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Standard User Highland76
(committed) Mon 19-Oct-20 08:05:22
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Re: Nighthawk R7100LG According to AAISP wont do VPN


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Is this that router...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-RT-AC86U-AiProtection-...

And dont i require a Modem built into the router [im unsure] i know i did when i had fibre [those were the days]

This is just a router ?

Correct, the RT-AC86U is just a standard router, it doesn't have LTE radios built in. However the 4G-AC86U doesn't seem to be available anywhere so you might want to consider the 4G-AC68U instead which is cat 6 LTE (up to 300 Mbps) rather than Cat 12 (up to 600 Mbps). Like the 4G-AC86U, the 4G-AC68U also supports full fat encrypted VPN (PPTP, L2TP over IPSec, OpenVPN etc).

https://www.asus.com/Networking/4G-AC68U/overview/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-4G-AC68U-AC1900-Router...

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 19-Oct-20 08:18:38
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Re: Nighthawk R7100LG According to AAISP wont do VPN


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I think the Asus VPN Client setup is using the L2TP over IPSec protocol so it offers at least some degree of encryption - certainly far better than standalone L2TP.
Gotcha! I think I've found the GUI and it might be different as I switched to Merlin's version for the enhanced logging. The L2TP hides under PPTP and then there is a toggle. smile

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 19-Oct-20 08:19:27
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However the 4G-AC86U doesn't seem to be available anywhere so you might want to consider the 4G-AC68U instead which is cat 6 LTE (up to 300 Mbps) rather than Cat 12 (up to 600 Mbps). Like the 4G-AC86U, the 4G-AC68U also supports full fat encrypted VPN (PPTP, L2TP over IPSec, OpenVPN etc).

Its a shame as Cat 12 is better on most built up areas on EE - although if rural there is likely to be no difference.

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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 19-Oct-20 15:27:17
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Re: Nighthawk R7100LG According to AAISP wont do VPN


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If i go down this route then many thanks mate for the information, seems crazy in the scheme of things given this router cost £300 and i can not get this to work.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 19-Oct-20 16:38:01
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Re: Nighthawk R7100LG According to AAISP wont do VPN


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If i go down this route then many thanks mate for the information, seems crazy in the scheme of things given this router cost £300 and i can not get this to work.

What you're trying to do is not something most router manufacturers would have seen as a need.

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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 19-Oct-20 16:38:29
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To be honest having read through the majority of help and i very much thank the guys for all the contributions made.

I have decided since there is no real solution here and we are now talking buying other equipment to get this working I'm going to leave it as it is for now.

I was hoping that this router had the capabilities to do this AAISP stuff and it would be basically a 1 minute set up sequence without all the confusing aspects it seems to have amassed.

To be fair a lot of the stuff is well over my head and understand very little of the help provided, most people like myself get a router go to the login menu put a username/password configuration and never ever use the internals of the router ever again until they possibly have internet problems.

And even then the majority i would say would not even know how to login to there router as a basic function.

I get by but the people on here are on another level , and sometimes i don't think those with the great knowledge understand how even a little thing like finding a certain setting in a router and changing a few things is a major headache to most people.

Guys have posted some great stuff but as of yet no clear instruction how i can get this working on this router with AAISP said does not work ?
Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 19-Oct-20 16:44:28
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Re: Nighthawk R7100LG According to AAISP wont do VPN


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Are we 100% sure this router will not do what is required, i would ring Netgear but thats a cost for technical support.

When the people providing the VPN or whatever you want to call it says it wont work then to be honest i have very little hope i will achieve anything also.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 19-Oct-20 18:21:16
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I have decided since there is no real solution here and we are now talking buying other equipment to get this working I'm going to leave it as it is for now.

Understood. To clarify, the simplest solution is to connect the EE supplied router to the Netgear's Ethernet WAN port, and change some settings on the Netgear. Unfortunately as the two units use different size SIMs you might use an adaptor, or have to swap.

I was hoping that this router had the capabilities to do this AAISP stuff and it would be basically a 1 minute set up sequence without all the confusing aspects it seems to have amassed.
Did you try the setting that Highland suggested? pages 28/29/30 in the user manual, where you could type in the AAISP provided username and password information. It might not work, but is worth a try.

To be fair a lot of the stuff is well over my head and understand very little of the help provided, most people like myself get a router go to the login menu put a username/password configuration and never ever use the internals of the router ever again until they possibly have internet problems.

The problem is that you have a special case of needing to use two internet providers to make your games work. The games themselves really need updating.

And even then the majority i would say would not even know how to login to there router as a basic function.
Which is why if you go for fixed line broadband from any of the "big 5" you get supplied a box, and a helpdesk that knows their way around that box. They won't help with any third party hardware. AAISP are very specialist and can provide services that the big 5 wouldn't bother with.

I get by but the people on here are on another level , and sometimes i don't think those with the great knowledge understand how even a little thing like finding a certain setting in a router and changing a few things is a major headache to most people.

Understood. I've been working with computers, networks, and router type things for 25 years. smile

how i can get this working on this router with AAISP said does not work ?
As above, try the settings suggested, but if that does not work, your only choice is the two box setup, EE box with the SIM in, connected to the Ethernet WAN port on the Netgear, and then the AAISP settings in the Netgear.

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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 19-Oct-20 23:30:35
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I don't see these pages mate on my router as suggested by Highland on page 28.

Thanks Jchamier for this ,to be honest mate i need step by step instructions with someone that is looking at the exact thing i am.

No way I'm using 2 routers to get this working, unless i have major problems with the upcoming series x and playstation 5.

To be honest if this router does not do it and the choice is how you say [2 routers] i would in the long run prefer to get a router suggested by you guys that could do what i want and what i need.

But i would only purchase such equipment if it was certain to work and fix the strict nat and disconnection issues and help from yourself or highland.

If only i had fibre i would not have any of these issues, thankfully 4g in a way is a saviour for us,bt claim we have fibre and we did when we first moved here, but to call it fibre with a 500mb to 1meg at best connection is a joke, it took us 6 months to get out of the contract as we told bt it was not fit for purpose .

Even when they agreed to cancel with about 20 hours on the phone to them they still proceeded to charge us even though they claimed they would not.

Edited by time2die (Mon 19-Oct-20 23:34:02)

Standard User Highland76
(committed) Tue 20-Oct-20 00:12:41
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Are you not able to access the Netgear settings in any browser by going to www.routerlogin.net or 192.168.1.1 from any pc connected to the Netgear?

If you bought one of those LTE Asus routers I mentioned earlier then they would allow you to use a proper encrypted VPN over the built in LTE on it so that’s a guaranteed 1 box solution. But you could potentially be wasting money if the Netgear is able to do the same.

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