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Standard User umernalla
(committed) Wed 19-Jan-11 14:50:33
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Use Bridged mode to replace homeplugs + ethernet switch?


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Hi,
Done some googling but still not sure I fully understand this so apologies if this is a dumb question.
I currently have an Netgear ADSL Wifi router plugged at the front of the house which is connected to a Homeplug.
At the other end of the house I have a Homeplug which is then connected to a Gigabit switch for sharing the ADSL internet with my wired devices (and to allow the wired devices to connect to each other at Gigabit speed)
Now, I want to do away with the Homeplugs and Gigabit switch and was wondering; if I get a Wireless Gigabit router such as the TPLink TL-WR1043ND and set that to bridge mode would that be a workable alternative? ie the TPLink would connect wirelessly to the NetGear ADSL, then allow my wired devices to share the internet connection but at the same time allow my wired devices to connect to each other at Gigabit speeds?
Thanks in advance!
Standard User Rockh
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 19-Jan-11 16:14:20
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Possibly would work but bridge mode can be a pain and not all kit will work with each other. You are limited to the speed of the wireless connection even if it did work, the homeplugs are generally a better option for that sort of thing.

Dave
Standard User umernalla
(committed) Wed 19-Jan-11 18:56:18
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Thanks - shame about that. Thought I had found a good way forward.

The Devolo homeplug I have performs really poorly on an extension socket - forcing me to use a badly needed wall socket - causing all sort of mess.


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Moderator billford
(moderator) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:03:49
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In reply to a post by umernalla:
The Devolo homeplug I have performs really poorly on an extension socket - forcing me to use a badly needed wall socket - causing all sort of mess.
I've found that they work better on 13A multiway adaptors (this sort of thing), and it effectively gives you your wall socket back.

They don't really like extension leads.

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Standard User umernalla
(committed) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:06:05
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Cheers will try one of those - but the Homeplug looks ugly enough - not sure what the missus will think of a multiway plus homeplug!
I know Devolo now have a new range with built in socket - but too expensive to upgrade..

Thanks
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:08:15
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Why not use an Ethernet cable?
Standard User umernalla
(committed) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:17:05
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Used to have ethernet cables - but they kept failing every 9-12 months - forcing a lifting of carpets, door bars, laminate flooring edging etc each time. Too much grief from the missus. Even tried the flat ethernet cable - lasted even less time!

Might just have to sell my Devolo's on Ebay and upgrade to the new ones....

Edited by umernalla (Wed 19-Jan-11 19:19:39)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:18:27
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Sounds like you laid them on the floor and walked on them. Would you walk on mains cables too?
Standard User umernalla
(committed) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:21:19
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they mostly went round the wall edges but at some points they had to go under a door bar - that was probably the damage point.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:22:36
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Is there no alternative - round the outside for example?
Moderator billford
(moderator) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:23:03
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In reply to a post by umernalla:
I know Devolo now have a new range with built in socket
Got a link for those? It's something I've thought would be an obvious improvement for ages smile

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Standard User umernalla
(committed) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:25:28
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No easy way to get from the front to the back of the house from the outside.
Cheers!
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:26:56
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How about up? Coving forms a nice conduit.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 19-Jan-11 19:44:36
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after alot of nice beep words i got mine to work i use a Belkin N router and a netgear Gigabite N router they work pretty well together but at the end of the day i still use network cables just much easier to set up but if you can get your hands on a cheap Gigabit router id say have a go.
Standard User Sandgrounder
(knowledge is power) Wed 19-Jan-11 22:26:58
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In reply to a post by billford:
In reply to a post by umernalla:
I know Devolo now have a new range with built in socket
Got a link for those? It's something I've thought would be an obvious improvement for ages smile
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Moderator billford
(moderator) Wed 19-Jan-11 22:37:25
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Thanks. I'd swear they weren't in Amazon when I looked before, I obviously didn't look hard enough crazy.

Upgrading might have to wait for a while, my 4 current ones are 85Mbps and I've heard variable results about mixing Homeplugs of different speeds...

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Standard User Sandgrounder
(knowledge is power) Wed 19-Jan-11 22:53:33
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The power of Google strikes again smile



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Moderator billford
(moderator) Wed 19-Jan-11 22:59:47
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Google often seems to have doubts about whether it wants to be my friend crazy

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Standard User Sandgrounder
(knowledge is power) Wed 19-Jan-11 23:07:04
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How did you manage to upset Google? confused



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Moderator billford
(moderator) Wed 19-Jan-11 23:12:01
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It's nothing like that, I think I'm just not very good at guessing search terms when I don't know the proper description of what I'm looking for frown

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Standard User Sandgrounder
(knowledge is power) Wed 19-Jan-11 23:32:33
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I cheated then. I looked up the search term on the Devolo Website.



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Standard User umernalla
(committed) Thu 20-Jan-11 12:18:48
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If you want a pair then the following are cheaper but they are black colour..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Devolo-1579-AVplus-Special-S...

Note the Amazon uk price is cheaper than the main page price but they quoting 1 month delivery time.

Also just spotted the black ones for £80 inc del at dabs.com

Edited by umernalla (Thu 20-Jan-11 12:25:19)

Moderator billford
(moderator) Thu 20-Jan-11 12:31:52
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In reply to a post by umernalla:
but they are black colour..
Colour comes well below price in the requirements list tongue

Thanks.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 25-Jan-11 09:21:16
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I agree about bridge mode being a pain. I�ve had to start using it recently to bridge from the O2 router to my wired LAN and although it works fine for a lot of the time it occasionally loses connection on the WiFi side and then manual intervention is required to re-establish bridging. And although I have 13Mps on the ADSL connection (direct wired TB speed test result) and a good 54Mps WiFi connection I only get about 8Mps into the internet across the bridge (TB speed test result). I guess this is due to latency. I am thinking of going the homeplug route instead, but using the 200 Mps plugs rather than the 85 Mps I have used previously to connect to my Slingbox.
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