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Standard User Fraycat
(newbie) Wed 14-Aug-13 23:30:46
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Hi,

I've just moved to Cwmbran but stupidly didn't think to check on the broadband connection for my postcode as the house is relatively new I assumed it would be okay.

It transpires that I am in a slow-spot which for someone who plays wow and works from home is not great. I know, I know, I should have checked! I'm getting about 1mb download and 0.4 uploads.

I can see that the exchange has been upgraded and I also see that in the middle of town and around some external roads Virgin Media is active.

I've managed to find out that my cabinet is 67 - how do I find out when I can expect this to be upgraded to fiber? Do I contact BT Openreach? Or the Welsh website?

I'm almost scared to find out if it's 20 and never!
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Thu 15-Aug-13 00:03:13
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should do better than 0.4 upload as ADSL2+ and LLU available http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/SWCRS

http://www.superfast-cymru.com/where-and-when seems to reflect the Openreach site so I would start there.

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Standard User Fraycat
(newbie) Thu 15-Aug-13 00:11:11
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Thanks smile

Those sites don't go down to CAB level though I think? I've e-mailed the Welsh people to start with, hopefully they'll have a contact to ask at BT Openreach!


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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Thu 15-Aug-13 01:07:53
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always worth posting yr postcode in case someone has access to useful info

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 15-Aug-13 07:54:09
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Exchange areas are usually announced
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5976-annoyingly-t...

Exact cab level info tends to only appear just before cabs appear.

To the original poster can you post the router stats there may be more speed available or you really are 7km or more from the exchange

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Standard User wood49
(regular) Thu 15-Aug-13 18:09:07
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I donít know where cabinet 67 is but it is interesting that it is not activated. Cabinet 68 on Ty Canol Way at its junction with Thistle Court is activated. Cabinet 69, Junction of Ty Canol way and Henllys Way is not activated. Cabinet 71 that serves Henllys village is not activated.
This seems to be confirming the rumour that cabinets will be only activated if they are commercially viable.
I would like to know if this is true as I know several people on cabinet 71 and the normal ADSL speeds for cabinet 71 are appalling.
Standard User btbert
(member) Thu 15-Aug-13 18:53:31
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"This seems to be confirming the rumour that cabinets will be only activated if they are commercially viable"

I think BT OR do like to make some money back on them !

these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 15-Aug-13 18:58:52
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Cabinets enabled under the BDUK projects (and some of the new cabinets in Wales may still be part of the commercial roll-out remember) are done on a gap funding basis and the budgets are fixed, so it makes sense for the roll-out to be doing the ones which are closer to being economically viable.

With the clawback mechanism if these early cabinets reach commercial take-up levels, BT may have to give some money back. Which could then be recycled to do those harder to reach cabinets that they thought were not viable originally.

it is a very moveable feast, in part because you don't know all the costs for an individual cabinet, e.g. power until you do all the paperwork and power company reply. Then you get cases where people object to location, and it has to be moved, or fingers crossed this is caught in planning stage when its just a day or so of paperwork wasted.

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Standard User paulby
(committed) Fri 16-Aug-13 17:50:59
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In reply to a post by Fraycat:
I've managed to find out that my cabinet is 67 - how do I find out when I can expect this to be upgraded to fiber? Do I contact BT Openreach? Or the Welsh website?

I'm almost scared to find out if it's 20 and never!


Try this site:

http://fttc-check.alc.im./

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Standard User Fraycat
(newbie) Fri 16-Aug-13 23:24:15
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Thanks everyone for your replies. Paul, we're on the same cabinet!?

I emailed the Welsh site and got the reply that my cabinet will be upgraded but they can't say when. I'll put up the info tomorrow as I'm on the iPad.
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sun 25-Aug-13 23:15:33
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In reply to a post by btbert:
"This seems to be confirming the rumour that cabinets will be only activated if they are commercially viable"

I think BT OR do like to make some money back on them !


Yes this is the case. I know I am not in Cwmbran but I am in Newport and all cabs around me apart from mine are ready to go when FTTC goes live 6th September. Mine is unlikely to be done even though it was put in after the others due to demand!

There are 271 propertys connected and activated on the cab and a NGA is 288 - but BT don't think it's viable. I guess financially It's probably :/
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sun 25-Aug-13 23:17:13
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Cabinets enabled under the BDUK projects (and some of the new cabinets in Wales may still be part of the commercial roll-out remember) are done on a gap funding basis and the budgets are fixed, so it makes sense for the roll-out to be doing the ones which are closer to being economically viable.

With the clawback mechanism if these early cabinets reach commercial take-up levels, BT may have to give some money back. Which could then be recycled to do those harder to reach cabinets that they thought were not viable originally.

it is a very moveable feast, in part because you don't know all the costs for an individual cabinet, e.g. power until you do all the paperwork and power company reply. Then you get cases where people object to location, and it has to be moved, or fingers crossed this is caught in planning stage when its just a day or so of paperwork wasted.


The cab supply fitting and manpower is 33K I can tell you that. Because BT have told me outright as I have highlighted elsewhere before.
Standard User LA7
(newbie) Mon 02-Sep-13 22:33:40
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Still no upgrades via the superfast cymru scheme in cwmbran yet has any one seen any work going on in cwmbran I was told 6 months ago by some one senior in the superfast cymru scheme that my area Llanyravon and all the other areas of cwmbran that have not been upgraded via bt's commercial roll out would be upgraded and we would have the option of both fttc and ftth in around 12 months time max so that is only 6 months to go,


In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Cabinets enabled under the BDUK projects (and some of the new cabinets in Wales may still be part of the commercial roll-out remember) are done on a gap funding basis and the budgets are fixed, so it makes sense for the roll-out to be doing the ones which are closer to being economically viable.

With the clawback mechanism if these early cabinets reach commercial take-up levels, BT may have to give some money back. Which could then be recycled to do those harder to reach cabinets that they thought were not viable originally.

it is a very moveable feast, in part because you don't know all the costs for an individual cabinet, e.g. power until you do all the paperwork and power company reply. Then you get cases where people object to location, and it has to be moved, or fingers crossed this is caught in planning stage when its just a day or so of paperwork wasted.


The cab supply fitting and manpower is 33K I can tell you that. Because BT have told me outright as I have highlighted elsewhere before.

Edited by LA7 (Mon 02-Sep-13 22:34:46)

Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Mon 02-Sep-13 23:11:37
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There are 271 propertys connected and activated on the cab and a NGA is 288 - but BT don't think it's viable. I guess financially It's probably :/


There are 96, 128 and 256 line varieties too, not just 288.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Mon 02-Sep-13 23:23:45
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The cab supply fitting and manpower is 33K I can tell you that. Because BT have told me outright as I have highlighted elsewhere before.


Is this the everything all in costs or just the cost of standing the cabinet?

I ask as given there are 4 different types of cabinets of varying sizes and costs, and a pretty much limitless number of permutations as far as the costs of standing them and connecting them to power, fibre and copper go I struggle to see a single figure being given.

I've had contacts with about as high as you can go in Openreach and BT and no-one has given me a specific per-cabinet cost only a gap funding figure. Such specific numbers haven't been provided to local councillors or council, MP, or even BDUK and DCMS. I'm not sure why Openreach would give this information to your good self given they don't give it to the government.

There's no single cost due to variance between individual cabinets but average costs across both the commercial rollout and gap funded intervention rollouts don't point to 33k being correct.

Edited by Ignitionnet (Mon 02-Sep-13 23:26:31)

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