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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Tue 13-Jun-23 11:36:46
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I hate cables


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Just spent a couple of hours in boiling weather, sorting out my Ethernet cables, ready for tomorrow. It would have been better to put everything on wi-fi, well almost everything as my smart thermostat can't be.
I would like to make a better job of it and if this was my own house I would have got someone in to put them in the wall and have patch cables, Not finished yet as I don't want a load of cables where they will be working, so will want to move the TV tomorrow.
But I now have the two cables going to where the ONT will be, one is Wan as i will use my own router, so need a cable from the ONT to it and the other is for the TV, Blueray player and VoIP.

So whose idea was this? smile

i wonder if a decent powerline system would be a better idea? i got some, but they are not that good, which is why I went to a Ethernet connection

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Standard User billford
(elder) Tue 13-Jun-23 12:03:41
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Very much my opinion only:

Wifi can be very convenient, but (once you've got the rat's nest sorted out!) cable is faster and more reliable. I work on the principle that something only gets wifi if there's no option (eg tablet) or constantly moving about (eg laptop), otherwise it's cable. I've said it before- I regard wifi as a device of Beelzebub tongue

Powerline adapters have a bit of a bad name, but I find them useful on occasion- it depends what's on the other end. For something like a printer which doesn't really need a fast connection they're fine; for a NAS you might want to think again tongue

Bill
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Tue 13-Jun-23 12:39:02
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I agree with you Bill, that is why I put as much as I could on Ethernet in the first place. My idea for the cable from the computer room to the living room was to use the existing TV cable trunking, that is if I can get an Ethernet plug down there, I don't think I can, the problem is, when I/if move from here, I would have to put the TV cable back in, not that it have been used as it is not even connected to anything in the loft. The Housing association stuck it in when they rewired the house a few years ago and left it.
I tried my old powerline adaptors a moment ago, the one seem ok, but the other starts up and then all the lights go blank. after a few minutes, so certainly something worng with that.

I am over heqating with all this mucking around and I have to have a shower soon to go to work, will be horrendous there.

Trunking is awful, I would like to find something that will cover the cables and kind of make them blend into the wall. i know it is possible to get skirting board to do that, but again, not my house. i have to replace one by the TV as it is.

Adrian

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Standard User XGS_Is_On
(committed) Tue 13-Jun-23 12:41:52
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Powerline is fine for your needs.

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Standard User GonePostal
(experienced) Tue 13-Jun-23 13:46:10
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Would this sort of subject (the modern day equivalent of a "what I did on my holidays" primary school essay) be better on a social media channel rather than a forum with a technically biased audience?

If there is a genuine question underneath it all then it would probably be better (and would enable more people to get to the meat of the posting) if the incidental waffle was not there.

Edited by GonePostal (Tue 13-Jun-23 13:47:58)

Standard User billford
(elder) Tue 13-Jun-23 14:22:22
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In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:
Powerline is fine for your needs.
The problem I used to have with powerline networking was mostly that (as far as I can find out) there's nothing governing the amount of crud that a piece of electrical equipment is allowed to dump back into the mains. Unlike electromagnetic interference for example. And some can dump a lot.

Back in the days of CFLs I had one bulb that would reduce powerline signalling to a crawl throughout the house... other nominally identical ones were OK crazy. Most brush-type electric motors caused varying degrees of problem, but none as bad as that CFL. (I found that using it in a table lamp through a filtered extension lead made it acceptable and saved me throwing away a lamp that otherwise worked perfectly well!)

But I haven't used powerline for at least 7 or 8 years, so their noise rejection capabilities may have improved.

Bill
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 13-Jun-23 14:33:05
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PowerLine is ok if it works but no guarantee that it will (or at least at reasonable performance).

My own house has the stuff next to the router (TV and the like) wired but I have a WiFi 6 mesh for everything else. The mesh gives speeds generally around the 300Mb/s mark to most of the house so is good enough. Ideally it would all be cabled but that sort of upheaval is not going to get past the wife and not something I would take on myself so would cost a fair bit.
Standard User cjn
(newbie) Tue 13-Jun-23 16:01:46
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In reply to a post by GonePostal:
Would this sort of subject (the modern day equivalent of a "what I did on my holidays" primary school essay) be better on a social media channel rather than a forum with a technically biased audience?

If there is a genuine question underneath it all then it would probably be better (and would enable more people to get to the meat of the posting) if the incidental waffle was not there.


It all reads like "The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole, Aged 13¾"
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(deleted) Tue 13-Jun-23 16:08:28
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In reply to a post by zyborg47:
ready for tomorrow.
Hope everything goes well tomorrow, all the best smile
Standard User GonePostal
(experienced) Tue 13-Jun-23 16:12:15
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“I have decided to keep a full journal, in the hope that my life will perhaps seem more interesting when it is written down.”

Sue Townsend, writer, Adrian Mole: The Wilderness Years (1993)
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