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Standard User biohead
(newbie) Sat 13-Apr-19 14:42:59
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Huawei B525 - firmware guide to enable bridge mode and more.


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HUKD persuaded me to go with the 3 MBB, and this place persuaded me to get the B525 - so here's my go at giving something back... This doesn't depend on you using 3 - but I guess it's the current favourite given the price point.

Finally got around to "packing" something together to enable bridge mode + a lot more extra firmware options (such as selectively choosing what bands to use - I've actively disabled band 20 due to the speed decrease if it swaps to it).
My current setup uses this, teamed with a Virgin 350Mb connection. There's a slight overall speed increase, but it's the failover aspect which I was interested in and it works brilliantly.

This is only for the B525-23a. This model can be had cheaper and gives you all the bands in use in Europe.
Honestly, now that 5G is in full swing there is no benefit to the -65a in the UK/Europe as no new 4G bands are going to be certified. This firmware gives an awful lot more to the interface too, not just Bridge mode.

The big thing if you're doing this is you will need a USB-A to USB-A cable. This is a completely non-standard cable and doesn't conform to USB specifications. Fortunately, these cables are available from China or you can make one yourself. It's just how you access the firmware mode of the Huawei kit.

Firmware pack is here: mega.nz
All the info is in the readme file. Make sure you extract the full archive before running the commands.
Standard User mathew2
(member) Sat 11-May-19 17:48:14
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Came across your post as I'm looking in to ways to lock mine to a band. If it switches I get a stronger signal but much lower speeds due to the network not having carrier aggregation on the band. My method up to now has just been rebooting it everyday as it seems to go on to the band I want most times after a reboot! Bit of a PITA. Is the cable really necessary as there is a local update option on the admin page? See http://192.168.8.1/html/update_local.html

Thank you.

PS just been testing HManager and this seems to work for hopping between band 3 and 20. I don't know if it keeps it on 3 or if I'll have to use it every day or so when it hops on to band 20. Band 20 lucky if I get 10Mbps down, band 3 is 70+!

http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=51231

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Standard User barker04
(member) Sun 12-May-19 13:11:12
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Was looking at buying the B525 - in the hope it would simply do carrier aggregation where possible or choose fastest band by default. Is this not the case then ? Or possible to setup without using a 3rd party app?


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Standard User mathew2
(member) Mon 13-May-19 10:33:01
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After using HManager to put mine on band 3 it has stayed there all weekend so suspect it will stay on that band until rebooted. Good enough for me though it would be better if this was doable in the router's web interface without opening the casing and voiding the warranty!

The router doesn't know which is fastest I don't think so can hop onto a stronger signal that's slower. For me it's over 50% success for it dwelling on the faster band after a reboot; don't know why it does this.

To fix this it'd have to connect to and run a speedtest on all available bands in sequence before dwelling on a band (the CA band could be slower if congested I suppose so default looking for CA might not fix it).
Standard User barker04
(member) Mon 13-May-19 21:57:42
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I thought three did CA across all bands so therefore by default it would be fastest if it could do CA ?
Standard User biohead
(newbie) Sun 19-May-19 10:50:34
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The B525 and 3 does support CA. However, 3 haven't rolled it out to all areas yet.

To flash this firmware, you will need that USB cable as the firmware will not be accepted by the router built-in upgrade feature.
Standard User barker04
(member) Sun 19-May-19 14:47:56
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Oh so by default the b525 wont do CA in three without a firmware upgade?
Standard User biohead
(newbie) Mon 20-May-19 07:52:52
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Sorry, I might have explained that poorly.

The B525 will do CA with 3 out of the box - as long as it's talking to 3 masts that also support CA.

The firmware lets you lock to specific bands - in my case I don't get CA from my masts and it has a tenancy to drift to B20. This lets me lock it to B3.
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Wed 19-Jun-19 13:30:19
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Hi,

I've read this thread with interest as I have a B525s-23a, which I purchased as an open box product. It's branded three.ie and I believe that there are settings restrictions in the admin pages that I'd like to unlock.

The current settings do not allow me to fix the band, but I have got around that with LTEInspecteur

I now find that I'm unable to fully use the phone function - I've plugged my old land-line in and can receive calls to it, but not make them. After some looking around online I get the impression that there are some VoLTE settings which are disabled in my firmware, so I'm looking to unlock them and I wondered if this firmware would do the trick.

I'm also a bit put off by what's involved in updating the firmware, and like a previous poster I wonder if it is not possible to do it via the local update page of the router settings?

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Standard User hoopla
(member) Fri 21-Jun-19 23:02:27
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I had no trouble using the local file firmware upgrade, but I did that to get bridge mode, which doesn't work. I needn't have bothered.
Guess Huawei removed it because it was crop. (for o read a)
I can't find the original firmware to go back. Huawei support don't actually support.
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Sun 23-Jun-19 08:36:53
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In reply to a post by hoopla:
I had no trouble using the local file firmware upgrade, but I did that to get bridge mode, which doesn't work. I needn't have bothered.

In reply to a post by hoopla:
Thanks for replying, that's a right pain for you that you can't get bridge mode happening. It's amazing how little support there is from Huawei.

Please could you clarify a couple of points that could help my plight to get the phone side of thing working?

I'm given to understand that some versions of the firmware have a "VoLTE" under "Settings"

Do you know if yours had this before / after you updated the firmware?

Mine has "Three.ie" branding on the admin pages and lists the following:

Device name: B525s-23a
Hardware version: WL1B520FM
Software version: 11.187.61.01.25
Web UI version: 21.100.38.00.03


Which file did you select to perform the update, I'm guessing it's the one in the \bin\ folder

"B525s-23a_UPDATE_11.182.61.00.778_DBU.bin"


Thanks for your assistance...
Standard User hoopla
(member) Wed 26-Jun-19 14:09:50
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I can't see how VoLTE could work on a data-only device. There is no VoLTE item in Settings. However, there is a Voip menu under settings. And the VOIP works brilliantly, coexisting with other VOIP devices on the network.

I have:
Device name: B525s-23a
Hardware version: WL1B520FM
Software version: 11.182.61.00.778
Web UI version: 21.100.37.00.03_Mod1.5

The update file I used was probably the one you list: I forget.
I wish I could go back to the original firmware tht came with the thing.
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Wed 26-Jun-19 14:45:08
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In reply to a post by hoopla:
I can't see how VoLTE could work on a data-only device. There is no VoLTE item in Settings. However, there is a Voip menu under settings. And the VOIP works brilliantly, coexisting with other VOIP devices on the network.

I have:
Device name: B525s-23a
Hardware version: WL1B520FM
Software version: 11.182.61.00.778
Web UI version: 21.100.37.00.03_Mod1.5

The update file I used was probably the one you list: I forget.
I wish I could go back to the original firmware tht came with the thing.


Thanks for that. I'm just trying to get my old landline phone handset working through it so I can make use of the unlimited minutes that came with my Three contract. I've plugged it into the phone socket on the back of the B525 and incoming calls have always worked fine but I can't dial out. Someone suggested that it would be under VoLTE settings, but not having that or VoIP options in my menus I'm not getting anywhere.

I'm tempted to try this alternative firmware, but not being able to revert to the original certainly puts me off trying.
Standard User lincsat
(learned) Wed 26-Jun-19 18:35:35
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Google finds a repository of Firmware for this device here - ftp://serv.valdikss.org.ru/Downloads/Huawei_Firmware...

Not tried any myself.
Standard User hoopla
(member) Sat 29-Jun-19 18:58:55
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That's interesting, but the one I'd like to find is 11.232.05.00.778 - which is what mine came with in the first place
Standard User hoopla
(member) Sat 29-Jun-19 18:59:52
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Even if you get voip working through it, you won't be using the free minutes on the sim.
Standard User hoopla
(member) Sat 29-Jun-19 20:23:29
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Getting back to your VOIP settings, do you normally use the same provider for incoming and outgoing calls?
For several years, incoming arrive through one provider, and outgoing are carried on a variety of different ones, depending on who is cheaper for that call.
I have it all set up in my Fritz.box which is good on VOIP, but when I was testing the B525 I simply plugged the phone into it, and used the same provider for incoming and outgoing. It worked beautifully.
The probem is that although it let me add a second SIP server to the B525 config, I was only able to set up one SIP account, so I couldn't use the second server.
So I simply plugged the Fritz.box into the network and used that, with all its built-in VOIP cleverness and its dialling rules configured.
Which VOIP provider are you using?
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Mon 01-Jul-19 09:30:35
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In reply to a post by hoopla:
Getting back to your VOIP settings, do you normally use the same provider for incoming and outgoing calls?
For several years, incoming arrive through one provider, and outgoing are carried on a variety of different ones, depending on who is cheaper for that call.
I have it all set up in my Fritz.box which is good on VOIP, but when I was testing the B525 I simply plugged the phone into it, and used the same provider for incoming and outgoing. It worked beautifully.
The probem is that although it let me add a second SIP server to the B525 config, I was only able to set up one SIP account, so I couldn't use the second server.
So I simply plugged the Fritz.box into the network and used that, with all its built-in VOIP cleverness and its dialling rules configured.
Which VOIP provider are you using?


This is exposing my considerable ignorance with all of this!

I have inclusive unlimited minutes with the unlimited data of my Three SIM package. I've plugged my old landline handset into the router and it happily receives calls to the SIM's number, I just can't work out what, if anything I can do to call out.

In all honesty I haven't got a clue whether what I'm trying to set up is VoIP or VoLTE, or if my router can even achieve what I'm hoping it can. I also appreciate that hijacking a topic about enabling bridge mode probably isn't the best way to go about getting a solution!

As always, any steer in the right direction is greatly appreciated.
Standard User hoopla
(member) Tue 02-Jul-19 11:42:26
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I'm frankly amazed that it receives calls to the sim's number. That's not what I'd expect. I'll try it on mine, if I can find a handset to plug in and I can work out my sim''s phone number.
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Tue 02-Jul-19 11:50:16
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It's weird isn't it?

If it helps at all the SIM's number is shown in the router admin page:

Settings->System->Device Information->My Number
Standard User hoopla
(member) Tue 02-Jul-19 11:53:57
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Well, colour me gobsmacked!

It works for incoming and outgoing calls, though the outgoing call took about 8 seconds to connect - which seems a very long time indeed when you are just hearing silence.

However, my sim doesn't have any inclusive minutes.
Standard User mb1
(newbie) Tue 02-Jul-19 14:16:29
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I've been reading this thread with interest since purchasing a Three SIM and a Huawei B525 router. I also purchased a Poynting Omni, but I think that was a waste of money to be honest, as my speeds don't seem to have changed much. Worse if anything (especially with the new holes in the wall to get the cables through).

What is frustrating me - and I hope someone can help - is the sheer lack of information for this router. I can't even find a manual that explains how to set up the Speed Dial function.

I also have a VoIP account with FreeVoIPdeal and I'm not sure whether the router routes calls via this or the Three SIM card. There seems to be no information on which one comes first. Again, no details about it online from what i can find. I also get the 8 second delay before it calls, but it doesn't bother me particularly.

Most annoying of all though is the router's inability to now drop from 4G back to 3G for incoming calls. They were going to straight to Voicemail, but I've asked Three to swtich that off and they now get an engaged tone.

It was working previously and falling back, but stopped around a week ago. Any ideas? I've tried most if not all of the UMTS/LTE settings and the only reliable one is to force it to 3G/UMTS only.

This has the added advantage of more reliable speeds on 3G, where I seem to have contention issues if I have 4G and the speed isn't as good during the day.

It's all a bit annoying really, as this was supposed to be progress - especially with the speed - from my old fixed fibre landline broadband!
Standard User hoopla
(member) Tue 02-Jul-19 17:04:49
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Setting up the speed dial is easy. Fill in the speed dial short number, the actual number to call, the name and click OK then click Apply.
Doesn't work for me through VOIP, but it might do through the sim if I still had a phone plugged into the router.
If you've set up VOIP details, I expect it will route through that. Easy to tell: can your mobile and see what number is calling.
Mine worked perfectly well in 4G in an incoming call. Perhaps it is to do with the Three service area.
I have a directional antenna, because I have clear line of sight to more than one base station. Works brilliantly: signal level mostly varies between >=-51 and -55dBm, SINR usually around 10dB to 13dB but sometimes it drops to 0.
The antenna is sitting inside an upstairs window. I expect outdoors would be better, but that means climbing a ladder.

Edited by hoopla (Tue 02-Jul-19 17:07:50)

Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Wed 03-Jul-19 09:51:13
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[re: hoopla] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by hoopla:
Well, colour me gobsmacked!

It works for incoming and outgoing calls, though the outgoing call took about 8 seconds to connect - which seems a very long time indeed when you are just hearing silence.

However, my sim doesn't have any inclusive minutes.


After reading that (particularly that an outgoing call took a long time to connect) I just tried it again myself and it works - I just had to wait 25 seconds after dialing (!)

So after all that, everything works without me having to do anything other than be a bit more patient!

Thanks for your help.
Standard User lincsat
(learned) Wed 03-Jul-19 12:36:49
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I wonder if the delay is because there isn't an equivalent of a send button on a standard wired handset and the delay is the router waiting for a key press.
Standard User woodmass14
(committed) Wed 03-Jul-19 14:25:57
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Is this the firmware you're looking for.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ll9ieqqooyhy5/Docum...

Source information. Polish forum. Has a lot of information on the b525. A lot of tutorials on bridge mode and the such. 44 pages of it.

http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=50771&p...

You'll need to use google translate, of course smile
Standard User hoopla
(member) Thu 04-Jul-19 13:03:10
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might be worth trying a # at the end of the number
Standard User hoopla
(member) Thu 04-Jul-19 13:30:01
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In reply to a post by woodmass14:
Is this the firmware you're looking for.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ll9ieqqooyhy5/Docum...

Yes, that's the one, but it won't update to that using the "local update" facility.
I may have to try the more complicated method - but only when I've recovered from my flu
Standard User hoopla
(member) Sat 06-Jul-19 16:46:42
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However, my sim doesn't have any inclusive minutes.
Even better: I was wrong about that too.
I was planning to sign up for the business deal, which is a few pounds cheaper per month, but needed far too much paperwork. That had no inclusive minutes or texts.
In the end I got a retail verson (no paperwork needed) which has unlimited texts and minutes.
Standard User dect
(committed) Thu 11-Jul-19 19:00:52
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In reply to a post by DualingAunts:
In reply to a post by hoopla:
Well, colour me gobsmacked!

It works for incoming and outgoing calls, though the outgoing call took about 8 seconds to connect - which seems a very long time indeed when you are just hearing silence.

However, my sim doesn't have any inclusive minutes.


After reading that (particularly that an outgoing call took a long time to connect) I just tried it again myself and it works - I just had to wait 25 seconds after dialing (!)

So after all that, everything works without me having to do anything other than be a bit more patient!

Thanks for your help.
This is very interesting, Just so I understand correctly, if you put a standard household handset in the back of the B525 with no special configuration (e.g. VOIP) you can use the sim number for outgoing and incoming calls (credit permitting). I thought the B525 had a RJ11 on the back rather than a standard BT socket, do you have to do anything special with the cable between router and phone? what sort of dial tone do you get when you pick up the handset?
Standard User DualingAunts
(newbie) Fri 12-Jul-19 10:56:44
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Hi dect,

Yes exactly that, my land-line phone is a Panasonic cordless jobbie with an RJ11 socket on the base unit, previously I was using a RJ11 to BT cable to the BT master socket. With the B525, I'm using a RJ11-RJ11 lead that I had knocking about, I've taken a photo of it, you'll see that the middle two wires are crossed over
The dial tone sounds wrong, like old BT tone when it times out, but aside from that and the 20 second wait when calling, it all works ok. I can also report that pressing # after dialing doesn't speed things up.
Standard User dect
(committed) Fri 12-Jul-19 17:24:52
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In reply to a post by DualingAunts:
Hi dect,

Yes exactly that, my land-line phone is a Panasonic cordless jobbie with an RJ11 socket on the base unit, previously I was using a RJ11 to BT cable to the BT master socket. With the B525, I'm using a RJ11-RJ11 lead that I had knocking about, I've taken a photo of it, you'll see that the middle two wires are crossed over
The dial tone sounds wrong, like old BT tone when it times out, but aside from that and the 20 second wait when calling, it all works ok. I can also report that pressing # after dialing doesn't speed things up.
Thanks for this information

Looks like this functionality may be disabled in later firmware versions, I told a friend and they tried it with B525 firmware version 11.236.01.00.1217 and they get an engaged tone when picking the handset up but they can't break the tone when dialing the number, it also goes straight to voicemail with incoming calls.
Standard User gary333
(member) Fri 09-Aug-19 08:48:41
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I have now tried HManager and LTEInsepctuer as mentioned in this thread. I am a little concerned about how secure these tools are - do people know if they have a good reputation?

My issue.

I wanted to be able to make phone calls using a standard DECT phone and the built in RJ11 port. This works out of the box, however it returns to 3G network to make call. When the call is ended it then returns to 4G, however locks on to band 20 and not band 3. This also means that carrier aggregation doesn't work. Less than 50% of the time it does switch to band 3, but i needed this to be everytime.

Side note, when carrier aggregation is active (4G+) the deivce will NOT allow incoming calls as it does not switch back to 3G to receieve the call. Odd piece of coding by Huaewei.

Findings (Three/Smarty network):

HManager allows you to change bands, however does not allow the B525 to remain in 'Auto' mode. It needs to be in this to make & receieve calls. So this didn't work for me

LTE Inspectuer allowed me to keep device in auto but manually lock band 3. This allows the B525 to drop back to 3G and then return to band 3 bypassing band 20. Only issue here is that carrier aggregation is now lost. Not a big issue as band 20 around here s very slow and non of the other bands are being aggregated. This selection is retained even when router is restarted
Standard User lincsat
(regular) Tue 13-Aug-19 17:30:06
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I've tried this Today but can't seem to boot the router into USB mode, it just boots into standard mode. Is there some indication when it's in USB mode? I keep the pins bridged for about 45 seconds but the lights follow the normal sequence. I'm assuming it's the pads labelled Boot and Ground in the picture?
Standard User lincsat
(regular) Tue 13-Aug-19 18:15:58
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As an update, I managed to get into USB mode but only by booting with the USB connected to my Lappy, couldn't get it to work without.
Standard User Damoxz
(newbie) Wed 11-Sep-19 18:54:26
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Hi all,

I have this router and I'm in Ireland with the 3 network but on the web interface it has 3 interface as it is locked to 3. I'm wondering do I have to flash the original firmware (from Huawei) first onto the router before I flash this firmware?

Thanks.
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(newbie) Tue 01-Oct-19 22:38:04
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Standard User dect
(committed) Wed 02-Oct-19 08:54:05
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In reply to a post by yerzu:
- change band and force aggregation (FDD/TDD)
Interesting, the only Huawei B525 API I am aware of that configures the network settings for band, frequency and mode is net-mode can you confirm what API configures aggregation as everything I have read states there isn't one?
Standard User yerzu
(newbie) Wed 02-Oct-19 08:57:13
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This is only for HiLink routers (modems).
Standard User dect
(committed) Wed 02-Oct-19 09:08:56
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In reply to a post by yerzu:
This is only for HiLink routers (modems).
So it can't configure aggregation on B525? can you give models where it will work?
Standard User yerzu
(newbie) Wed 02-Oct-19 09:28:43
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B525 is HiLink. Probably any router is HiLink (modems can be some NDIS or something else - without web GUI). In conclusion - if You have web GUI (entering address like 192.168.8.1 or 192.168.1.1 etc.) then You have HiLink version and You can use my app.
Standard User dect
(committed) Wed 02-Oct-19 09:48:02
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In reply to a post by yerzu:
B525 is HiLink. Probably any router is HiLink (modems can be some NDIS or something else - without web GUI). In conclusion - if You have web GUI (entering address like 192.168.8.1 or 192.168.1.1 etc.) then You have HiLink version and You can use my app.
I appreciate your polish but you're not making sense, I said in my previous post that I do not believe there is a Huawei B525 API that configures aggregation.
Standard User yerzu
(newbie) Wed 02-Oct-19 13:18:05
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Sorry I not readed to end Your post and my answer it: yes API net-mode allows to change band and enable auto aggregation and forced aggregation (f.e 900+1800). If Yours BTS supports aggregation then it should work.

First of all You must force band to connect with propper BTS and then change band to that allows aggregate bands - thats all.
In my app aggregation is labeled LTE+ and enables during download (like on sample screen in google store).
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(committed) Wed 02-Oct-19 15:05:43
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yes API net-mode allows to change band and enable auto aggregation and forced aggregation (f.e 900+1800).
The Huawei B525 API net-mode only takes three parameters (NetworkMode, NetworkBand and LTEBand).

NetworkMode can be 01 for 2G, 02 for 3G and 03 for 4G

NetworkBand is the value for the 3G band, when not in use it is set to 3FFFFFFF

LTEBand is the value for the primary LTE bands available to the router this is not anything to do with aggregation, when not in use its set to 7FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

For example

if you want to lock it to only band 20 on 4G you would pass the following parameters
03, 3FFFFFFF, 80000

if you want to restrict/limit it to band 3 or band 20 on 4G you would pass the following parameters
03, 3FFFFFFF, 80004

Edited by dect (Wed 02-Oct-19 15:10:29)

Standard User yerzu
(newbie) Wed 02-Oct-19 15:20:13
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In reply to a post by dect:
if you want to lock it to only band 20 on 4G you would pass the following parameters
03, 3FFFFFFF, 80000

if you want to restrict/limit it to band 3 or band 20 on 4G you would pass the following parameters
03, 3FFFFFFF, 80004


Yes! Code 80004 locks to 800+1800 and run aggregation if its supported by BTS.

Link to my app is deleted by admin. If someone want to check this app please search in google play "huaCtrl".

Edited by yerzu (Wed 02-Oct-19 15:24:48)

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[re: yerzu] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by yerzu:
In reply to a post by dect:
if you want to lock it to only band 20 on 4G you would pass the following parameters
03, 3FFFFFFF, 80000

if you want to restrict/limit it to band 3 or band 20 on 4G you would pass the following parameters
03, 3FFFFFFF, 80004


Yes! Code 80004 locks to 800+1800 and run aggregation if its supported by BTS.

Link to my app is deleted by admin. If someone want to check this app please search in google play "huaCtrl".
The decision to aggregate is done by the mobile network (aka BTS) not the Huawei B525 routers configuration. Even if you lock a Huawei B525 to just band 20 it will still aggregate with other bands if the mobile network tells it too.

There in nothing in the Huawei B525 configuration that can be changed (locally or via an app) to stop or allow aggregation that is the important thing for everyone to know.
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(newbie) Wed 02-Oct-19 16:43:29
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There in nothing in the Huawei B525 configuration that can be changed (locally or via an app) to stop or allow aggregation that is the important thing for everyone to know.


Why You are talking about something without tests? I tested this and if I set band to only 1800 then aggregation not fire up (api/monitoring/status returns 101) and then if I set 900+1800 (in my case) then api returns status 1011 which means agg is applied.

Edited by yerzu (Wed 02-Oct-19 16:45:06)

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In reply to a post by yerzu:
In reply to a post by dect:
There in nothing in the Huawei B525 configuration that can be changed (locally or via an app) to stop or allow aggregation that is the important thing for everyone to know.


Why You are talking about something without tests? I tested this and if I set band to only 1800 then aggregation not fire up (api/monitoring/status returns 101) and then if I set 900+1800 (in my case) then api returns status 1011 which means agg is applied.
What I am saying is not new, it is very well documented in the polish Huawei B525 forums. If you disagree maybe you should take it up with your fellow country men as they are far more cleverer than me.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 02-Oct-19 17:51:20
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I wonder if anyone knows what Permissions yerzu's own app requests/needs Ö?

Note that the direct link post was deleted. The one with the name of the app is still present, plus a quote of that.

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From the Play Store listing:

- view network connections
- full network access
- prevent device from sleeping
Standard User gary333
(member) Wed 02-Oct-19 19:17:54
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[re: dect] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by dect:
In reply to a post by yerzu:
In reply to a post by dect:
if you want to lock it to only band 20 on 4G you would pass the following parameters
03, 3FFFFFFF, 80000

if you want to restrict/limit it to band 3 or band 20 on 4G you would pass the following parameters
03, 3FFFFFFF, 80004


Yes! Code 80004 locks to 800+1800 and run aggregation if its supported by BTS.

Link to my app is deleted by admin. If someone want to check this app please search in google play "huaCtrl".
The decision to aggregate is done by the mobile network (aka BTS) not the Huawei B525 routers configuration. Even if you lock a Huawei B525 to just band 20 it will still aggregate with other bands if the mobile network tells it too.

There in nothing in the Huawei B525 configuration that can be changed (locally or via an app) to stop or allow aggregation that is the important thing for everyone to know.


Apologies if I have read this wrong, but when I used LTEInspectuer and selected band 3 only on my B525 this stopped CA from working. CA would only work if I selected both bands in the aggregate options. I originally locked to band 3 only and disabled CA as when 4g+ was active it was impossible to make or receieve phone calls via the simcard.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 02-Oct-19 19:50:13
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Maybe everybody is happy with taking that from someone who only joined the forum to promote their app. I wouldn't feel safe with it myself.

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(committed) Wed 02-Oct-19 22:37:11
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Apologies if I have read this wrong, but when I used LTEInspectuer and selected band 3 only on my B525 this stopped CA from working. CA would only work if I selected both bands in the aggregate options. I originally locked to band 3 only and disabled CA as when 4g+ was active it was impossible to make or receieve phone calls via the simcard.
Hi Gary

I am only stating what I have read in the Polish Huawei B525 forums and the Polish guys seem to be the most knowledgeable when it comes to these routers, the point I was trying to make is that you can't actually configure what band to use as your primary band and what band to use as your CA band via the routers configuration(locally or via an app). Maybe I have misunderstood a little and if so you might be right that by locking it to just one band it disables CA
Standard User gary333
(member) Wed 02-Oct-19 23:07:45
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[re: dect] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by dect:
In reply to a post by gary333:
Apologies if I have read this wrong, but when I used LTEInspectuer and selected band 3 only on my B525 this stopped CA from working. CA would only work if I selected both bands in the aggregate options. I originally locked to band 3 only and disabled CA as when 4g+ was active it was impossible to make or receieve phone calls via the simcard.
Hi Gary

I am only stating what I have read in the Polish Huawei B525 forums and the Polish guys seem to be the most knowledgeable when it comes to these routers, the point I was trying to make is that you can't actually configure what band to use as your primary band and what band to use as your CA band via the routers configuration(locally or via an app). Maybe I have misunderstood a little and if so you might be right that by locking it to just one band it disables CA


No probs, that makes total sense smile. From the looks of it you can lock down to a single band (which results in CA being disabled by the B525) or you can tell the B525 what CA bands it's allowed to use. However, even though you can tell it what bands to use I am assuming the control of whether or not what you have selected is actually used comes down to the cell sites equipment.

One useful option though seems to be that you can select your upload channel, and although this cannot be aggregated it would be useful if for whatever reason your device likes to lock on to a band with less capacity.

Here is a screen shot of what options is in the LTEinspectuer for CA.

LTE Inspectuer CA
Standard User andynormancx
(member) Thu 03-Oct-19 07:02:01
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Those look like pretty constrained permissions and exactly the sort of access and app would need if it wanted to scan the network to find the router instead of having the user type in the IP address/name of the router.

According to this:

https://www.wandera.com/mobile-security/app-and-data...

90% of Android apps ask for "view network connections" and nearly as many ask for "view network connections" (of the apps they surveyed).
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(committed) Thu 03-Oct-19 08:48:14
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In reply to a post by gary333:
One useful option though seems to be that you can select your upload channel, and although this cannot be aggregated it would be useful if for whatever reason your device likes to lock on to a band with less capacity.
Do you have an apk for LTEinspectuer or a link to it
Standard User kommando
(newbie) Thu 03-Oct-19 13:38:25
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[re: dect] [link to this post]
 
LTEInspecteur only runs on a PC, there is an android app on the Polish sites which is itself a translation of an Arabic app, these are both called Hmanager. Neither are in English but the Polish version is easier to use but I still prefer LTEInspecteur.
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(committed) Thu 03-Oct-19 14:51:42
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In reply to a post by kommando:
LTEInspecteur only runs on a PC, there is an android app on the Polish sites which is itself a translation of an Arabic app, these are both called Hmanager. Neither are in English but the Polish version is easier to use but I still prefer LTEInspecteur.
OK thanks, didn't realise about LTEInspecteur only being PC based.
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(member) Thu 03-Oct-19 15:23:13
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[re: dect] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by dect:
In reply to a post by gary333:
One useful option though seems to be that you can select your upload channel, and although this cannot be aggregated it would be useful if for whatever reason your device likes to lock on to a band with less capacity.
Do you have an apk for LTEinspectuer or a link to it


Here you go smile

LTEInspectuer
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(committed) Thu 03-Oct-19 16:22:49
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Here you go smile

LTEInspectuer
Thanks Gary

This was interesting to read as you said you had issues using the sim card while locked to a single frequency

It is also possible to lock the router on a single frequency in case of unstable reception while retaining the benefit of telephony through the RJ11 socket . For that, do not forget to choose "Automatic" for the network on the screen shot above.
Standard User Adam86
(newbie) Mon 21-Oct-19 19:53:54
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[re: dect] [link to this post]
 
Is the B525 still a viable piece of kit to go for? I bought the Zyxel LTE3302 but I'm not too impressed with some of the functionality so considering exchanging for this.

Also does anyone know the difference between the B525 and B525s.

I ask in this thread as I have no hesitation in flashing this firmware to enable additional functionality (once I ensure that everything is working and I am happy of course)
Standard User gary333
(member) Mon 21-Oct-19 20:26:45
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All B525 are actually B525S smile. There are two versions suitable for UK. The standard UK model: B525s-23a and the Europe model which is the B525s-65a.

The 65a has more bands however the 23a covers I believe all current 4G bands so the 65a in lieu of 5G is no longer required.

The B525 I got from Amazon / Livewire has bridge mode by default.
Standard User Adam86
(newbie) Mon 21-Oct-19 20:30:02
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All B525 are actually B525S smile. There are two versions suitable for UK. The standard UK model: B525s-23a and the Europe model which is the B525s-65a.

The 65a has more bands however the 23a covers I believe all current 4G bands so the 65a in lieu of 5G is no longer required.

The B525 I got from Amazon / Livewire has bridge mode by default.


Your reply is most helpful smile

Is this the unit you bought from Amazon?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Huawei-unlocked-networks-Ge...

I can see this is sold by Livewire, bridge mode would be an important factor for me. Does yours also have the ability to switch bands in the Web GUI then or just bridge mode functionality?
Standard User gary333
(member) Mon 21-Oct-19 20:39:03
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Livewire are the UK official Huawei distributor. If any issues they can send you the firmware to enable bridge mode, but yes by default the unlocked devices like you have linked should be firmware: 11.189.63.00.1217.

The linked one is the one I got. Seem to have gone up in price.

Unfortunately this firmware does not support band selection only 2G/3G/4G or auto. Bands can be modified though using bc LTEinspectuer and is maintained upon turning device off or rebooting.

Bear in mind you can get a B535 from three on a one month contract for less than b525. Unsure what options the B535 has or lacks over the B525
Standard User nehuawei
(newbie) Fri 25-Oct-19 21:33:14
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I'm so glad I found this thread - I was beginning to think there was no one out there who found a way to change the firmware on a B525!

How many of you guys have actually gone ahead and changed the firmware? I'm currently running an unlimited Three sim in a set up for my retired parents. I'd read that I could make/receive calls with a dect phone and B525 but it turns out I can't, but at least with a tweak of the firmware, I should be able to get around it. I'm running Hardware version
WL1B520FM
Software Version
11.190.61.01.1217
Web UI Version
21.100.46.00.03

I'm struggling to find a decent firmware repository, I'd like to get a copy of the firmware that it's currently running so I have the option to roll it back if things don't work out - any suggestions?

OP, with this update will that allow me to unblock the RJ11 port?
Standard User buggerlugs
(newbie) Sun 27-Oct-19 13:18:48
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As someone on the LTEInspecteur page stated....

"I spent the zip (without decompressing) in analysis online via Virustotal ( https://www.virustotal.com/fr/ ) and a smallpox is detected = W32.malware.gen"

So allowing this to control bands on ones router may be, just may be a touch dangerous. You have absolutely no idea what this program is doing in the background.
Standard User Adam86
(newbie) Fri 15-Nov-19 14:56:20
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I did it on mine just a few days after receiving the kit.

It was very easy and probably took no more than 30 minutes, just used a flat screwdriver to bridge the points to enable the usb firmware mode.

Now can easily change between the frequencies etc.
Standard User Choo525
(newbie) Sun 17-Nov-19 14:34:45
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In reply to a post by DualingAunts:
I now find that I'm unable to fully use the phone function - I've plugged my old land-line in and can receive calls to it, but not make them. After some looking around online I get the impression that there are some VoLTE settings which are disabled in my firmware, so I'm looking to unlock them and I wondered if this firmware would do the trick.


Hi,
I also have a 525 branded three.ie. I find that as long there is a good 3G signal I can use the telephone. The settings must be on automatic but you can use the LTE inspecteur to select the bands you wish to use to get the best results. It does not always return to these bands when the call terminates. Sometimes you'll have to reset to your chosen settings.
I use mine in two different areas, one there is no coverage 3G or 4G going by the coverage map (right in the middle of a not spot) but get up 60mbps 4G+ (CA) down with 3 or smarty when using LTE inspecteur, sometimes the unit does select the best bands but mostly I have to force it.
I have to manually select 3G to attempt a telephone call as letting the unit do its stuff mostly does not work. Sometimes it does not work at all due to the lack of a 3G signal.
In the second area I use the 525 I get slightly better signals both on 3G and 4G (good coverage on the maps) and the telephone can be used without any manual selection of 3G, again for best results using LTE inspecteur to manage the bands - or the Polish app. In this area I do not get as high download speeds and no 4G+ has ever been noticed. Higher density of population and CA/4G+ not enabled perhaps.

Hope this helps a bit for users of the "Irish "Three 525.
Standard User smithbill
(newbie) Mon 16-Dec-19 14:12:22
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Hello,

I purchased a B525s-23a from Livewire about 18months ago and I requested that the device have a version of firmware that supported Bridge Mode. The firmware in my B525 is:
Software version: 11.189.61.00.1217
Web UI version: 21.100.44.00.03

I've now recently acquired a B535-232 from Three and noticed that the B535 connects to their network at LTE+ speed, but the B525 (in the same position as the B535 and with an identical Three SIM) only connects at LTE speed.

The B525s-23a does support LTE+ doesn't it?? Is the fact mine will only connect at LTE speed likely to be due to the older firmware? If I were to flash the firmware discussed in this thread, could I expect my B525 to connect to the Three network at LTE+ speed (i'm not bothered about 'Bridge Mode' any more).

Regards
Standard User gary333
(member) Mon 16-Dec-19 15:53:45
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Hi,

I have this firmware version on my B525

Software version: 11.189.63.00.1217
Web UI version: 21.100.44.00.03

I would advise you factory reset the B525 and see if this brings it back to life. Also to note, the B525 (at least for me) doesn't always connect to 4G+ straight away. This is because a band 20 mast is much closer and has higher signal strength for me. If I disconnect the network using the Huawei router front page and leave off for 20-30 secs, then turn back on this usually kicks 4G+ in to life (i.e. the router locks on to a less powerful signal band 3).

The band steering on the B525 seems quick poor / slow to react. I've always found the above disconnecting and reconnecting works for me (in my location). If left to it's own devices this can take hours for it to work out there is 4G+ available.

I would also recommend you check the cell ID is the same on both devices. If it's different you are probably hooking on to band 20 on the B525. The B535 might just be better at picking up network details and switching 4G+ much quicker.
Standard User smithbill
(newbie) Mon 16-Dec-19 17:37:28
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Thanks for the advice. I'll certainly try doing a factory-reset on the B525 and see what happens. I have tried powering it off for an hour to see if it made any difference, but it didn't, it still only connects at LTE speed. I don't think I've ever seen it connect at LTE+ I had assumed it was because Three or my local mast didn't have it enabled, but clearly that isn't the case as the B535 does connect at LTE+. I did check that both routers are connecting to the same Cell ID.

I also tried using Android app "huaCtrl" (available in the Google PlayStore) to change bands on both the B525 and B535, but I still couldn't get the B525 to go to LTE+
Standard User gary333
(member) Mon 16-Dec-19 18:06:04
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In reply to a post by smithbill:
Thanks for the advice. I'll certainly try doing a factory-reset on the B525 and see what happens. I have tried powering it off for an hour to see if it made any difference, but it didn't, it still only connects at LTE speed. I don't think I've ever seen it connect at LTE+ I had assumed it was because Three or my local mast didn't have it enabled, but clearly that isn't the case as the B535 does connect at LTE+. I did check that both routers are connecting to the same Cell ID.

I also tried using Android app "huaCtrl" (available in the Google PlayStore) to change bands on both the B525 and B535, but I still couldn't get the B525 to go to LTE+


Rather than turning the power off login to the router home page (192.168.8.1) and press the button with the two green arrows in. Leave it "disconnected" for 30 secs, then turn back on. This near enough always gets mine to 4G+ as I believe whilst it's off the device is checking what other networks it can see. After 30 secs turn back on and see if the 4G+ logo is lit when testing a heavy download. 4G+ doesn't activate unless you are trying to use most / all available bandwidth
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 16-Dec-19 18:55:50
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The band steering on the B525 seems quick poor / slow to react. I've always found the above disconnecting and reconnecting works for me (in my location). If left to it's own devices this can take hours for it to work out there is 4G+ available


'band steering' is normally a term used with the cell site, not the end user equipment. The cell site is in charge, and it watches the error counters and quality of signal measurements between your end user device and the cell site. It will push you to the band it thinks is needed.

Obviously on Three, band 20 (800mhz) only has 5mhz of capacity, whereas band 3 (1800mhz) has 15mhz of capacity. If you get 4G+ showing, this means your device and the mast are together sharing the two bands together for an equivalent of 20mhz of spectrum.

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Standard User gary333
(member) Mon 16-Dec-19 20:12:10
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That is as maybe, however the observation still stands regardless of whether the terminology I used wasn't totally correct. Trying to help the guy with what I have seen to help in this scenario. If you know what the correct term is for what I am trying to describe please post as clearly the device wants to connect to the strongest cell, rather than the "best" / higher capacity band. Logging off network and back on has worked every single time for me. Band 20 cell is <400m away, whereas the band 3 is over 1.2km away. The B525 appears to want to lock and stay on band 20 when it picks this up first, lots of people report this.

Edited by gary333 (Mon 16-Dec-19 20:18:35)

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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 16-Dec-19 20:59:24
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Yes as described the mast is in charge. It measures your signal quality and puts you on the one most likely to give you a usable signal. It does not care about internet speed.

Carrier Aggregation only activates when the mast allows. (4G+ as you see it)

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Standard User gary333
(member) Mon 16-Dec-19 21:16:01
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Yes as described the mast is in charge. It measures your signal quality and puts you on the one most likely to give you a usable signal. It does not care about internet speed.

Carrier Aggregation only activates when the mast allows. (4G+ as you see it)


If that's the case and all the device is doing is looking for is signal quality then why does what I describe above work, and work every time?

Leaving the device alone after switching on / restarting can lead to CA never being activated, or taking many hours. I am not saying it's the device that is deciding to give CA / 4g+, however it's the device choosing to stay on a band 20 cell where CA will never work until the device switches to the band 3 cell.

By example my closest cell gives an RSRP of -90db / 5 bars but on band 20. Where as the cell further away gives a RSRP of -103db or worse however is on band 3.

Yet, as above if you disconnect the B525 for 30secs (using router page not by turning device off) then reconnect to network the device switches to the "poorer" strength signal and quality cell (neighbouring)l which has band 3. As soon as it hits this cell with band 3 then CA is activated by that cell site.

I think the B525 simply goes for the strongest signal upon start up. When disconnected from network it must free up resources on the device to do further computation. I think it's likely that it uses this time to work out if neighboring cell sites have better bandwidth available which still fall within whatever pre-programmed upper and lower control limits it wants to accept. The device clearly has say on which cell it connects to, and must be using some internal logic to move over to a poorer cell site that will support ultimately better throughput.

IMO it's likely the B535 has a better processor and can do this computation quicker and thus move over to a more suitable "better" cells far quicker. It seems to me that if the B525 doesn't have available resource to process the base station & cell data within a couple of seconds of starting up it just gives up. Doing what I said seems to kick the B525 in to having another go working out the "best" cell where multiple are available.

Edited by gary333 (Mon 16-Dec-19 22:05:22)

Standard User smithbill
(newbie) Tue 17-Dec-19 15:41:43
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Rather than turning the power off login to the router home page (192.168.8.1) and press the button with the two green arrows in. Leave it "disconnected" for 30 secs, then turn back on.


Hi, I tried disconnecting using the 'green-arrow' button on the router home page and waiting 30secs or so, but it always just reconnected to the same cell (1148231) at '4G' speed. Whereas the B535 sitting about 90cm away on the same windowsill, connects to the same cell (1148231) at '4G+' speed.

I suspect i'll always connect to that cell as it less than 100metres away with direct line-of-sight.
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In reply to a post by gary333:
Rather than turning the power off login to the router home page (192.168.8.1) and press the button with the two green arrows in. Leave it "disconnected" for 30 secs, then turn back on.


Hi, I tried disconnecting using the 'green-arrow' button on the router home page and waiting 30secs or so, but it always just reconnected to the same cell (1148231) at '4G' speed. Whereas the B535 sitting about 90cm away on the same windowsill, connects to the same cell (1148231) at '4G+' speed.

I suspect i'll always connect to that cell as it less than 100metres away with direct line-of-sight.


Ah, if both devices connect to the same cell every time then it's unfortunately like jchamier says, this is decided by the cell site so nothing you can do on the device will fix this (unless someone has adjusted the settings to lock to a specific band as this will stop CA totally).

What I was recommending was only for situations like mine where a closer cell with band 20 was taking priority over a neighboring less powerful band 3 cell that you needed to kick the B525 in to life so it switches.
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(elder) Tue 17-Dec-19 19:39:42
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Mobile comms is part science and part art.
FTFY smile

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+100

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I can typically force CA by
1 Clicking the signal strength bars on the router homepage
2 Clicking the "mobile network searching" tab
3 "Preferred network mode" 4G
4 "Network search mode" manual
5 Save and select 3 4G

Once you do that, go back to router page and repeat step 1.

6 Once you're back to that page hit save, wait till the list of providers come up and click cancel, don't click 3 4G. Go back to router homepage to see if "4G+" is enabled. Works for me every time, but then again, i have a b900

Edit.

To add. You don't have to do steps 2 to 5 every time, if this happens to work for you, that is. If the router is restarted, simply repeat steps 1 and 6.

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(experienced) Tue 17-Dec-19 23:16:41
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Strange that one of your Huawei routers is doing 4G+ and the other one isn't

The B525s-23a does support 4G+ and lots of members here have reported that it works for them on the Three network so its strange that it isn't working for you.

If it was me I would figure out what bands are actually available locally and their signal strength (e.g. by using an app to step through each band, on both routers).

Does anyone know if the 'Inter bands' combinations specified by the manufacturer are the same for these two devices.

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He did mention 90cm between the two routers on the window ledge. That could well cause a difference.

I didnít comment on that earlier as he had already said the speed was down in the same place, but I wonder if he is counting the same window ledge as ďsame placeĒ.

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(newbie) Wed 18-Dec-19 05:58:01
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Thanks for all the help & advice everyone has given - unfortunately I'm still not able to get the B525 to connect at 4G+ but my B535 connects to the same Cell ID at 4G+ everytime.

I tried following the instructions to disconnect from the network, select the network manually & reconnect (the web config pages/buttons on the B525 are different to the B900 router, but I got the idea). Unfortunately, every time I select the 3 4G network and connect the network from the router home page, it just reconnects at 4G speed).

Both my B535 (connects at 4G+) and B525 (only connects at 4G} are sat on the same window ledge approx 90cm apart from each other, both using internal antennas & with direct line-of-sight to the Three mast (approx. 100metres away). I have wondered if there could be 'interference' between them but moving the B525 to a different location in the house makes no difference except to weaken the signal between B525 & mast.

In the 18months I've had it, I've never seen my B525 connect at 4G+ speed. I had assumed this was either because the B525 doesn't support it or the Three network or my local mast didn't support it. It's only by buying the B535 I've realised that the network/mast does support it. And only through this forum that I've learnt that the B525 ought to support it.

I'm convinced the issue is the firmware that Livewire (modem.co.uk) flashed it with when I bought it from them 18months ago & requested firmware that supports Bridge Mode (which I don't use now). I have emailed Livewire several days ago for some answers or new firmware, but their support people seem to be useless & haven't bothered to reply (the sales guy is helpful & replies, so I'll have to ask him to goad the support team into a response).

The only thing I haven't tried yet is a total hard reset of the B525. If I get no response from Livewire, that's what I'll try next. If that doesn't work, I'll try the firmware update posted at the start of this thread.

Edited by smithbill (Wed 18-Dec-19 05:59:29)

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I don't know the routers but could it just be that one has a better antenna setup than the other and so gets a stronger signal?
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(experienced) Wed 18-Dec-19 09:30:42
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I'm convinced the issue is the firmware that Livewire (modem.co.uk) flashed it with
I'm not convinced but if you are going to update the firmware I strongly suggest you get the latest official version rather than some hacked version that could cause you other issues.
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He did mention 90cm between the two routers on the window ledge. That could well cause a difference.

worth looking up the concept of multi-pathing on radio communications. Especially at GHz frequencies.

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Standard User smithbill
(newbie) Wed 18-Dec-19 15:31:20
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Well, I contacted Livewire (modem.co.uk) from whom I bought the B525. Their Support people didn't even bother to respond and the sales manager although polite, offered no solution other than to say there is no firmware update beyond 11.189.61.00.1217 (which is what is in my B525) and that Livewire just get the routers in from Huawei and ship them out unaltered (so I'm not sure what value Livewire add other than to have a UK shipping address!). I won't be purchasing anything from Livewire again and I don't recommend you do if you want any support in the future.

So, I'll try doing a hard reset on the B525 and see what happens.
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(experienced) Wed 18-Dec-19 15:41:49
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there is no firmware update beyond 11.189.61.00.1217 .

So, I'll try doing a hard reset on the B525 and see what happens.
Interesting, I asked my friend (who has one) and was told they are on 11.236.01.00.1217 which I would have thought is newer than yours but maybe their versioning isn't done the traditional way.

Edited by dect (Wed 18-Dec-19 15:57:46)

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Interesting, I asked my friend (who has one) and was told they are on 11.236.01.00.1217 which I would have thought is newer than yours but maybe their versioning isn't done the traditional way.


Well, I suspect two things: a) your friends firmware version probably is newer (my B525 is 18months old) but Huawei probably have a chaotic version control system across different regions/languages & that confuses everything b) Livewire probably have no idea if there is a newer firmware and they don't care providing they can ship more units.
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(experienced) Wed 18-Dec-19 16:24:03
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my B525 is 18months old
I don't believe his is much younger, I think I recall him saying he bought it around the summer of 2018 and the firmware and UI versions haven't changed since his had it.
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My B311 has an "Check for update" in its "Advanced" tab. I would expect the 525 also does. Though something I saw google come up with for other kit suggests Auto-update is always on in later firmwares of some kit. On mine it is optional.

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(elder) Wed 18-Dec-19 17:32:52
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I've just found this on the Huawei Community support forum.
For assistance needed regarding Mobile Broadband, Mobile phone or Home devices, we advise you to check the Huawei support website for consumer, which also contains direct hotline phone numbers where you can contact our colleagues from the Consumer Business Group, which are able to help you solve your issues: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/contact-us/index.htm?t...

If the information that you are seeking cannot be found there or if the country where you are currently located is not included on our website, please contact our colleagues by sending an e-mail to [email protected]
Not sure it will be any use, but who knows?

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(experienced) Wed 18-Dec-19 17:35:22
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
My B311 has an "Check for update" in its "Advanced" tab. I would expect the 525 also does. Though something I saw google come up with for other kit suggests Auto-update is always on in later firmwares of some kit. On mine it is optional.
The B525 has a button like yours, it also has an option under system settings to automatically check and update (in the middle of the night) this may be firmware specific though.

Edited by dect (Wed 18-Dec-19 17:35:50)

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(newbie) Wed 18-Dec-19 18:34:48
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Thanks for the links to Huawei Support. I have tried them in the past and, I'm sorry to stay, they are as useful as a hole-in-the-head, chocolate-teapot etc. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Standard User kommando
(learned) Wed 18-Dec-19 18:44:40
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The Firmware is odd on the B525 and probably for most Huawei routers, I have never seen mine updated despite owning it for a year and clicking on update, I do not have auto update ticked. It seems if your router is unlocked you have to force an update using firmware on a PC and opening up the B525 to short 2 pins so it goes into USB update mode which then can be loaded from the PC.

Mine is at 11.232.05.00.778 but its got some odd numbering so you cannot assume a bigger number on the end means a later version.

This is for the B593, the B525 is just as complicated

https://blog.hqcodeshop.fi/archives/198-B593-firmwar...

This may be more useful, or less

https://app.box.com/s/0uim7fp7j4dzet2bpmhp

Edited by kommando (Wed 18-Dec-19 18:47:10)

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(newbie) Thu 19-Dec-19 13:43:53
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I tried a hard reset of my B525 using the pinhole on the back of the unit. Unfortunately this seems to have had no effect on the connection and it remains stubbornly on 4G/LTE.

I even tried using the web config page to do a Local Update using the firmware .bin file included at the start of this thread. It went through the process & finished with 'Update Failed'. I also tried the same using a B525 firmware .bin file I found via Google. That too failed (but at least my B525 didn't screw up, it just stayed on its existing firmware).

I used Android app huaCtrl to connect to my B525. See image here:
https://pasteboard.co/ILYEl6t.png

Simultaneously I used another Android phone with huaCtrl to connect to my B535. See image here:
https://pasteboard.co/ILYDOEB.jpg

As you can see in the top-right of the images, the B535 connects at LTE+ whereas the B525 only connects at LTE speed. Both routers are connected to the same Cell ID and on the same Band B3-1800MHz. As best I can understand, both devices are showing pretty decent signal levels on internal antenna (I tried the B525 on external antenna but it made no difference).

So, I'm convinced the problem has to be the B525 firmware 11.189.61.00.1217 unless anyone has any other ideas (supplier Livewire weren't interested in providing any support whatsoever!)

Edited by smithbill (Thu 19-Dec-19 13:45:39)

Standard User gary333
(member) Thu 19-Dec-19 16:23:49
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It might be worth asking LiveWire for the version of firmware I am using which is 11.189.63.00.1217 - device purchase = July 2019. Although for all we know the 61 > 63 could just be down to network lock or region setting or similar.

Can you borrow a sim card from any friends or family and try another network and see if the same thing happens?

Also, as you have two devices, have you tried swapping the sims between them - or is that what you are doing to test as is?

Edited by gary333 (Thu 19-Dec-19 16:24:17)

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My 525 has version 11.182.61.00.778 and does go to LTE+ but only for a while when there is a lot being downloaded. It switches back to 4G immediately after.
Mostly it sits on 4G unless there is a mobile call in progress, when it drops back to 3G.
It seems happy enough to sit on Band 3 most of the time, but sometimes switches to Band 20, which is much slower, so I've disabled that band in the settings.
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My 525 has version 11.182.61.00.778 and does go to LTE+ but only for a while when there is a lot being downloaded. It switches back to 4G immediately after.
That is normal practice for carrier aggregation, you see this on phones as well. (even iPhones do it, despite not having a 4G+ indicator)

Mostly it sits on 4G unless there is a mobile call in progress, when it drops back to 3G.
On Three this is because your device does not support VoLTE, where the call would be carried across the band 20 4G network.

It seems happy enough to sit on Band 3 most of the time, but sometimes switches to Band 20, which is much slower, so I've disabled that band in the settings.
If you have a good signal for Three on band 3 this is better for you as there is more capacity (15mhz) than on Band 20 (5mhz).

If you can get an EE signal you can get 35mhz of capacity on Band 3 in many areas, as they have 20mhz followed by a second band 3 signal of 15mhz, which can be aggregated together. Plus band 20 (5mhz).

If you can get a Vodafone or Osignal then you find their band 20 has 10mhz of capacity, and both are converting band 1 (2100mhz) to 4G in many areas, I believe both have 10mhz of band 1.

All networks are not the same!!

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Edited by jchamier (Thu 19-Dec-19 17:45:32)

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(newbie) Thu 19-Dec-19 18:01:13
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I have my B525 connected to a Google WiFi setup, using their Mesh pucks. Are we able to put the B525 into bridge mode yet?
I can't find the option and comments in this thread seem to suggest it was removed in previous firmware updates

Firmware version for mine is 11.236.01.00.00
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(newbie) Thu 19-Dec-19 18:54:28
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It might be worth asking LiveWire for the version of firmware I am using which is 11.189.63.00.1217 - device purchase = July 2019. Although for all we know the 61 > 63 could just be down to network lock or region setting or similar.

Can you borrow a sim card from any friends or family and try another network and see if the same thing happens?

Also, as you have two devices, have you tried swapping the sims between them - or is that what you are doing to test as is?


Livewire claim that they do nothing with firmware. They just get the B525s from Huawei and sell them to UK customers unmodified. They told me that the routers still ship with firmware 11.189.61.00.1217

I'd be wasting my time trying to ask Huawei for different firmware.

My B525 has until recently had a Three pay-monthly mobile broadband SIM inserted. I've now tried a Three PAYG data SIM with 1GB data + 200Mb free monthly. Neither made any difference to the B525 switching to LTE+

I could try ordering a PAYG or preloaded data SIM for a different network, but I'm reluctant to pay more than a few £'s just to test it. I'll look at prices.

I could try swapping SIMs to see what happens. But I had understood from Three that there are no network restrictions on their SIM cards, the fastest speed the device supports is what you get (even 5G if you are able to get it).

Edited by smithbill (Thu 19-Dec-19 18:57:14)

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Threeís not actually launched 5G yet. Itís a different network formerly called Relish they have bought and renamed Three Broadband.

Three are rather good at marketing.

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(newbie) Thu 19-Dec-19 19:02:16
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If you have a good signal for Three on band 3 this is better for you as there is more capacity (15mhz) than on Band 20 (5mhz).

If you can get an EE signal you can get 35mhz of capacity on Band 3 in many areas, as they have 20mhz followed by a second band 3 signal of 15mhz, which can be aggregated together. Plus band 20 (5mhz).

All networks are not the same!!


This is interesting! Is there a simple list somewhere specifying which bands are best (most capacity) on different UK networks?
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In reply to a post by Mrbubba:
Are we able to put the B525 into bridge mode yet?
I can't find the option and comments in this thread seem to suggest it was removed in previous firmware updates

Firmware version for mine is 11.236.01.00.00


Well my B525 has Bridge Mode (firmware 11.189.61.00.1217, purchased from Livewire in UK about 18months ago), but I don't need Bridge Mode now, I want LTE+
I'll do you a swap smile
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Where I work we have a very comprehensive cell site on o2 just outside the grounds (and specifically designed by o2's network team to cover our buildings). It has 12 indivdual cells (so very directional beam) and has bands:

1 - 10mhz
3 - 5mhz
20 - 10mhz
40 - 20mhz

Speeds are still pretty poor so even when you get the best that o2 can give, still ain't good enough. Although, better than Three, EE and Vodafone as non of them work in the buildings.
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(newbie) Fri 20-Dec-19 17:19:13
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Hello

With the B525 is it possible to use it for the inclusive SIM minutes AND receive VOIP calls through the same telephone port ?

Thanks
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(elder) Fri 20-Dec-19 17:25:21
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If you are talking about the Three HomeFi, I think you will find there are no inclusive minutes or texts with it. It's a 100GB Data SIM with a free unlimited data add-on.

Unlike the unlimited data/minutes/texts phone SIM.

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(newbie) Fri 20-Dec-19 18:10:53
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No, I have unlimited data / minutes / SMS
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This is interesting! Is there a simple list somewhere specifying which bands are best (most capacity) on different UK networks?

not really. This 2016 diagram might help:
http://i.imgur.com/wMggQna.png
Then you have to take into account the spectrum auction in 2018:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/2018-...
And then Ofcom allowed the networks to run anything (2G, 3G, 4G, 5G) on ANY spectrum they have license for.

So I threw together this page, which might help:
https://www.redsplace.co.uk/mobile/

And there is another spectrum auction due in 2020 for the 700 MHz band and maybe some mmWave spectrum (above 10 GHz) which will be called the 5G (NR) auction, but some of the spectrum could be used for 4G (LTE).

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Edited by jchamier (Fri 20-Dec-19 18:20:32)

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(member) Fri 20-Dec-19 18:20:08
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Hello

With the B525 is it possible to use it for the inclusive SIM minutes AND receive VOIP calls through the same telephone port ?

Thanks


The technical manual doesnít make it clear, however I am pretty sure from reading posts on other forums that itís one or the other.

Extract from manual suggests itís OR rather than AND.

ďCompatibility with RJ11 telephone ports; can be set to Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) voice mode or Circuit Switch (CS) voice mode
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(newbie) Fri 20-Dec-19 19:04:27
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Thankyou Gary

I really wanted to avoid having a glut of power supplies for 2x handsets, VOIP ATA etc

Do you know if something like a Siemens C530 IP would handle both the VOIP and SIM 3 UK calls ?
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(newbie) Sat 21-Dec-19 17:57:08
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So I threw together this page, which might help:
https://www.redsplace.co.uk/mobile/


What a brilliant guide! Thank you for taking the time to put it together. I've learnt quite a lot from it, and I've also realised that the Three network may not have been the best choice in terms of available download bandwidth.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 21-Dec-19 18:03:04
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What a brilliant guide! Thank you for taking the time to put it together. I've learnt quite a lot from it, and I've also realised that the Three network may not have been the best choice in terms of available download bandwidth.


But it might have coverage where you are, and less load.

Also have to think how many people are using each network. You can often get figures from company annual reports. Less people on less bandwidth is still good speeds.

A while back customer numbers were:
Three = 10 million
Vodafone = 15 or 18 million
O2 = 25 million
EE = 29 million (since Orange & T-Mobile merger)

Things might have changed, I havenít kept up.

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Standard User gary333
(member) Sat 21-Dec-19 23:16:36
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In theory less customers is better, but as we know Three customers are data hogs and use over 3.5 times more data per subscriber than the UK average .
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 22-Dec-19 00:03:25
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Which is probably vitally important if you happen to be in an area with high Three customer density. Less of an issue for rural folk.

Now all the networks have unlimited offerings this may even out.

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Standard User dect
(experienced) Sun 22-Dec-19 12:43:48
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Less of an issue for rural folk.
Would have thought Vodafone or O2 would have been better in rural locations because of having more 800Mhz bandwidth.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 22-Dec-19 12:49:38
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Would have thought Vodafone or O2 would have been better in rural locations because of having more 800Mhz bandwidth.

Yes, but in actuality it depends on line of sight to the mast, foliage between you and mast, and quality of signal (e.g. interference).

So you can find people whom get better performance from 5 MHz of Three or EE in a different direction, to 10 MHz of Voda/O2.

The game changes completely when you add in ANY other band, sometimes possible with external antenna.

Plus the backhaul question, some elderly masts on all networks can have poor backhaul, still awaiting upgrade, getting overloaded before the radio spectrum is.

As commented elsewhere..... Comms is Hard smile

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Standard User frooty
(newbie) Sun 22-Dec-19 16:33:38
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Hello everyone!

Found this thread by searching the webz as I've recently purchased A B525 from amazon uk & was after some info & this thread has proven to be a huge help in setting up my new network & getting the fastest speeds from it - many thanks to everyone who has posted info here, it's very much appreciated.
I live in rural wales & have been stuck with super slow & expensive broadband for the last 6 years ( 3mb down, 1mb up on a good day & weather permitting!) as I had no 4G signal until a few weeks ago when it suddenly started showing on my mobile - I guess the comms mast was upgraded. After searching around I went for the B525 from amazon uk with a SIM card from Three for only £18 p/m with unlimited everything with intentions of dumping my useless & unreliable broadband & phone line completely if all worked out well. I didn't want to stop using my Asus AC86U for routing so it was important that the B525 could be used in bridge mode, as well as incoming & outgoing calls.
When the B525 arrived I connected it up in normal DHCP mode without the Asus router for testing & was amazed to find that I was suddenly getting ~80mb download speeds - praise the cyber gods! However, I couldn't for the life of me get the phone to receive incoming calls (as others have reported here) & my speeds would suddenly drop down to ~20mb without explanation - so after searching the web I found this thread which has shed light on my issues.
I was completely unaware of different bands = different speeds as well as being able to control which band my B525 connected to until I found this thread & after a little more investigation & testing I was able to "lock on" to band 3 1800 by using the huaCtrl app mentioned in this thread, which has kept my speed at a constant(ish) 80mb, but I was still unable to fix the incoming calls issue.
Happy with my speeds now, I connected my Asus AC86 to the B525 & set the B525 to bridged mode, waited a few minutes for everything to "warm up" then tried the call function again - hey presto - I could receive calls! So, it seems that the calls function only works fully when the B525 is in bridged mode.
So, I'm super happy now & have cancelled my expensive & draconian phone line & broadband & am using my B525 for both my internet & home phone. I have also connected an outdoor antenna from amazon uk which has boosted my signal to full (5 bars) as well as my speed which is now up to ~120mb down & 20mb up!
I travel a lot & am sometimes away for months at a time, so the beauty of this system is that instead of paying for a phone line & broadband internet that I'm not using while away I can simply switch everything off, remove the Three SIM from the router & slot it into my dual SIM mobile & I have free, unlimited internet anywhere I go as well as having my home phone on my mobile - perfect!
Once again, thank you to everyone who posted info on this thread, I would never have known how to set this system up otherwise.

Merry xmas to you, if that's you're thing.
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(newbie) Sun 22-Dec-19 16:59:06
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Seems like a happy customer smile

I'm amazed you can get ~120Mb download on your B525. The best I can get on my B525 with direct line-of-sight to the mast <100metres away, is around 30Mb if I try at 4am! Normal daytime use is 5-15Mb.

When next your mobile contract is due, you might want to consider the free B535 from Three. Although by that time you might have 5G available. (And note that Bridge Mode does not appear to be available on the B535).
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(newbie) Sun 22-Dec-19 17:19:23
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Very happy indeed! I'm still shocked myself TBH - a jump from 3 to ~95+ is much more than I ever thought I'd get. Here's a screen of the first two days with my Asus AC86:

https://postimg.cc/yWrBxkzF

The dips are me messing or when I get a call the signal auto switches to 3G, then back to 4G when finished. The B525 doesn't automatically go straight to 4G+ but switches to it when demand requires, ie when downloading or streaming, which is fine by me. I wanted to keep the Asus as it has excellent firmware by Merlin that utilises vpn, add blocking etc as well as an excellent firewall addon - it's a great router.
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(newbie) Mon 23-Dec-19 05:47:02
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Here's a screen of the first two days with my Asus AC86:

https://postimg.cc/yWrBxkzF


What's the tool/website you are using to measure Upload/Download performance? I use the Thinkbroadband Quality & Speed test tools on the website, but I'd like something else to draw a comparison with.
Standard User kommando
(learned) Mon 23-Dec-19 08:40:46
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In my B525 firmware there is a voip setting which I use with a Sipgate basic account, using a phone plugged into the B525 I do not get the drop to 3g but also cannot use the Three free minutes but the SMS still works.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 23-Dec-19 10:38:09
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What's the tool/website you are using to measure Upload/Download performance? I use the Thinkbroadband Quality & Speed test tools on the website, but I'd like something else to draw a comparison with.
That is a feature of the Asus router range, you can see a graph of the data passing through it. It doesn't matter what your broadband type is.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 23-Dec-19 10:39:48
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What a brilliant guide! Thank you for taking the time to put it together. I've learnt quite a lot from it, and I've also realised that the Three network may not have been the best choice in terms of available download bandwidth.


I've just updated that page, with a link to this guide on how "Gigabit LTE" networks are built, and the type of User Equipment (UE) you need to take advantage. What is unclear is how the UK networks align, Vodafone and EE have the spectrum to achieve this, but seem to be rolling out mostly only in cities.
https://www.techspot.com/guides/1328-gigabit-lte-exp...

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Standard User gary333
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Is anyone who has a B525-23a seeing CA on Band 1 and Band 3?

After reviewing the manual for the 23a this combination is not down as being supported. Only B1+B20 or B3+B20. If this of correct itís not good news for Three owners as this is the ideal combo.

I notice the B525-65a does list B1+B3 as an allowable combination.

Be interesting to know why the 23a doesnít support the combination for CA but does support each band individually if the manual is correct.
Standard User gary333
(committed) Tue 21-Jan-20 18:13:28
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Potentially answering my own question but could be useful for others.

After putting my sim card in my iPhone X I can see CA being activated by the cell. "LTE neighbour" / secondary band 3, with phone latching on to primary band 1 (B1 & B3 flipping around between primary and secondary).

This seems to suggest as the manual states that B1+B3 is NOT possible on the 23a model of the B525. Dissapointing. Maybe this is why Three are now using the B535 - however cannot find spec sheet to see if B1 + B3 is possible.

Does anyone have a B525-65a they could try B1+B3 on?

Just to confirm I have also used LTEInspecteur to tell the router to use B1+B3 and flipped it back to automatic. Neither work, and even though there was no error codes it still does not work suggesting it must be a firmware limitation of this device.

Anyone any views if anything else could be tried?
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(experienced) Tue 21-Jan-20 22:15:43
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After reviewing the manual for the 23a this combination is not down as being supported. Only B1+B20 or B3+B20. If this of correct itís not good news for Three owners as this is the ideal combo.
Also unless I'm reading the datasheet wrong B32 (L Band) is only supported with B20 (e.g. B20+B32) on the B525-23a
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(committed) Tue 21-Jan-20 23:13:56
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In reply to a post by dect:
In reply to a post by gary333:
After reviewing the manual for the 23a this combination is not down as being supported. Only B1+B20 or B3+B20. If this of correct itís not good news for Three owners as this is the ideal combo.
Also unless I'm reading the datasheet wrong B32 (L Band) is only supported with B20 (e.g. B20+B32) on the B525-23a


Indeed looks like all the good combinations are missing including as you say B1+B32 or B3+B32 from both models. I had hoped that when something wasn't listed it was just because it hadn't been tested rather than a hardware or firmware limitation.

B525s-23a support:
LTE: B1/3/7/8/20/32/38
Intra-band contiguous: B3+B3, B7+B7, B38+B38
Inter-band: B3+B7, B3+B20, B7+B20, B7+B8, B3+B8, B1+B20, B1+B8, B20+B32

B525s-65a support:
LTE: B1/B3/B7/B8/B20/B26/B28/B38/B40
Inter-band: B1+B3, B1+B5, B1+B19, B1+B8, B1+B20, B1+B28, B3+B5, B3+B19, B3+B7, B3+B8, B3+B20, B3+B28, B4+B28, B5+B7, B5+B38, B5+B40, B7+B20, B7+B28, B7+B8, B8+B28, B20+B32, B20+B38, B26+B40, B28+B38
Intra-band contiguous: B1+B1, B3+B3, B7+B7, B26+B26, B38+B38, B40+B40, B41+B41
Intra-band noncontiguous: B3+B3, B38+B38, B40+B40, B41+B41

Looks like the B535 does support B1+B3 which may explain why SmithBill's B535 had CA, but his B525 did not.

B535-232 support:
LTE: B1/B3/B7/B8/B20/B28/B32/B38
Intra-band: B1+B3, B1+B7, B1+B8, B1+B20, B1+B28, B3+B7, B3+B8, B3+B20, B3+B28, B7+B8, B7+B20, B7+B28, B8+B32, B8+B38, B20+B32, B20+B38, B28+B38
Intra-band (unknown): B3+B3

Edited by gary333 (Wed 22-Jan-20 00:05:35)

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Anyone know how the B618 compares to the b535 or b525-65a (these seem reallygood but not sure where you can buy them now!)

I believe this is the datasheet for it but I cant seem to work it out!

https://www.4gltemall.com/downloads/dl/file/id/145/p...
Standard User kommando
(regular) Fri 24-Jan-20 16:59:28
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B618-22d does not seem to have as much cover as the B525, limited bands without band 32 and ual CA and 2CA options are not good.

LTE: B1/3/7/8/20/38

Intra-band contiguous: CA_1C,CA_3C,CA_7C,CA_8B, CA_38C

Inter-band:
CA_1A-3A,CA_1A-20A,CA_3A-7A,CA_3A-20A,CA_7A-20A,CA_20A-38A
Standard User planetf1
(experienced) Sat 25-Jan-20 11:43:20
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Thanks for posting that. Even with b535 though weíre still limited to 2ca and no b32+1 or 3 for example

Iím not aware of any routers in the market that do until you get to the 5g pro , their mobile 5g, and a high end 250+ huaiwei 4g and those are al harder to get gold off, at least except for 5g contract.
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(regular) Sat 25-Jan-20 17:40:29
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The B715-23c gets you 3CA but not 1/3/32 as a combination but has 1/3/20 as a combo and 3/20/32.

* Carrier Aggregation&#65306;

-- (4G)2CA: CA_1A-3A, CA_1A-7A, CA_1A-8A, CA_1A-20A, CA_1A-28A, CA_1A-38A, CA_1C, CA_3A-7A, CA_3A-8A, CA_3A-20A, CA_3A-28A, CA_3A-32A, CA_3A-38A, CA_3C, CA_7A-7A, CA_7A-8A, CA_7A-20A, CA_7A-28A, CA_7A-32A, CA_7C, CA_20A-32A, CA_20A-38A, CA_38C

-- (4G)3CA: CA_1A-3A-7A, CA_1A-3A-8A, CA_1A-3A-20A, CA_1A-3C, CA_1A-7A-20A, CA_1A-7C, CA_3A-7A-8A, CA_3A-7A-20A, CA_3A-7A-28A, CA_3A-7A-38A, CA_3A-20A-32A, CA_3C-7A, CA_3C-20A, CA_7A-20A-38A


But the combination will work for some masts, I already have 3 and 20, so does the mast get 1 or 32, seems the B715 will cope with both possibilities.
Standard User planetf1
(experienced) Sat 25-Jan-20 18:53:13
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I note no 2CA upstream though? Which the B535 does have? (no idea if effective on three.. or vodafone)
Do you have any links to the specs? I was able to find the 5G CPE Pro details, but not for the other models discussed?
Standard User planetf1
(experienced) Sat 25-Jan-20 18:56:22
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At the risk of some divergence... with mobile phones storming ahead with 5CA, and routers lagging, are there good budget options of phones that could be used as dedicated hotspots (for a small config - just tv/ipad/laptops)? Starting to wonder if any of the cheapo android handsets are anywhere in the radio game

Of course my iPhone XS does great, but what is the best device for modem only? nothing else would matter really. (plugged in to adaptor)?
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 25-Jan-20 21:50:25
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Very few networks have the spectrum to enable uplink CA.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 25-Jan-20 21:51:00
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Some Huawei MiFi devices connected via a USB cable to a larger router might solve the question.

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Standard User kommando
(regular) Sun 26-Jan-20 10:16:55
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In my case that would not work as my phone only gets 4G if held up above the roofline, the router with a directional antenna gets a solid lock on 4G so router it is. I get 40mb download speeds and that is more than I need, I really only need faster downloads. Until I know which way Three go on the local mast I am sticking with the B525, if they go the Band 1 route then I will see what's around to give me 2 or 3 CA covering 1 3 and 20, if they go Band 32 then its 3 20 and 32 but band 20 is only 5mhz bandwidth so 2CA would not be much lower than 3CA and if the mast can only handle 2CA no difference at all. Hopefully when the time comes to need an upgrade the choices will be better.

The lack of information on masts and planned upgrades means you are best waiting until the upgrade is in place and tested before deciding the way to go.
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 26-Jan-20 13:36:38
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In my case that would not work as my phone only gets 4G if held up above the roofline, the router with a directional antenna gets a solid lock on 4G so router it is.


In your case you would have external antenna, to the MiFi, then USB to the full router. Many MiFi devices have SMA connectors.

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Standard User kommando
(regular) Sun 26-Jan-20 14:05:04
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Pointless until the mast is upgraded, as technology moves so quickly there is no point in buying based on some unknown future mast upgrade.
Standard User jchamier
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Pointless until the mast is upgraded, as technology moves so quickly there is no point in buying based on some unknown future mast upgrade.

And given Three and EE have a lot of their masts run in a joint venture by MBNL, once upgraded, you might look at EE performance as well.

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(member) Mon 27-Jan-20 21:26:28
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Whats the difference between "interband" and Intraband contiguous?

I am trying to work out for the following scenarios what would be best?

EE have 1800mhz on a mast (double speed) assuming that means 2 carriers on band 3? What would this be classed as intra or inter band?

Trying to work out the best router for this combo and any potential future ones if ee upgrade to include 2600mhz too - i dont think this is likely in the short term tho.


Thanks!

Edited by barker04 (Mon 27-Jan-20 21:28:52)

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Standard User madmal
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Hi, I've read through this whole thread to try and establish which device I should buy for a Three unlimited data SIM. I need some help deciding please smile

My requirements are best performance, bridge mode, and possibly want to plug in a phone.

I think the b715 is the best router but it depends on the 2CA and 3CA combinations active on my local tower. However, I'm not sure it's worth the extra and the hassle of importing one.

The b535 sounds like it might be the best option as the 2CA band combinations mean I'll get downloads better than the b525.

The b525 seems like the best choice for custom firmware and tweaking of bands.

Have I missed anything ?

Also if a B525 is locked to EE, will flashing the custom firmware unlock it for Three?
Standard User planetf1
(experienced) Wed 12-Feb-20 23:28:55
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I came to the same conclusion

The 715 can be got for around 140-150, but the 818 looks significantly better for around 200+. Then there's the really nice 5G Pro - for around 350-425!

Since I'm only looking initially at a temporary option for an unknown number of months - 1? 12? who knows - I think the 535 (79 on a 1 month contract) is the best option. Will be a shame to KNOW I could do better though.

After moving it will be back to cable, fttp, or 5G ....
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Based on what I've read on this thread, I think all of those are overkill as you won't get faster speeds than what you will get with the b535. Three don't support 3ca, unless you're going to go with EE I don't think it will be faster.

Happy for someone else with more knowledge to confirm or deny this....
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(experienced) Sat 22-Feb-20 21:51:00
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So I posted a few weeks ago about the B535 for home broadband. I just setup the B535 with three today (brighton). A little underwhelming in performance at around 24-31 down and 4-12 up. I had hoped the local mast had B20, B32 and with CA the perf might be a fair bit above this.

Does anyone know how to check which bands are being used on the B535, and how to persuade it to try other bands?
I've seen some mention of an android app - but I only have iOS and MacOS. Any ideas?
Standard User planetf1
(experienced) Mon 24-Feb-20 07:52:05
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Here's the full data I have so far from the modem -> https://gist.github.com/40959b317fa15580ecc930ce1b88...

This definately suggests it's locked onto band 3. I don't see evidence of CA, but am unsure what to look for.

Any tips on later firmware?

Edited by planetf1 (Mon 24-Feb-20 07:55:28)

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Pfff I have got this HUAWEI B535-232 nad there is no BRIDGE mode. Is there any soft I can install to activate bridge mode?
Standard User kommando
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The firmware either has or does not have Bridge mode in it, Huawei firmware versions are a dark art, on the B525 and B715 you have to open up the router and connect 2 pins to allow the firmware to be changed via a usb cable connected to a PC with the right drivers. The B535 is probably the same, if you change firmware you may brick the device or lose features you need like VOIP.
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Pfff I have got this HUAWEI B535-232 nad there is no BRIDGE mode. Is there any soft I can install to activate bridge mode?
There is firmware that will allow you to switch bridge mode on. However, it doesn't work even if you do. Believe me, I've tried! I reckon Huawei removed Bridge Mode because they couldn't make it work either.
Don't waste your time. Simply put another router behind it in a DMZ - that should work OK.
By the way, if you do flash the firmware to try bridge mode, there seemed to be no way back.
But no longer.
For reasons that I fail to understand, last night my B525 updated its firmware, all on its own.
Standard User hoopla
(committed) Sat 21-Mar-20 12:09:27
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The decision to aggregate is done by the mobile network (aka BTS) not the Huawei B525 routers configuration. Even if you lock a Huawei B525 to just band 20 it will still aggregate with other bands if the mobile network tells it too.

There in nothing in the Huawei B525 configuration that can be changed (locally or via an app) to stop or allow aggregation that is the important thing for everyone to know.
I flashed the firmware in my B525 to a version that allowed me to switch on Bridge Mode.
Bridge Mode didn't work anyway, but the same firmware version allowed me to choose which bands to use.
If I chose B3 or B20 alone, I never got CA. If I switched both B3 and B20 on, I did get CA.
So I can only assume that your assertion only applies to some versions of the firmware.
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(committed) Sat 21-Mar-20 13:28:02
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The decision to aggregate is done by the mobile network (aka BTS) not the Huawei B525 routers configuration. Even if you lock a Huawei B525 to just band 20 it will still aggregate with other bands if the mobile network tells it too.

There in nothing in the Huawei B525 configuration that can be changed (locally or via an app) to stop or allow aggregation that is the important thing for everyone to know.
I flashed the firmware in my B525 to a version that allowed me to switch on Bridge Mode.
Bridge Mode didn't work anyway, but the same firmware version allowed me to choose which bands to use.
If I chose B3 or B20 alone, I never got CA. If I switched both B3 and B20 on, I did get CA.
So I can only assume that your assertion only applies to some versions of the firmware.


Bridge mode works on my b525, however it came enabled when purchased. It doesnít have the option for band selection though on the firmware I have.
Standard User hoopla
(committed) Sat 21-Mar-20 13:33:55
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Bridge mode works on my b525, however it came enabled when purchased. It doesnít have the option for band selection though on the firmware I have.
That's interesting. Which firmware version do you have?
If you want to be able to select bands, you can do it with LTE Watch, which you can download from https://www.lte-anbieter.info/ltewatch/huawei.php
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(committed) Sat 21-Mar-20 17:26:02
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My device came with Software version: 11.189.63.00.1217

I can change bands using a program to do so, but not in router settings page.
Standard User henrix343
(newbie) Sat 21-Mar-20 21:17:47
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@hoopla so you want to tell me that there is no DEFAULT huawei software for this router? Only the brands ones?

The ISP (or mobile operators in this case) are modding the soft from something. I thought it was the default soft...

I need the BRIDGE mode because it is so much simpler - for example WOL, VPN (on MY router - ISP does not "control" it), local network settings I can just paste, and so on.

"By the way, if you do flash the firmware to try bridge mode, there seemed to be no way back." wow that is... strange by any means. In a 21th century there is a soft you can't roll(back)over to previous version... or set up a default one. I don't want anything from huawei then.

Did somebody try some kind of dd-wrt/tomato/gargoyle on this? Did you updated version has a BRIDGE mode?
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(newbie) Mon 23-Mar-20 17:52:03
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@kommando hmm when I compare the hardware they looks almost identical... so maybe I try to use b525 soft...

"you have to open up the router and connect 2 pins to allow the firmware to be changed via a usb cable connected to a PC with the right drivers." could you send a pic with those 2 pins? Can you link the drivers and a soft that has a bridge? I have read that you need a USB type A - but I think I can make one my self. Thanks.
Standard User hoopla
(committed) Mon 23-Mar-20 21:26:11
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@hoopla so you want to tell me that there is no DEFAULT huawei software for this router? Only the brands ones?
..

"By the way, if you do flash the firmware to try bridge mode, there seemed to be no way back." wow that is... strange by any means. In a 21th century there is a soft you can't roll(back)over to previous version... or set up a default one. I don't want anything from huawei then.

Did somebody try some kind of dd-wrt/tomato/gargoyle on this? Did you updated version has a BRIDGE mode?
I have no idea whether the original firmware was a branded one. There was no branding visible, so I assume it wasn't, but how could I tell? It was what it was. And although it was advertised as having Bridge Mode, it hadn't.

I downloaded some different firmware and installed it.

No messing with shorting buttons: it had a button that let me select the new local firmware file, and a button to fire up the update. But no way to save the existing firmware or make a backup copy of it.

After the update, there was Bridge Mode in the menu. All fine, apart from the fact that it didn't work.

I could still have installed the original firmware, if I had any way to get a copy, but although I found loads of different versions of the firmware, none were the version I had before, and the only ones that seemed like any improvement refused to load.

So I decided to stick with what I had, until a few days ago, when it decided to update itself in the middle of the night.

I still have a Local Update button, so I could probably revert to the firmware I had, but this one has a nicer UI and it seems to work no worse than the last.

Although I can no longer choose the channels using the router UI, I can use LTEWatch or huaCtrl to do that.

I can't see why you can't just put the other router into a DMZ. That would work much the same as Bridge Mode, wouldn't it? What am I missing?
Standard User henrix343
(newbie) Wed 25-Mar-20 01:17:47
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@hoopla oh I see, thanks for description, so this is perfectly normal firmware update not some ROM writing or data checking buffors, you just cant do a firmware (original) backup, but you can (if it will be available) flash it back. It's clear now.

"Although I can no longer choose the channels using the router UI, I can use LTEWatch or huaCtrl to do that." it's good to know. I think we can live with it smile

"I can't see why you can't just put the other router into a DMZ. That would work much the same as Bridge Mode, wouldn't it? What am I missing? " there is difference when you put router as a bridge or EXPOSE it (DMZ). This work differently, a second router in DMZ actually leads to double NAT (hello DDNS or VPN for example) and "is not the proper way to do things" besides configuring everythin on one device is easy, DMZ in some case are dangerous (some protocols simply do not works in this scenario). But I will consider it, if I cant set up an bridge (which is ->HILARIOUS<-).
Standard User kommando
(regular) Wed 25-Mar-20 11:41:32
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All the info is on a french site so google translate is involved so I have not tried it.

I would not do it but you can try if you accept the risk of bricking your B525.
Standard User henrix343
(newbie) Wed 25-Mar-20 14:24:07
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Can you post the link? I have B535. After contacting huawei "support" and do not get any proper answer - the only option is to upgrade soft to B525 version (but they are different kind of devices - cat5 vs cat6), or use DMZ mode.

So I guess I will try that, but I really think of buying a new - fully configurable (OS supported) router.
Standard User kommando
(regular) Wed 25-Mar-20 18:51:32
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I never bookmarked it but it was on this website's forum


https://routeur4g.fr/
Standard User kommando
(regular) Fri 27-Mar-20 11:42:15
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Bootstrap photo

https://i.postimg.cc/02GwNNwn/b525-bootshot.jpg

Its a cover off job.
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(regular) Fri 27-Mar-20 18:04:12
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urgh, reminds me of the inside of an old console......back in the glory days when everything wasn't too small to solder.
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