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Standard User swayzak
(regular) Wed 25-Jan-12 10:40:19
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Can wired network device speak to wireless device ?


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Hi

Might be a stoopid question ...

My XBox360 is wired by ethernet into my home network (via Devolo homeplug behind TV).

My music server (Win7 netbook) is not wired, but on the wireless network.

Can I get the XBox to "see" the media folders on the netbook (to play music etc.) using this setup or do I have to have both clients on the same wireless network ?

The Xbox automatically disconnects from the wireless network when ethernet is used.


thanks

Edited by swayzak (Wed 25-Jan-12 10:41:08)

Standard User shtu
(experienced) Wed 25-Jan-12 10:48:24
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Should work fine, assuming that you just have a typical network in the house.

If everything connects back to a bog-standard ADSL Router\Switch, should be fine.

Acid test - usually, the router can show you which devices have which IP addresses assigned (It'll be called "DHCP table" or something similar in the router). If both devices are listed, should be fine at the network level, you then need to look at sharing out the folder(s) on the netbook and connecting the 360, don't mess about with consoles myself so can't help you there.
Standard User swayzak
(regular) Wed 25-Jan-12 11:05:40
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Thanks

I tried to allow sharing on the netbook, but the xbox didn't "see" the netbook as a media source.

I'll have to check again & see if I did something wrong.


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Standard User shtu
(experienced) Wed 25-Jan-12 11:47:16
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In reply to a post by swayzak:
I tried to allow sharing on the netbook, but the xbox didn't "see" the netbook as a media source.


Looks you may have to set up your shares via media player, rather than just trying to mount a share.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-xp/help/w...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=6...
Standard User swayzak
(regular) Wed 25-Jan-12 12:30:15
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Thanks

Will check.

Incidently, I just noticed from this site that "most consumer routers are limited to 4 devices connected via wifi":

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/ultimate_r...

Is this really true ? Is my home network really limited to 4 wifi devices at a time ?!
Standard User Daniel_g
(regular) Wed 25-Jan-12 12:37:13
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Hello

I used windows 7 as a media server to the new panasonic tv as the reciever to display the photos folder and music. Laptop is wireless and tv is on the cable as router is by the telly. Does work but found windows 7 media server a bit fiddly. Yesterday I used this after a google search, much nicer after a bit of setting up in the options to dislpay on the Xbox (to you), just the things you want.

Take the sharing options out of the Start, control panel, network and internet, homegroup, advanced sharing settings to not share and use this.

Works on the telly everytime and refreshes the new folders or files (photos folder for me) nice and wuick, only had yesterday , the freebee one.

http://tversity.com/
Standard User Daniel_g
(regular) Wed 25-Jan-12 12:37:58
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Not that I know of. Had phones and laptops going all ok.
Standard User ggremlin
(committed) Wed 25-Jan-12 12:46:28
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ensure the router isn't set for 'wireless isolation'
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 25-Jan-12 12:47:09
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"Most consumer routers support a total of eight connections, four via Wi-Fi, and four via the wired Ethernet ports."

What a load of rubbish. The limit is actually around 250, but generally before then most routers would run out of processing power to handle that many connections.

It is not a hard limit, but most consumer routers will support 10 to 20 users if they are just web browsing.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 25-Jan-12 12:48:08
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Some routers have a feature called 'wireless isolation'

This hides the wireless and ethernet networks from each other, so make sure this is not turned on.

If not sure, tell people what router and someone will check it up.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User swayzak
(regular) Wed 25-Jan-12 12:54:28
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
"Most consumer routers support a total of eight connections, four via Wi-Fi, and four via the wired Ethernet ports."

What a load of rubbish. The limit is actually around 250, but generally before then most routers would run out of processing power to handle that many connections.

It is not a hard limit, but most consumer routers will support 10 to 20 users if they are just web browsing.


Thanks - thought so. Maybe I misinterpreted what he said ...
Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Wed 25-Jan-12 14:01:45
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Some routers used to limit to 16.

You could try pinging the Xbox from the other machine. If it pings then the network itself is OK and it is something with your setup of media sharing.
Standard User shtu
(experienced) Wed 25-Jan-12 14:22:07
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In reply to a post by swayzak:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/ultimate_r...


There really is some drivel on there. (if you need that many devices, buy a switch and connect every device to that, including the router, messing about with multiple 4-port routers isn't really the best method.)


ping test suggested above is a good idea, after that it's down to the setup of media player \ a.n.other media streamer.
Standard User swayzak
(regular) Thu 26-Jan-12 08:44:24
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Thanks all

It works now - I think the problem might have been that WMP11 hadn't completed the scan of my 320GB music collection !
Standard User Daniel_g
(regular) Thu 26-Jan-12 10:09:39
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HOW MUCH!.

I have 5.47Gb and was not expecting that. Just a bit I have got over a few years but sits there and never used.
I like the media server for photos to the telly, my real use but now from sept on can't do as .MPO files not jgp as 3d camera photos and so lost the option, Wrote to panasonic and got not planning on upgrading the feature, Got your £1600 so why care. media server reciever on the telly but does not do 3d files or my normal videos so pretty useless unless the right camcorder footage or clips on stills camera and normal jpg what it now does not do as good a nice fujifilm W3 still camera and does 3d video as well. Nice but a pain having to plug the laptop into the side of the telly and use it as a monitor and play slideshow on laptop on 3d viewer software.

Hopefully a box of tricks will come out that has a built in hard disk and plugs in using HDMI lead into telly and plays the 3d stills and video. Just there under the telly. Better than moving computer to it evertime we want a film show of outings or holiday.

Still wait and see what the model in 7 years or so when this gets replaced or dies.

3d telly, nice but a rip off 2010 when I got mine, 1/2 the price now.

Rant over.
Glad it is going.
I think the DLNA is good for music and normal still. For me not so much now. Ok when I got the telly Dec 2010 as still on old camera, now 3d one , not. Does not do but I know the computer is the problem as well so hopefully software and stuff built into the telly will alow for 3d files one day.
Standard User dewi
(learned) Thu 26-Jan-12 10:30:11
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In reply to a post by swayzak:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/ultimate_r...


Wow, what a spectacularly uninformed article! Why would anyone want to daisy-chain multiple 4-port routers together when a single Gigabit switch would do the same job much more cheaply and efficiently?

As you suspected, the claim that "Most consumer routers support a total of eight connections, four via Wi-Fi, and four via the wired Ethernet ports" is utter tosh.

Following the poor advice in that article would be a waste of money and result in horrendously poor performance.
Standard User TheHorseman
(knowledge is power) Mon 06-Feb-12 21:55:51
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In reply to a post by swayzak:
Incidently, I just noticed from this site that "most consumer routers are limited to 4 devices connected via wifi":

It's not true of my Airport Extreme which is currently showing 7 active wireless devices.

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