after dialing (!)

So after all that, everything works without me having to do anything other than be a bit more patient!

Thanks for your help.
This is very interesting, Just so I understand correctly, if you put a standard household handset in the back of the B525 with no special configuration (e.g. VOIP) you can use the sim number for outgoing and incoming calls (credit permitting). I thought the B525 had a RJ11 on the back rather than a standard BT socket, do you have to do anything special with the cable between router and phone? what sort of dial tone do you get when you pick up the handset?
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Fri 12-Jul-19 10:56:44
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Hi dect,

Yes exactly that, my land-line phone is a Panasonic cordless jobbie with an RJ11 socket on the base unit, previously I was using a RJ11 to BT cable to the BT master socket. With the B525, I'm using a RJ11-RJ11 lead that I had knocking about, I've taken a photo of it, you'll see that the middle two wires are crossed over
The dial tone sounds wrong, like old BT tone when it times out, but aside from that and the 20 second wait when calling, it all works ok. I can also report that pressing # after dialing doesn't speed things up.
Standard User dect
(committed) Fri 12-Jul-19 17:24:52
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In reply to a post by DualingAunts:
Hi dect,

Yes exactly that, my land-line phone is a Panasonic cordless jobbie with an RJ11 socket on the base unit, previously I was using a RJ11 to BT cable to the BT master socket. With the B525, I'm using a RJ11-RJ11 lead that I had knocking about, I've taken a photo of it, you'll see that the middle two wires are crossed over
The dial tone sounds wrong, like old BT tone when it times out, but aside from that and the 20 second wait when calling, it all works ok. I can also report that pressing # after dialing doesn't speed things up.
Thanks for this information

Looks like this functionality may be disabled in later firmware versions, I told a friend and they tried it with B525 firmware version 11.236.01.00.1217 and they get an engaged tone when picking the handset up but they can't break the tone when dialing the number, it also goes straight to voicemail with incoming calls.
Standard User gary333
(member) Fri 09-Aug-19 08:48:41
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I have now tried HManager and LTEInsepctuer as mentioned in this thread. I am a little concerned about how secure these tools are - do people know if they have a good reputation?

My issue.

I wanted to be able to make phone calls using a standard DECT phone and the built in RJ11 port. This works out of the box, however it returns to 3G network to make call. When the call is ended it then returns to 4G, however locks on to band 20 and not band 3. This also means that carrier aggregation doesn't work. Less than 50% of the time it does switch to band 3, but i needed this to be everytime.

Side note, when carrier aggregation is active (4G+) the deivce will NOT allow incoming calls as it does not switch back to 3G to receieve the call. Odd piece of coding by Huaewei.

Findings (Three/Smarty network):

HManager allows you to change bands, however does not allow the B525 to remain in 'Auto' mode. It needs to be in this to make & receieve calls. So this didn't work for me

LTE Inspectuer allowed me to keep device in auto but manually lock band 3. This allows the B525 to drop back to 3G and then return to band 3 bypassing band 20. Only issue here is that carrier aggregation is now lost. Not a big issue as band 20 around here s very slow and non of the other bands are being aggregated. This selection is retained even when router is restarted
Standard User lincsat
(regular) Tue 13-Aug-19 17:30:06
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I've tried this Today but can't seem to boot the router into USB mode, it just boots into standard mode. Is there some indication when it's in USB mode? I keep the pins bridged for about 45 seconds but the lights follow the normal sequence. I'm assuming it's the pads labelled Boot and Ground in the picture?
Standard User lincsat
(regular) Tue 13-Aug-19 18:15:58
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As an update, I managed to get into USB mode but only by booting with the USB connected to my Lappy, couldn't get it to work without.
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