In reply to a post by pluralist:

How much does a cup of coffee cost in the EU?

It can cost me up to £45 a trip in charges, that's more than I would expect to pay for coffee in EU as I make my own, as well as being in excess of anything I pay for coffee, but more to the point, it's an excess charge which doesn't need to be made. Their excuse for this charge is "the SIM is primarily for use in UK", well that's fine, just look at my usage and even in a extreme case 60% in a year is in UK, and most years it's a lot higher use in UK.
p.s. Another thing you can get caught out on, if you use more data in EU than you usually use in UK, they reserve the right to charge 1p/MB, so for instance, if you pay £10 month for the 10GB package, but only use 4GB in UK, go to EU and between 4GB and 10GB you could get charged extra even though you pay for 10GB.

Edited by burble (Tue 14-May-24 10:42:04)

I'm not sure you got my point. For starters, if you are making your own coffee when in the EU then you are not the norm.

The question was comparing the £1 per day to the cost of a coffee in a coffee bar or restaurant or hotel/B&B. Possibly several of those per day.

In reply to a post by pluralist:

I'm not sure you got my point. For starters, if you are making your own coffee when in the EU then you are not the norm.

The question was comparing the £1 per day to the cost of a coffee in a coffee bar or restaurant or hotel/B&B. Possibly several of those per day.

Like thousands of Brits I have travelled extensively across the EU (and the wider world) in motorhomes.

As EE charge £2.47 per day for EU roaming unless you buy the £25 per month roaming add on then I would say 1p mobile is not bad at £1 per day. You can buy the add on for just one month but if going for less than 11 days it is cheaper to pay per day.

I heard these are better for all worldwide and EU for roaming https://www.betterroaming.com/

In reply to a post by ian72:

As EE charge £2.47 per day for EU roaming unless you buy the £25 per month roaming add on then I would say 1p mobile is not bad at £1 per day. You can buy the add on for just one month but if going for less than 11 days it is cheaper to pay per day.

I wouldn't like to defend the EE charge, but just to note that using 1pMobile could cost over £200 for 45 days of use at 10GB per month

In reply to a post by pluralist:

How much does a cup of coffee cost in the EU?

That's a very interesting question. Generally, a cup of coffee uses 15 grammes of coffee beans.

The market price of coffee beans is about £1.50 per KG, but by the time they have been roasted, packaged and retailed, that is more like £2.50. It's much the same in the EU as in the UK.

So the cost of a cup of coffee is about 3.75p. Plus the cost of heating the water, which is about 0.01KWh, costing 0.2p. Let's be generous and round up to 4p.

That's the cost, mind. There's a markup at every stage. Retail, coffee beans cost more like £10 per kilo, making a cup about 15p

I have a suspicion that you were referring to the charge for a coffee in a cafe, rather than the actual cost of a cup of coffee.

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In reply to a post by ian72:

As EE charge £2.47 per day for EU roaming unless you buy the £25 per month roaming add on then I would say 1p mobile is not bad at £1 per day. You can buy the add on for just one month but if going for less than 11 days it is cheaper to pay per day.

I wouldn't like to defend the EE charge, but just to note that using 1pMobile could cost over £200 for 45 days of use at 10GB per month

Just to be clear, this is not some theoretical 'what if', it's what 1p customer services have told me I'll be charged for the second 45 days of a EU visit if I use my full 10GB 'contract'. This leaves me considering going back to the 'bad old days' of 10+ years ago when I would buy a local sim in a supermarket.

In reply to a post by burble:

In reply to a post by burble:

In reply to a post by ian72:

As EE charge £2.47 per day for EU roaming unless you buy the £25 per month roaming add on then I would say 1p mobile is not bad at £1 per day. You can buy the add on for just one month but if going for less than 11 days it is cheaper to pay per day.

I wouldn't like to defend the EE charge, but just to note that using 1pMobile could cost over £200 for 45 days of use at 10GB per month

Just to be clear, this is not some theoretical 'what if', it's what 1p customer services have told me I'll be charged for the second 45 days of a EU visit if I use my full 10GB 'contract'. This leaves me considering going back to the 'bad old days' of 10+ years ago when I would buy a local sim in a supermarket.

In the end I decided to go down the 'local sim' route for most of my data, this meant I 'only' paid £30 extra (£1/day after 60 days), just to keep my phone on to recieve calls and use minimal amount of data on the 1p sim.
For my next long trip I'll give myself more time to check on which operator gives a good deal on roaming. GF meanwhile is on Lebara and didn't have any extra charges, although she doesn't use a lot of data, and used the phone more for calls and texts.