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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 19-Jul-07 14:35:23
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There's an article in today's Sun about a bloke in Cornwall who had his laptop confiscated by the police for sitting outside someone's house and using their unsecured network. I know this issue has been aired many times here, but I was wondering if anything on the laptop would reveal which network had been connected.
Presumably anyone in the know would disable all logs etc. which could give the game away.
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(deleted) Thu 19-Jul-07 14:55:35
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>>anything on the laptop would reveal which network had been connected.

I expect that the MAC of the laptop was logged by the router through which he was connecting. Plenty of evidence for that on the laptop even if the chap did change the laptop wireless MAC in software.

S.
Standard User gomezz
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Jul-07 00:04:02
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Why would you want to know?


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 21-Jul-07 14:32:21
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The only cases I've seen convicted have relied on the accused admitting the offence and entering a guilty plea. No doubt after some pressure from the authorities.

I would like to see someone actually fight one of these cases. It would then be up to the prosecution to prove the access was unauthorised.

More disturbing is the idea that you can be arrested for suspiciously using a laptop in a car.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 21-Jul-07 14:52:30
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Do you mean would the Police be able to work out which web-pages had been accessed?
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(deleted) Sat 21-Jul-07 14:59:25
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Presumably the network's IP address would be recorded, so any suspicious use would be tracked to that, not the unauthorised user.
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(deleted) Sat 21-Jul-07 15:17:45
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Yes the routers WAN IP address would be recorded, together with the browser used, page accessed, and time. The totality of information might prove it wasn't the router's owner.

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The above information would be stored in the logs of the web-sites visited, not the ISPs.

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Standard User sobernet
(committed) Sat 21-Jul-07 23:10:45
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In reply to:

but I was wondering if anything on the laptop would reveal which network had been connected.




/Dons forensic investigator hat

You'd be surprised what we can find out!!

/puts hat back down

It's a heavy burden and a bit boring sometimes if you ask me!

Craig

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 22-Jul-07 02:50:27
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personally i think its lies. there is no way of knowing (assuming the AP doesnt keep decent logs itself) if it was connected to or not.
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(deleted) Sun 22-Jul-07 02:52:16
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wouldnt the AP record the wrong MAC though?

you cant get done just for having some mac spoofing software on the node. if you did, i would be charged for using my laptop in a car while using backtrack to surf the web as backtrack would be "suspicious activity" as it is a network security suite.

innocent untill proven guilty!

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