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Standard User ponyman
(learned) Fri 19-Aug-22 10:30:45
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I live about 100 yards from the nearest road and my nearest neighbour. Because of this I have switched off password protection for anyone wishing to join my network. Am I missing anything?
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 19-Aug-22 11:38:15
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If someone connects to your network and accesses illegal material you will find it very difficult to prove it wasn't you. Someone could also use your connection to spam emails and sites which could then result in your connection going on a block list for various providers. Or someone could connect to the network and hack your devices, get your data, bank logins, etc.

Why would you turn off the password? It isn't particularly onerous to enter a password to connect devices and it helps protects you from the above examples and potentially many other ways someone could misuse it.
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(deleted) Fri 19-Aug-22 13:00:47
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I live about 100 yards from the nearest road and my nearest neighbour. Because of this I have switched off password protection for anyone wishing to join my network. Am I missing anything?
100 yards (91 metres) is not that far to be honest, I am significantly further away from the nearest quiet country lane than that where there is no ability to stop (no pavements either), I also have to drive a lot further to my nearest neighbour and there is no way on earth I would risk turning off security on my WLAN.


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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 19-Aug-22 13:13:07
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no way on earth I would risk turning off security on my WLAN.
With WPA2 and WPA3 it is probably faster to leave it on, the chips and software don't expect it to be off.

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Standard User ponyman
(learned) Fri 19-Aug-22 16:20:13
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but what is the risk?
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(deleted) Fri 19-Aug-22 16:29:34
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but what is the risk?
Consider this question, do you leave your front door unlocked when you go out as you don't live near to a main road or neighbours?
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 19-Aug-22 16:51:53
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but what is the risk?
I mentioned a number in my post - did any of those cause you any concern?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 19-Aug-22 17:09:42
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In reply to a post by ponyman:
but what is the risk?
I mentioned a number in my post - did any of those cause you any concern?
As you say there are so many bad things people can do if they have access to your internal network.
Standard User ponyman
(learned) Fri 19-Aug-22 18:16:38
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Thank you very much for your comments.
The frightening thing is that about 25 years ago I wrote a paper on computer security in which I compared the network as the path up to the front door and stated that the important thing was to have security at the door.
I really should take note of my own statements!
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 19-Aug-22 18:25:26
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I really should take note of my own statements!
If you’re an InfoSec type have a search around these topics:
* Protection of Information in Transit
* Zero Trust
* Defence in depth

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Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Fri 19-Aug-22 22:50:52
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What is the benefit of switching off the password protection? All the wifi devices I have remember the password. I don't have to keep re entering it each time I want to connect.

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Standard User smouty
(member) Sat 20-Aug-22 11:34:23
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but what is the risk?


Also consider that everything communicated over wifi is sent without encryption so anyone within range could easily access everything you do. No wifi protection means your wired network is totally accessible also.

This is not an issue for everyone though if all you are doing is internet browsing and streaming TV.

For the minimal effort of adding a password though that had to be entered once on each device, is it worth the risk?

I'm not sure you could be held accountable for what someone else has done if they access your 'free' wifi. As far as I know, nobody has ever been prosecuted for this.

You are not required to keep logs and it would be required to prove guilt rather than you innocence.
Not a lawyer though so treat as such wink

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 20-Aug-22 16:39:04
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Also consider that everything communicated over wifi is sent without encryption so anyone within range could easily access everything you do. No wifi protection means your wired network is totally accessible also.


It is possible to segregate but not with the free ISP routers. Also WiFi can be picked up at surprisingly long range, even without a pringles can antenna.

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 23-Aug-22 18:05:08
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If nothing else, what you'll find now is that most modern devices will complain about connecting to networks without passwords etc. For that reason alone I would configure something so that everything won't keep showing "unsecured network" etc etc.

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Standard User jamied_uk
(newbie) Thu 03-Nov-22 14:54:15
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how do I make my own post i can only ever see option to reply?
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 03-Nov-22 15:21:24
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