Adtran 621 ONT - Remove ISP supplied router?

Hi there,

Today I have had Trooli fibre installed. They have installed an Adtran 621 ONT to bring the fibre in and subsequently added one of their Technicolor DGA4134 routers.

I am wanting to replace the router with a mesh system that comes with its own router and remove the Technicolor altogether, clearly, I will keep it so if there is a tech issue I can engage with their support teams.

What I am not sure about is can I literally plug my new mesh master unit (router) straight into the 10Gbe interface on the Adtran 621 ONT and not have to configure anything? I have yet to choose the mesh system as I want to make sure it's the right one.

Thanks in advance

Steve

That depends on what authentication trooli use.
If they use DCHP/IPoE then it may just be plug and play. If they use PPP then there may be a username and password.
They might actively block 3rd party kit.

There site says this..

In reference to www.trooli.com/help/faqs/:

CAN I USE MY OWN ROUTER?
With a Trooli home broadband service you are not able to connect your own router to the Trooli network.

If you have a Trooli business service and you have also taken our Bridging Service option, you may use third party routing equipment behind a Trooli-supplied Draytek bridge (modem). Non-Trooli equipment connected to the network is not supported by Trooli and we can’t assist with any technical issues that you experience with third party equipment.

Edited by j0hn83 (Fri 22-Oct-21 17:20:18)

If you can't find the connection details from the Technicolor router I suggest that you ask Trooli. You could just try using DHCP.

Be interested to know if you can ditch their router.

Most folks appear to resort to keeping the supplied router and running their own kit downstream. This indicates it’s locked down and/or Trooli won’t release the connection credentials / authentication method.

I suppose if you were desperate you could packet sniff the connection between the ONT and router.

I'd also be interested to know if anyone is running their own kit. I would like to run a Fritz!box 5530 myself but unsure if this could be setup with their network.

Also interested in this. I managed to get my PPPoE username and password by following this guide

Obtain PPPOE Password

The top command worked for me. i.e.

engineer>top
.....
3491 2416 root S 3304 1% 0% /usr/sbin/pppd nodetach ipparam wan ifname pppoe-wan lcp-echo-interval 10 lcp-echo-failure 5 lcp-echo-adaptive set PEERDNS=0 nodefaultroute usepeerdns maxfail 1 user <SOMETHING> password <SOMETHING> ip-up-script /lib/netifd/ppp-up ipv6-up-script /lib/netifd/ppp6-up ip-down-script /lib/netifd/ppp-down ipv6-down-script /lib/netifd/ppp-down plugin connstate.so mtu 1500 mru 1500 plugin rp-pppoe.so graceful_restart /etc/ppp/pppoesession_eth4 nic-eth4 host-uniq <SOMETHING>
.....

I tried putting the user/pass into my google wifi but didn't get very far. I believe it's because google wifi don't support VLAN tagging. I'm going to try with a USG next time I'm on site which is a bit more configurable. Will update here

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Most folks appear to resort to keeping the supplied router and running their own kit downstream.

But Trooli explicitly declare that they will not configure their router in bridge mode unless you take the Business version and the Bridge option for £££ extra. Is it actually possible to configure an "own kit" router to run correctly downstream of another router?

Not ideal, but if bridge (transparent) mode is unavailable (without business/additional paid offering) and you still wish to run your own router for various reasons of having some control of your own LAN, then you could run it on double NAT mode for example.

Sorry I forgot to update. Managed to get my own router working so my Trooli one now sitting back in the box in case I ever need support. I am using a Unifi USG (basic model)

In order to do this your replacement router needs to be fairly configurable. I needed to set 3 things

Text
1 23 45 67	ubnt@rtr2:~$ configure  ubnt@rtr2# set interfaces ethernet eth0 pppoe 0 user-id (replace)@cfsbroadband.co.uk  ubnt@rtr2# set interfaces ethernet eth0 pppoe 0 password (replace)  ubnt@rtr2# set interfaces ethernet eth0 pppoe 0 host-uniq (replace)

All 3 of these values were obtained by ssh into technicolour router and running top command. Search down and find the line

Text

1

2798  2414 root     S     3304   1%   0% /usr/sbin/pppd nodetach ipparam wan ifname pppoe-wan lcp-echo-interval 10 lcp-echo-failure 5 lcp-echo-adaptive set PEERDNS=0 nodefaultroute usepeerdns maxfail 1 user (?????)@cfsbroadband.co.uk password (?????) ip-up-script /lib/netifd/ppp-up ipv6-up-script /lib/netifd/ppp6-up ip-down-script /lib/netifd/ppp-down ipv6-down-script /lib/netifd/ppp-down plugin connstate.so mtu 1500 mru 1500 plugin rp-pppoe.so graceful_restart /etc/ppp/pppoesession_eth4 nic-eth4 host-uniq (?????)[code]

Edited by deleted (Sun 13-Feb-22 06:39:22)

Hi,

I am trying to get rid of Technicolor DGA4134 and replace the same by linksys Velop System. Howerver, its not working

The output @ SSH is very limited as below...

2798 2414 root S 3304 1% 0% /usr/sbin/pppd nodetach ipparam wan ifname pppoe-wan lcp-echo-interval 10 lcp-echo-failure 5 lcp-echo-adaptive set PEERDNS=0 nodefaultroute usepeerdns maxfail 1 user (?????)@cfsbroadband.co.uk password (?????) ip-up-script /lib/netifd/ppp-up ipv6-up-script /lib/netifd/ppp6-up ip-down-script /lib/netifd/ppp-down ipv6-down-script /lib/netifd/ppp-down plugin connstate.so mtu 1500 mru 1500 plugin rp-pppoe.so grace

Question: Can you please help me to get the full output ising the top command? Is there anyway to extract the full the details without any restrictions on number of columns?

Many thanks in advance!

Edited by BritishDrakula (Sun 13-Feb-22 21:20:05)