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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 31-Jan-23 15:21:08
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Re: Is 5g a con?


[re: bobble_bob] [link to this post]
 
half hearted rollout, only Three seem to be taking it seriously.

e,g, in my city three has about 80% coverage.

EE has close to 100% 4G coverage but barely 3% 5G coverage, Looks like BT as new owners of EE stopped the previous EE investment on new masts.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 31-Jan-23 15:23:21
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Re: Is 5g a con?


[re: jpm] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jpm:
I think your problem is O2. I can pull 150Mbps through a weak Vodafone 5G connection that according to them shouldn't be available indoors, strong Vodafone 4G from a rural mast can get 160Mbps. I get over 100Mbps from my not brilliant iPhone on the train with EE.


Even thats not amazing, I get 150mbps indoors on 4G.

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Standard User NBK
(experienced) Tue 31-Jan-23 15:54:20
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Re: Is 5g a con?


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A quick note that 5G here isn't "true" 5G.
Firstly, we don't have mmwave (which is so bad it can't even transmit through a sheet of paper)
Secondly, the UK networks are built on 5G NSA (non standalone) rather than SA which re-uses 4G network core.

I don't even know if there's any 5G SA rolled out in the UK yet....

Currently Plusnet "80/20" FTTC


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Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Tue 31-Jan-23 17:09:47
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Re: Is 5g a con?


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True but i did a speedtest this morning at work. 7am so very quiet time on the network you would think, still only got 20-25mbps
Standard User techguy
(experienced) Tue 31-Jan-23 19:15:31
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Re: Is 5g a con?


[re: bobble_bob] [link to this post]
 
Having had a bit of an interest since getting my first phone when I was 17 in 1999 it seems an ever repeating cycle of hype which equipment manufacturers are more than happy to profit from.

Network equipment manufacturers need to get operators to spend vast sums so come out with new kit that purports to allow them to do more with less:

More subscribers per cell
more power efficiency etc.
New services
cells that cover a wider area, etc.

Operators think 'ehey this is great' so open their chequebooks

Small testbed established, press and bloggers (some of whom should know better) get invited and all go wow and write puff pieces

Network equipment manufacturers may have divisions that make handsets (or have stakes in companies that do) so they come out with handsets that take advantage of the new kit's capabilties.

Operators buy these by the container load to get customers omto the very expensive network they've just started to build.

Rollout continues over years, early adopters rave until majority of traffic shifts and everything slows.

Yes, it's a marketing con.

Virgin (ADSL) => Namesco => Newnet => O2 => Plusnet => Zen => Newnet => Zen => Freeola => Vivaciti (using O2 Wholesale DSL) => Xilo (C&W Wholesale) => Xilo (O2 Wholesale) => Xilo (TT Wholesale due to O2 Wholesale closure) => Zen LLU =>> ZeN FTTP (Openreach 300 Mbps down, 47 Mbps up)
Router: Fritzbox 7530


Note: I don't lay turf for anyone. astro or otherwise, all views and opinions expressed are my own based on experience.
Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Tue 31-Jan-23 19:25:45
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True and ive heard this before. But this wasnt how 5g was sold to us
Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Tue 31-Jan-23 19:50:45
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
I can only speak from personal experience, but in Camberley town centre, my work iPhone 13 can record about 450 download on speedtests to the local 5G service.
Is that speed of any benefit to you for work or pleasure?

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 31-Jan-23 20:08:24
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Not especially … but the OP was bemoaning the speeds they received …

Standard User tdw42
(committed) Tue 31-Jan-23 20:10:43
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Re: Is 5g a con?


[re: NBK] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by NBK:
Secondly, the UK networks are built on 5G NSA (non standalone) rather than SA which re-uses 4G network core.

I don't even know if there's any 5G SA rolled out in the UK yet....

A little, see https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/01/vodafo...
Standard User pluralist
(knowledge is power) Wed 01-Feb-23 01:42:24
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[re: ian72] [link to this post]
 
Are you confusing zyborg47 with the OP?

Connections: OnePlus 8 Pro on Three 4+ (LTE)/5G and at home Three Mobile, with (Three)ZTE MF286D router giving about 113/20Mbps.

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