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Standard User keith_thfc
(knowledge is power) Tue 23-Aug-11 07:23:36
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Viewing line stats in bridge mode


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I put my Be* Thomson TG585v7 into bridge mode last night to test a new router through it but now I can't access my normal TG585v7 router landing/management page, http://192.168.1.254/

It just hangs if I try to access it now.

Is there something simple I can do to see this? Just want to check my sync speed but if I log on to my new Netgear router page the up/down speeds are blank (presumably because its connecting via the TG585v7).

Many thanks.

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Tue 23-Aug-11 07:51:51
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I wonder if it is similar to the 2wire2700s in bridge mode. When they are put into bridge mode it is NOT possible to access the management pages including stats from the LAN, what is needed is to manually set the PC IP address (192.168.1.250 or 192.168.1.1 as there will be no DHCP server running) and then plug it in to the modem/router directly.





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Standard User OCdragon
(experienced) Tue 23-Aug-11 10:14:33
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Or resetting your "Thomson TG585v7" to its Factory Default may help!

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Standard User keith_thfc
(knowledge is power) Tue 23-Aug-11 10:52:14
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Re: Viewing line stats in bridge mode


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In reply to a post by OCdragon:
Or resetting your "Thomson TG585v7" to its Factory Default may help!
Thanks but if I do that then it will reset itself to normal (non-bridge) mode which I don't want to do at the moment.

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Tue 23-Aug-11 10:52:20
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In reply to a post by OCdragon:
Or resetting your "Thomson TG585v7" to its Factory Default may help!

reset to default will take it out of bridge mode ...





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Standard User keith_thfc
(knowledge is power) Tue 23-Aug-11 10:55:53
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In reply to a post by MHC:
I wonder if it is similar to the 2wire2700s in bridge mode. When they are put into bridge mode it is NOT possible to access the management pages including stats from the LAN, what is needed is to manually set the PC IP address (192.168.1.250 or 192.168.1.1 as there will be no DHCP server running) and then plug it in to the modem/router directly.
Are you saying that I would have to disconnect my PC to Netgear ethernet connection and reconnect my PC to the bridge mode TG585v7 to see the stats?

That makes sense actually but is a fair bit of hassle to do every time I want to check my stats.

Assume there is no easier way that doesn't involve me having to unplug any connections?

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Standard User Adsl24
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 23-Aug-11 11:05:11
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As others suggest, you would need to manually set the IP on your PC's network card to 192.168.1.2, with a subnet of 255.255.255.0 and a gateway of the thomson router, e.g. 192.168.1.254 - you can then go to 192.168.1.254 in your browser.

Note that you need to revert these manual IP settings once done. Not ideal but will work.

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Standard User keith_thfc
(knowledge is power) Tue 23-Aug-11 11:59:19
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In reply to a post by Adsl24:
As others suggest, you would need to manually set the IP on your PC's network card to 192.168.1.2, with a subnet of 255.255.255.0 and a gateway of the thomson router, e.g. 192.168.1.254 - you can then go to 192.168.1.254 in your browser.

Note that you need to revert these manual IP settings once done. Not ideal but will work.
Thanks for that.

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Standard User Adsl24
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 23-Aug-11 12:01:20
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No problem.

Thinking about it, you could simply add the 192.168.1.2 as a secondary IP (in Windows), and add a secondary gateway of 192.168.1.254 - setting the metric of this to 2, and the metric of your normal IP to 1.

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Standard User keith_thfc
(knowledge is power) Tue 23-Aug-11 15:44:53
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In reply to a post by Adsl24:
No problem.

Thinking about it, you could simply add the 192.168.1.2 as a secondary IP (in Windows), and add a secondary gateway of 192.168.1.254 - setting the metric of this to 2, and the metric of your normal IP to 1.
Thanks.

Someone on another forum suggested you could use another ethernet cable to connect the two devices via LAN ports and then you would be able to see the line stats on the bridged device (TG585v7).

Not at home to test this right now - but does that sound like it would work?

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Standard User Adsl24
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 23-Aug-11 15:53:04
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You would by default need to connect the two devices together on the lan side yes, even to be able to access it without having to unplug the pc from the netgear and plug in to the thomson.

But without adding a second gateway it would have no route to get to the thomson IP.

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Standard User greenglide
(member) Tue 23-Aug-11 16:46:58
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When I was using a Thomson BE Box in bridge mode with my Draytek 2820 doing the routing I had port one of the Thomson conected to the WAN 2 input of the router and a second cable connected to port two (I think) of the Thomson connected to one of the four LAN outputs of the Draytek.

It then quite quite happily recognised this and 192.168.1.254 gave me the login screen of the Thomson (the Draytek runs as 192.168.1.3 for historical reasons).

The Thomson is a pile of **** so I ditched it and connected the Draytek diirectly to the ADSL again.

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Standard User gmoorc
(member) Sat 27-Aug-11 15:06:57
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That's what I do with my netgear DG834 in modem mode.
Set it's LAN IP to be on the same subnet as your LAN.
So if your router is on 192.168.2.1 set the modem to 192.168.2.2 or similar.

One cable from the Netgear goes to the Routers WAN port and then a second cable goes to a LAN connection.

I can access the modem from any PC on the LAN this way.
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