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(deleted) Sun 08-Mar-20 12:57:09
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Three 4G Router slower than Phone???


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I have Three's 4G Home Broadband with the supplied router Huawei B535-232.

I also have a Oneplus 7T also on Three.

The router is in an upstairs window with a fairly direct line of site to the transmitter (I'm in a village, & there appears to be only one available transmitter for Three)

Why does my phone always get 2 to 5 times faster up/down speeds than the router on the same network, on the same transmitter at the same time????

The phone doesn't even need to be in as advantageous a position as the router!!!!!
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(deleted) Sun 08-Mar-20 14:22:55
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Because your phone has far newer connectivity tech (LTE Cat.16) with the mast than the B535. (LTE Cat.7)

I know, it does my head in why mass produced 4g routers don't have the same level of tech as mobile phones.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 08-Mar-20 14:33:31
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In reply to a post by buggerlugs:
I know, it does my head in why mass produced 4g routers don't have the same level of tech as mobile phones.
Simple, sales volume. 4G routers sell to a few thousand units, phones sell to a few million units.

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Standard User Ewok
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 08-Mar-20 15:44:24
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In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by buggerlugs:
I know, it does my head in why mass produced 4g routers don't have the same level of tech as mobile phones.
Simple, sales volume. 4G routers sell to a few thousand units, phones sell to a few million units.


Still makes no sense. Why would sales volume mean they stick [censored] out of date chips in it? That just means people won't want to buy it or will buy it without knowing the performance will be [censored]).
Standard User lockyatlrg
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 08-Mar-20 15:56:05
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Which routers have the CAT 16 or better chipsets?

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 08-Mar-20 16:01:33
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In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:
Which routers have the CAT 16 or better chipsets?
As an example:

Netgear 810 is Cat 12:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-AC810-100EUS-Broadb...

Netgear M1
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Mobile-Ho...

Netgear M2
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Mobile-Ho...

and the 5G Netgear M5 is "coming soon":
https://www.netgear.co.uk/home/products/mobile-broad...

As you can see the higher performing devices from Netgear, are a lot more expensive than the ones supplied by Three, Vodafone and others with mobile broadband packages. It is a shame the desktop, mains powered, don't use these chipsets. (from Qualcomm I believe in the Netgear products).

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Edited by jchamier (Sun 08-Mar-20 16:04:15)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 08-Mar-20 16:02:00
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Because most people don't know the difference? Don't read forums like this?

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(deleted) Sun 08-Mar-20 16:44:07
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Absolutely. Take any mass produced mobile phone that is say 12 months old and it will come with LTE CAT 12 or higher, so why are brand new routers even produced with anything less?
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(deleted) Sun 08-Mar-20 17:01:48
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Wow, I never realised! :0

I was thinking of installing an external pole mounted antenna for around £150.

Would I be right in thinking that I'd be better off junking the supplied router and replacing it with something like the Netgear AC810 for only slightly more money????

Thanks for all the responses smile
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(deleted) Sun 08-Mar-20 19:10:56
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Honestly at this point in time with my experience of LTE broadband currently, I'm not so sure.

The sheer amount of variables that can affect the quality and strength of the LTE signal mixed with the questionable quality of the hardware on offer making the connections, coupled with the quality of the carriers backbone and mast hardware, I think a half decent mobile with the B535 rabbit ears fitted would probably be a great "if not ideal" solution! wink
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