SSID for guests - Homehub 5, Brightbox and SKY101

Now I am sure this has been done to death in various forums but it doesnt work for me I suspect because later firmware versions. So requesting help!

I have recently opted for BT Infinity and have received a Home Hub 5. I would like to setup a network for guests to use (preferably with limited bandwidth) for when I have any, so that my devices like Google TV etc do not struggle with more users on the network. Homehub does not seem to be able to provide a feature of allowing creation of multiple SSIDs as Bright box allowed me to.

I have the brightbox lying around. I have tried to use it to set up a guest network. Config as below -

Home Hub 5 - IP Ranges 192.168.1.64 to 192.168.1.253
gateway - 192.168.1.254

Brightbox
Protocol - Routing
IP Static
IP Address 192.168.1.63
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.1.254

trying to apply this config on Brightbox gives me error which says <<Gateway configured in brightbox>> says you cannot use IP address 192.168.1.63. Please choose IP as dynamic or check IP address.

if I leave the IP address as dynamic and configure default gateway as 192.168.1.254 on Brightbox, it starts routing and any devices connected to homehub lose internet connectivity.

How do I configure Brightbox so that I can use the Brightbox SSID as guest with limited bandwidth and homehub for my own devices? Is homehub a better device allowing 2.4 Ghz and 5Ghz connectivity or does it make sense to use HH as a modem and Brightbox as router so I can set up multiple SSIDs and limit bandwidth for guest SSID?

Thanks in advance!

Have you turned off DHCP in the Brightbox?

Yes I turned off DHCP on bright box. Sorry, should have mentioned.

In reply to a post by diddlypockets:

Yes I turned off DHCP on bright box. Sorry, should have mentioned.

I don't know anything about the Brightbox so cannot really add anything more.

The Homehub offers a separate SSID for BT Wifi, so you could give your guests your username and password for that

Do you mean BT WiFi like BT openzone? That's accessible only to BT subscribers though?
Or if it's not BT openzone WiFi then how do I configure the guest BT WiFi?

Ok MHC thanks for replying.

In reply to a post by diddlypockets:

Do you mean BT WiFi like BT openzone? That's accessible only to BT subscribers though?
Or if it's not BT openzone WiFi then how do I configure the guest BT WiFi?

Yes, BT Wifi is the renamed BT Openzone. I thought you are a BT subscriber which is why I suggested you give them your username and password - change it afterwards, obviously.

Your BT WiFi password is (on some accounts) one of your account passwords so I would suggest not doing it that way or you will be forever changing passwords or leaving it open to abuse.

I am a BT subscriber. What you say will work in theory but I don't want to give guests my BT WiFi password. It's not as good an experience for guests and as MHC says will be a hassle maintaining the password all the time.

I prefer a solution where I share my own network within limits I set out.

Edited by deleted (Tue 08-Sep-15 20:45:10)

You could always buy a router that allows guest ssids if you can't get the bright box to work then

In reply to a post by diddlypockets:

Brightbox
IP Static
IP Address 192.168.1.63
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.1.254

trying to apply this config on Brightbox gives me error which says <<Gateway configured in brightbox>> says you cannot use IP address 192.168.1.63. Please choose IP as dynamic or check IP address.

You must leave the BB's IP addy as Dynamic,Then you give the BB the Gateway addy of 192.168.1.63 in its DHCP section. You must not have the HH5 & the BB having the same Gateway addy

In your next step when you gave the BB the Gateway addy of 192.168.1.254 it did start routing but then all devices were confused as to which gateway they were connected to.

haha, yes I could. but I am diddlypockets! no money to spend on vanities like separate SSID for guests besides I have the old ones that should work...

thanks XRaySpeX.
Sorry have been aware a few days and did not see your reply. My past experience says that when I leave BB's IP addy as Dynamic and configure the 63 IP Addresss to Gateway of BB, it seems to take over routing from HomeHub. Any devices connected to HH5 lose Internet and those connected to BB can connect to Internet - net result is that I end up with only one SSID.

I know BB allows creation of another SSID, I dont want to lose the 5GHz network that HH5 offers though......