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Standard User DanielCoffey67
(member) Sat 11-Jul-20 14:02:25
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Finding where my 4G mast is located?


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I am considering buying a Directional LPDA 4G antenna to try to improve my signal but first would like to know where my current mast is actually located and hopefully which bands it supports. Are there any public resources that would help with this?

My current antenna is a +8dB Omni with both H and V polarized connections.

I am with EE and my modem currently reports Band 3 visible (but does not say anything about band 20). The modem also states the following for my Cell...

Operator : EE
Band : LTE EUTRAN-3
Global Cell ID : 4880130
Location Area Code : 65534
MCC : 234
MNC : 30
RSRP (Signal Strength) : -91 dBm
RSRQ : -12 dBm
RSSI : -58 dBm
SNR : 2.2 dB

This is about the very best it reports. The RSRP varies from -91dBm down to -94dBm (although my neighbour is getting -96dBm down to -98dBm due to trees). The SNR goes from about -4dB up to about +5dB.

On-peak download speeds are around 10-15Mbps down, 10-15Mbps up. Off-peak speeds are around 30-40Mbps down and 20-25Mbps up.

EDIT : I can also add the following information...

root@OutdoorRouter:~# qmicli -d /dev/cdc-wdm0 --nas-get-cell-location-info
[11 Jul 2020, 14:04:42] -Warning ** [/dev/cdc-wdm0] requested auto mode but no MBIM QMUX support available
[/dev/cdc-wdm0] Successfully got cell location info
Intrafrequency LTE Info
UE In Idle: 'no'
PLMN: '23430'
Tracking Area Code: '46073'
Global Cell ID: '4880130'
EUTRA Absolute RF Channel Number: '1617' (E-UTRA band 3: 1800+)
Serving Cell ID: '248'
Cell [0]:
Physical Cell ID: '248'
RSRQ: '-13.0' dB
RSRP: '-89.5' dBm
RSSI: '-56.4' dBm
Cell [1]:
Physical Cell ID: '247'
RSRQ: '-14.4' dB
RSRP: '-89.1' dBm
RSSI: '-65.7' dBm
Cell [2]:
Physical Cell ID: '131'
RSRQ: '-20.0' dB
RSRP: '-98.3' dBm
RSSI: '-66.0' dBm
Cell [3]:
Physical Cell ID: '211'
RSRQ: '-19.1' dB
RSRP: '-97.4' dBm
RSSI: '-65.7' dBm
Cell [4]:
Physical Cell ID: '99'
RSRQ: '-20.0' dB
RSRP: '-97.9' dBm
RSSI: '-66.4' dBm
Interfrequency LTE Info
UE In Idle: 'no'
Frequency [0]:
EUTRA Absolute RF Channel Number: '6225' (E-UTRA band 20: 800 DD)
Selection RX Level Low Threshold: '0'
Cell Selection RX Level High Threshold: '0'
Cell [0]:
Physical Cell ID: '112'
RSRQ: '-9.0' dB
RSRP: '-74.1' dBm
RSSI: '-57.4' dBm
Cell Selection RX Level: '0'
Cell [1]:
Physical Cell ID: '342'
RSRQ: '-20.0' dB
RSRP: '-90.2' dBm
RSSI: '-57.5' dBm
Cell Selection RX Level: '0'
Cell [2]:
Physical Cell ID: '295'
RSRQ: '-19.4' dB
RSRP: '-85.8' dBm
RSSI: '-58.1' dBm
Cell Selection RX Level: '0'
Cell [3]:
Physical Cell ID: '113'
RSRQ: '-20.0' dB
RSRP: '-85.6' dBm
RSSI: '-57.4' dBm
Cell Selection RX Level: '0'
Cell [4]:
Physical Cell ID: '60'
RSRQ: '-16.5' dB
RSRP: '-84.7' dBm
RSSI: '-60.5' dBm
Cell Selection RX Level: '0'
Cell [5]:
Physical Cell ID: '348'
RSRQ: '-20.0' dB
RSRP: '-91.0' dBm
RSSI: '-58.0' dBm
Cell Selection RX Level: '0'
Cell [6]:
Physical Cell ID: '271'
RSRQ: '-20.0' dB
RSRP: '-88.5' dBm
RSSI: '-59.2' dBm
Cell Selection RX Level: '0'
Cell [7]:
Physical Cell ID: '0'
RSRQ: '0.0' dB
RSRP: '0.0' dBm
RSSI: '0.0' dBm
Cell Selection RX Level: '0'
LTE Info Neighboring GSM
UE In Idle: 'no'
LTE Info Neighboring WCDMA
UE In Idle: 'no'

Edited by DanielCoffey67 (Sat 11-Jul-20 14:09:11)

Standard User gary333
(committed) Sat 11-Jul-20 14:13:53
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Re: Finding where my 4G mast is located?


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If this is an approx location:
B743, Mauchline, East Ayrshire, Scotland, KA5 6HH, United Kingdom

Then this is your cell:

https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=234&MNC=30&type=L...
Standard User DanielCoffey67
(member) Sat 11-Jul-20 14:20:06
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Re: Finding where my 4G mast is located?


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It is in the rough area but I am surprised if that is the one I am picking up. There are several much closer towers in our area which seemed to be where EE was transmitting from. That one is about 8 miles away and there is one in line of sight about 3.5 miles away which I thought was the principal mast in the area. It was located to the south of Mauchline at Coalhall.

I don't seem to be able to search on CellMapper and get sensible results. Do I have to be registered to be allowed to search on MCC and MNC?


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Standard User gary333
(committed) Sat 11-Jul-20 14:32:49
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Re: Finding where my 4G mast is located?


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If you zoom in on the map and select mast: eNB ID 19063. This contains cell ID: 4880130. It points towards a place called "Coalhall" 7 "Drongan"

Hope this helps smile
Standard User gary333
(committed) Sat 11-Jul-20 14:45:11
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Re: Finding where my 4G mast is located?


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Search using postcode on cell mapper, don’t work very well.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 11-Jul-20 14:52:39
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Re: Finding where my 4G mast is located?


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You need an android phone on the same network (PAYG SIM with no credit works) and run cellmapper. That will show you on a map.

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Standard User DanielCoffey67
(member) Sat 11-Jul-20 15:19:00
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Re: Finding where my 4G mast is located?


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Well having had a look in Google Streetview, I can understand why that cell has been picked for me despite the distance. It is MUCH higher than me and has an unimpeded view for miles!

I have had to revise my memory of distance as of course the distance on the road never matches the line of sight distance. I knew it was a 9 mile ride to Mauchline on the bike but Google Maps puts it at exactly 7 miles as the haggis flies.

The nearer one at 1.5 miles (3 miles to drive) that I have direct line of sight on must be a weaker transmitter as I picked the end of the house that could see it.

Thanks for the help. Now to think about whether a LPDA will be useful or not since I can't see the distant cell to aim the antenna at it. I suppose I could take a bearing off Google Maps and get the installer to just point to a bearing.

I wonder how fussy a directional is going to be in terms of degrees off target?
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