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Standard User bazregan
(newbie) Fri 02-Feb-18 09:26:52
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Second router /WAP with long Ethernet cable on Vodafone BB


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Hi All,

this is a "for information" post rather than a question.

I have a home office at the end of my garden, while my broadband connection (FTTC) is at the front of the house. The office is connected to an Ethernet socket inside the house next to the incoming master socket. An external cat5 data cable runs round the outside of the house to the garden then runs underground to the office, terminating in another Ethernet socket in the office. Total length of the run is about 230ft.

The router in the house provides Wifi, plus wired connections to the TV, Xbox and an Ethernet power extender to provide Wifi in the kitchen. The final Ethernet connection on the vendor router is then wired into the socket for the office. At the office end the cable is taken about 2 feet to a DLink 9104 WAP which gives me wifi in the office and a wired connection to my PC.

Reason for the post is that this setup worked well with my BT service, using their standard home hub (I think HH4, anyway, the one before the current one as of this post - I'd had the service several years). However, despite being a customer for a long time, BT's pricing policy meant that I switched to VF Unlimited Fiber 76 service recently.

All went well, service was on at 08:15 (against a plan of 08:00) and speed etc was good, so the main house was all OK. However, the office was completely dead. After a lot!!!!! of messing around on my part, a friend who knows about networking inserted a small 4 port D-Link switch between the new VF router and the socket in the house leading to the office, which solved the problem.

Reason for the post is to highlight (as others have done) that the VF supplied router is very poor and so hopefully this may help people who may want to set up something similar avoid a lof of head scratching/ time and frustration.

Cheers

Barry
Standard User andy88
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 02-Feb-18 10:28:48
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Re: Second router /WAP with long Ethernet cable on Vodafone


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Poor... or as likely, advanced...
in that it saw your PC was Gb capable, and tried to put Gb ethernet connection down a cable not supporting that speed on that long a run. The HH4 was probably not Gb capable (fell back when it did not work)

Putting the Dlink in the way, probably forced the connection back to 100Mb/s only and Cat5 over 70m or so, would be fine,

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Standard User dwg1
(newbie) Fri 02-Feb-18 14:48:18
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These were my thoughts too. In my opinion adding things, can sometimes just complicate matters smile


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 02-Feb-18 17:36:20
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Re: Second router /WAP with long Ethernet cable on Vodafone


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Almost certainly that with a 75m cable length if it had been trying 1Gb then likely to fail and there are plenty of cheap devices that will fail to drive even shorter distances. What speed is the D-link switch running at? The LED on teh RJ45 socket will indicate 10/100/1000.

Also, is it Cat5 or Cat5e cable?


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Standard User ian007jen
(experienced) Fri 02-Feb-18 18:46:45
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Re: Second router /WAP with long Ethernet cable on Vodafone


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I had an old netgear adsl modem/router fail to "run" a 20m length of ethernet cable....changed the PSU and that fixed it.
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