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Standard User jaba
(regular) Thu 30-Jan-20 18:19:54
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New phone no wifi connect


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Just treated myself to a new phone a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite. It seems a good bit of kit except that I cannot get it to connect to my Netgear router a DGND3700v1/3800.

It will connect with no security but not when the routers WPA2-PSK(AES) is enabled. It is the same on 2.4 or 5g. I have two of these routers in use and everything else connects normally except the new phone. Incidentally it does connect to a Huawei 4g router I have so it is not faulty.

I am presuming there is some incompatibility but remain puzzled because WPA2-PSK is not exactly obsolete yet. Any thoughts or advice anyone before I send it back ?
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 30-Jan-20 18:38:46
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Just googled the phone, as never heard of that make before......... crikey.

Standard User busterboy
(committed) Thu 30-Jan-20 22:24:33
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In reply to a post by jaba:
Just treated myself to a new phone a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite. It seems a good bit of kit except that I cannot get it to connect to my Netgear router a DGND3700v1/3800.

It will connect with no security but not when the routers WPA2-PSK(AES) is enabled. It is the same on 2.4 or 5g. I have two of these routers in use and everything else connects normally except the new phone. Incidentally it does connect to a Huawei 4g router I have so it is not faulty.

I am presuming there is some incompatibility but remain puzzled because WPA2-PSK is not exactly obsolete yet. Any thoughts or advice anyone before I send it back ?


Sounds like your not the only one.

Like Zarjaz I have never heard of them either. frown

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 30-Jan-20 23:12:29
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I am presuming there is some incompatibility but remain puzzled because WPA2-PSK is not exactly obsolete yet. Any thoughts or advice anyone before I send it back ?

Did you import it yourself? It may not fully support the European channels, or encryption key lengths compared to China, if it was intended for the Chinese or Hong Kong markets?

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Standard User prlzx
(experienced) Fri 31-Jan-20 00:49:35
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If it connects with no encryption it does support the channels (as I'd expect it to - China and Japan have enough channels in common with Europe).

(You used to have to avoid channels 12 and 13 with much older USA devices if their driver could not operate in a world-wide mode. These days chipsets in infrastructure station (client) mode are meant to defer to accepting channels from the country reg. code set on the AP. They might still be restricted only when operating in AP or ad-hoc mode)

That said, stick to 1-13 on 2.4GHz and 36-48 on 5GHz to be on the safe side. It looks like China does not normally use channels 100-144.

If you have had it connected to the same SSID without encryption you'll need to do "forget network" on the phone after changing back to encrypted on the router(s).

For your encrypted settings you should indeed be only using a WPA2-AES(-CCMP) PSK as that has accelerated performance on the Wi-Fi chipsets.
Avoid any options to fallback to WPA1 or TKIP.

Any new devices wanting to use the Wi-Fi symbol (trademark) since March 2006 have had to pass WPA2 certification so that isn't an issue here in 2020.

I would test setting a very simple passphrase consisting of only numbers to prove there isn't something weird like character encoding affecting the passphrase entry on phone.

Oh and on both routers will need to match passphrase where you use the same SSID
(which you can use on both channels - client devices can then pick whichever band is better which will vary with range and obstacles. If you use different SSIDs in the same location, Android phones will prefer the last SSID you connected to even if the other is stronger. Likewise laptops will have an order of preferred networks that could leave you connected to a weaker network if you move around).

If your second router is just acting as an AP for the same network this will be ok. If the second router presents its own subnet behind the first router, the SSID will need to be different as a hint to the client that it would be connecting to a different network in the same location.



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Standard User andynormancx
(member) Fri 31-Jan-20 08:46:49
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They only have 10% of the global smartphone market...
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 31-Jan-20 09:41:58
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UK marketshare is 1.33% according to one site I checked so not surprising that UK users may not have noticed them in the market - most of their market is going to be China and India.
Standard User GonePostal
(committed) Fri 31-Jan-20 12:08:50
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IIRC Carphone Warehouse used to sell them but I couldn't see any when I checked the Carphone Warehouse web-site yesterday (not to say I checked every page of the site).
Standard User burble
(member) Fri 31-Jan-20 12:51:05
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Had pencilled in the K30 5G as a possible new phone when it comes out, might have to keep an eye out to see if it also has problems. It seems they are one of the many phone manufacturers who don't give much support once they've sold you the phone.
Standard User danielhyde
(learned) Fri 31-Jan-20 13:08:42
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In reply to a post by jaba:
I am presuming there is some incompatibility but remain puzzled because WPA2-PSK is not exactly obsolete yet. Any thoughts or advice anyone before I send it back ?

Did you import it yourself? It may not fully support the European channels, or encryption key lengths compared to China, if it was intended for the Chinese or Hong Kong markets?


That shouldn't be an issue.
I have imported Chinese phones before and have no issues.
My current phone is Ulefone Power 3.
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