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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 05-Mar-11 21:50:00
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USB Wireless Dongle to Ethernet. Is it possible?


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Hi,

I have a USB Wireless Dongle (a Netgear WNDA3100) that I would somehow like to connect to my Humax Foxsat HDR satellite box. The Humax has a USB socket and an ethernet RJ45 socket. It did not recognise the dongle in the USB socket, so that leaves the ethernet.

Is there a converter/adaptor of some description that I can use to attach the dongle to the ethernet socket? The dongle requires power from whatever it connects to, so I don't know whether a straight USB to ethernet converter will work. Anyone got any ideas?

BTW, I have tried using a Homeplug, but without any joy as the bandwidth was intolerably slow. I do have a spare Netgear DG834G wireless router with DGTeam firmware on it. Could that be used as some sort of wireless bridge if there is no usb-to-ethernet solution for the dongle?
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(deleted) Sat 05-Mar-11 22:29:08
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Your best bet is using the dg834 as a wireless bridge. Im not sure the exact details with the dgteam firmware but im pretty sure it should work.
Standard User Rockh
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 05-Mar-11 22:54:14
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My folks use homeplug for their foxsat PVR and have no issues. The homeplugs need to be in their own socket not on an extension lead.

Wireless bridging can be a pain, there would appear to be no consistent standard.

Dave


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 05-Mar-11 23:05:59
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What does the manual say about the Humax ethernet and usb sockets? They may be reserved for future use which may mean you are on a hiding to nothing.

The usb in particular may only support a limited functionality.
Standard User Rockh
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 05-Mar-11 23:17:52
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Fully functional ethernet port for on line services ie BBC iplayer etc. The usb is for backup and other stuff from memory.

Dave
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(deleted) Sun 06-Mar-11 00:27:17
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I'm looking to use it for iPlayer. I did get it sort of working with a Homeplug, but the bandwidth was lousy. This was on it's own plug socket, not an extension lead, so I think the electricity circuit may not be on the same loop as the Homeplug for my router. That is why I am looking at wireless.

I had a feeling that the USB socket would just be for backup.

I may just buy a cheap USB to ethernet converter for a couple of quid and see if it works, but I am sceptical to say the least. I was just hoping someone had encountered a similar situation previously and resolved it somehow.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 06-Mar-11 00:35:47
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You are probably right.
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(Unregistered)Sun 06-Mar-11 01:08:19
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I have a USB to Ethernet cable that someone once sent me by mistake !
The USB end is the flat male sort, so it wouldn't be quite what you need.
But presumably what you want is possible.
Regards,
Martin
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(staff) Sun 06-Mar-11 10:31:43
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I will state this:

The USB to ethernet will NOT work for you, i.e. it will not bridge the wireless dongle onto an ethernet network. USB devices require a CPU to run the drivers i.e. USB devices are pretty dumb.

Wireless Ethernet bridge is the device you are looking for.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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(staff) Sun 06-Mar-11 10:32:41
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Wrong cable, that cable is for adding an Ethernet port to a computer that only has USB ports, and is still reliant on drivers in the computers operating system.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 06-Mar-11 10:37:49
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you need a wireless client bridge as used for gaming consoles etc. They provide an ethernet connection to a wireless signal

Phil

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 06-Mar-11 10:39:49
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that cable is for adding an Ethernet port to a computer that only has USB ports


presumably it isn't just a cable either.

A "usb to ethernet cable" would be as useful as a pipe fitting to connect mains water to the gas main.

Phil

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(staff) Sun 06-Mar-11 10:45:45
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There will be some electronics but not much, i.e. uisually squeezed into USB plug

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 06-Mar-11 11:40:01
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Thanks for the unequivocal answer. I had a feeling that would be the case.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 06-Mar-11 12:12:00
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The sort of adapter I had envisaged would have had a USB socket, a circuit board, require power and have one or more ethernet sockets. It would look like a wireless access point, without the wireless part. I presume no such device exists.

As it is, I've come to the conclusion that I can probably run a cable from the LNB out on the HUMAX to the back of my Panasonic TV (a TX-L32D26BA), which has both Freeview and Freesat decoders built-in (the Freesat on that is currently unused given that the Humax box uses both LNBs from the satellite dish), and then use the wireless dongle in the USB socket on the TV to give me the required Internet connection for iPlayer on Freesat. Well, that's the plan.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 06-Mar-11 12:26:35
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I find it helps to think of USB devices as devices, and not USB as just some connector standard. A USB ethernet interface as MrS says is driven by the host computer, which needs to have the drivers for that and be configured to load them when the interface is plugged in.

For less than £30 you can get a wireless bridge with an ethernet socket to plug to but it's another box and PSU etc.

Phil

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 06-Mar-11 12:33:43
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As detailed in the other fork of this thread, I've got another option of trying to get iPlayer on my TV, which involves running a satellite cable from my Humax box to my Panasonic TV, which is internet-enabled and has a freesat decoder built-in, so I will give that a whirl.

Failing that I'll see whether my spare DG834G router can be turned into a wireless access point.
Standard User Sandgrounder
(knowledge is power) Sun 06-Mar-11 12:57:23
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In reply to a post by wheeles:
I was just hoping someone had encountered a similar situation previously and resolved it somehow.
Just record the programs on the Foxsat box, then you don't need to mess about with bandwidth consuming iPlayer.

Works with all the other channels, as well smile



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(deleted) Sun 06-Mar-11 13:28:40
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In reply to a post by Sandgrounder:
In reply to a post by wheeles:
I was just hoping someone had encountered a similar situation previously and resolved it somehow.
Just record the programs on the Foxsat box, then you don't need to mess about with bandwidth consuming iPlayer.

Works with all the other channels, as well smile

I trust you didn't mean to be as patronising as your post sounds. Yes, I do know what my Foxsat box can do.

Having iPlayer is a fallback for those situations when either I was not aware of a programme that I would like to have seen and only found out about after it had aired, or when a recording has failed (that happens on occasion).

As to bandwidth, I am on TalkTalk Pro, so that really is not a concern.
Standard User gomezz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 06-Mar-11 15:49:24
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Humax boxes are known to be very picky when it comes to what works and doesn't work with them. Mine is connected via an ethernet lead which is straightforward and painless. There is some relevant discussion over on

http://hummy.tv

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(deleted) Fri 11-Mar-11 12:13:04
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Hi, Ethernet is best, go for the Devolo dLAN 500 AVmini 500Mbps Powerline HomePlug for compatibility, quality and reliability.

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?...

Watch the video http://www.devolo.co.uk/uk_EN/presse/2004-09-23-114....

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(deleted) Fri 11-Mar-11 12:37:02
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I managed to take a cable from the Humax box to my TV and then used the freesat decoder in that combined with the dongle to get iPlayer.
Standard User Deadbeat
(knowledge is power) Sun 13-Mar-11 09:32:58
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In reply to a post by yarwell:
... For less than £30 you can get a wireless bridge with an ethernet socket to plug to but it's another box and PSU etc.

Or if you're a masochist you could try a software kludge via some of these or similar.
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This is what you need.

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/18853116/Netgear-MBRN3...
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