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Standard User coffindodger
(newbie) Thu 06-Jan-11 10:54:09
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There is a free WiFi router in my area and I used to be able to pick up/use it. I got adventurous and tried to find out exactly where it was located so I could adjust my aerial on my wireless card. I did find it and a webpage that allowed me access to the router after putting in a user name and password. I looked at the page, then exited. Now it doesn't show up on my WiFi signal anymore. Does anybody know how to gain access to it again if there is no signal being transmitted, without having to reset the router manually, (Pushing reset button) as I still don't know where it is.
The page I navigated to is - http://192.168.0.1/CA_HiddenPage.htm - which is now inaccessible.
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Jan-11 11:01:33
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What do you mean by "free"? "Unprotected," perhaps? Why not talk to the owner of the router?

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Standard User coffindodger
(newbie) Thu 06-Jan-11 11:16:03
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By free, I mean that it is an open access router. Unprotected is what you could call it I guess. I don't know who the owner is or where it is located, but it must be fairly close if I could pick up the signal from my home. The SSID of it was a giveaway. It showed up as 'freeinternetforyou'. So I took this to mean that it was free internet for me.


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Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 06-Jan-11 11:37:23
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If it has vanished, either the router has been shutdown, turned off, moved or is no longer free tongue

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Standard User coffindodger
(newbie) Thu 06-Jan-11 11:45:58
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Very possible, but it seemed to coincide with me being on the page I mentioned above and then exiting the page. I think that somehow there was a default setting on the page with something set and when I exited it loaded them and disabled it.
I have a WiFi locator program and it used to show up on it along with my neighbours Sky, BT Home Hub, etc... and also in the utility window for my wireless card along with the neighbours BB setups.
I think I killed it and there are some p***** off people now that used to use it. I believe that once the owner realises that it has been unconfigured, they will reset it and all will be back to normal. It has gone offline before on occasion, (not by my hand) and returned. I hardly used it as the signal strength would only average about 80%.
Standard User BatBoy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Jan-11 11:47:47
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Err, http://192.168.0.1/CA_HiddenPage.htm is a private IP address, non-routable, so is probably on your own network. Sounds like you're giving away internet access to others.



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Standard User coffindodger
(newbie) Thu 06-Jan-11 11:58:29
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The IP address, 192.168.0.1 is, or was, the netgear router address. I used to be able to ping it and it would show as being supplied by carphonewarehouse/talktalk. This isn't my provider, so it's not my network. There are 2 computers in my home and this isn't the IP of either of them.
Standard User BatBoy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Jan-11 12:02:18
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That address is not routable so the only way to access it is if it is on your own network, or if your network is wrongly configured.



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Standard User gmoorc
(regular) Thu 06-Jan-11 12:33:30
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That address is not routable so the only way to access it is if it is on your own network, or if your network is wrongly configured.


I'm assuming that the OP is using the wifi on their laptop to connect to someones wireless router so not using their own network at all? Just like a hotspot.
They'll get an IP allocated and off they go.
Standard User coffindodger
(newbie) Thu 06-Jan-11 12:51:54
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In reply to a post by gmoorc:
In reply to a post by BatBoy:
That address is not routable so the only way to access it is if it is on your own network, or if your network is wrongly configured.


I'm assuming that the OP is using the wifi on their laptop to connect to someones wireless router so not using their own network at all? Just like a hotspot.
They'll get an IP allocated and off they go.


Yes, that's the way it is/was.
I found it by accident. I'm an I.T. tech and work from home on occasion. I was repairing a laptop with a wireless built in and it showed up. I then tried it with my GF's laptop and it worked as well. I then put a wireless card in my base PC and it worked also.
It came in handy when there was an interruption, which happens to us all, on my normal service provider.

Edited by coffindodger (Thu 06-Jan-11 12:53:27)

Standard User BatBoy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Jan-11 13:23:01
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In reply to a post by coffindodger:
Yes, that's the way it is/was.
I found it by accident. I'm an I.T. tech and work from home on occasion. I was repairing a laptop with a wireless built in and it showed up. I then tried it with my GF's laptop and it worked as well. I then put a wireless card in my base PC and it worked also.
It came in handy when there was an interruption, which happens to us all, on my normal service provider.
Sounds like it was on the laptop you were repairing, so it was on your network as I said.



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Standard User coffindodger
(newbie) Thu 06-Jan-11 14:43:23
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In reply to a post by coffindodger:
Yes, that's the way it is/was.
I found it by accident. I'm an I.T. tech and work from home on occasion. I was repairing a laptop with a wireless built in and it showed up. I then tried it with my GF's laptop and it worked as well. I then put a wireless card in my base PC and it worked also.
It came in handy when there was an interruption, which happens to us all, on my normal service provider.
Sounds like it was on the laptop you were repairing, so it was on your network as I said.


No, it wasn't or isn't on the laptop I was working on. I said. "I discovered that there was an open WiFi connection WHILE working on the laptop."
The connection remained long after the laptop went back to the owner. I found that I could access the WiFi through my GF's laptop and my home PC.
This WiFi isn't on my network, as I don't have a network in my home or even a LAN/WAN configured anywhere. Other than my existing BB service provider. Which isn't the WiFi connection in question's provider, TalkTalk.
This is a WiFi signal coming from somewhere outwith my residence, that I am able to, or USED to be able to receive and use.
Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Thu 06-Jan-11 15:26:28
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Given the SID of the router it could have been a honey pot to draw unsuspecting users in in order to spread malware. Or it could be as others have said and just happened to be shutdown - maybe they decided others were using too much of their bandwidth and weren't willing to give it away free anymore.

I would be very loathe to connect to any unprotected wireless network as you never know what nasties are on it - virus checkers and firewalls don't stop everything.
Standard User BatBoy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Jan-11 15:50:12
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And it's against the law to connect to a network you don't have permission for.



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Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Jan-11 20:01:47
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It came in handy when there was an interruption, which happens to us all, on my normal service provider.
That's all right, then.

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Standard User coffindodger
(newbie) Fri 07-Jan-11 08:56:12
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I don't think it was a 'honeypot' trap. It never tried to upload any malicious items to my computers. Even if it did, good luck. No chance as my home PC's are, as I call it, bullet proof. My main area of expertise is anti-virus/hacking. I can hack (but don't) and know when I am being tried to, and know how to and have preventive measures implemented.


As far as this 'Freeinternetforyou' WiFi terminal, I'll post more when I find out more.

Thanks to all for the replies.
Standard User BatBoy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 07-Jan-11 11:06:29
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I'm surprised that you claim to be IT literate yet seemingly unaware of the risks presented by connecting to an unknown network.

I wonder if your employers know what risks you are running on their behalf.

You are aware this unknown network can easily see all your network usage and even launch man-in-the-middle attacks?



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Standard User coffindodger
(newbie) Fri 07-Jan-11 17:48:42
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I'm surprised that you claim to be IT literate yet seemingly unaware of the risks presented by connecting to an unknown network.

I wonder if your employers know what risks you are running on their behalf.

You are aware this unknown network can easily see all your network usage and even launch man-in-the-middle attacks?


Like I stated prior, in a light-hearted manner, I would use it on the chance occasion that my regular ISP was to drop. Which in case, I have a wireless BB dongle for that. So, I have had no reason TO use it. Even if I did, I would use an encryption method for the transmission of sensitive data. Which I do anyway, regardless. As I am aware of what is out there and what can happen. But not to me. Hasn't and won't.
As far as my start of this thread, I was inquiring to follow up what I had started. In this case, stopped. Trying to find the location of the WiFi hotspot. Just another anomaly (<maybe not quite the right word for it) that some tech heads investigate as a timekiller or just something to do.
As far as my employers, they provide my internet access for me at home. All I have to do is log on to their service provider, enter user name and password and I'm online, and still remain free of being part of a LAN/WAN unless I choose to do so through them. They also provide the backup service mentioned above.

Edited by coffindodger (Fri 07-Jan-11 18:05:27)

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