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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 10-Dec-10 22:00:14
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Re: World's largest single EU funded municipal project


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Yeah unfortunately though..

Ask24 only seems to provide to multi tenanted units like student accommodation or flats etc.
Lyndos seems to specialise in high end business services.
Ripwire, doesn't seem to want to respond to enquiry e-mails and NoD32 goes ape on certain parts of their website.
DCB are the only provider that had any information that has posted anything remotely like package information.

Digital Region's own website seems stagnant again... all looks kinda doomed to me!
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sat 11-Dec-10 19:36:07
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[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
the "Open Access" model fails again.

Phil

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Standard User RandomJointer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 29-Dec-10 18:10:56
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[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
Interesting article in the Yorkshire Post.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/BT-chief-denies-...

Edited by RandomJointer (Wed 29-Dec-10 18:14:15)


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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 29-Dec-10 18:47:16
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LOL. " it has so far failed to attract any major internet firms on board to sell the 25-40Mbs-speed packages ". The 25 minimum may be an unnecessary constraint, BT just went the other way from 15 to 5.

another failure of the Open Access model. Open Access = Zero Retail Access.

Phil

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Standard User RandomJointer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 29-Dec-10 18:56:32
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[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
More from 'The Post'


"Accounts published this week revealed a "material uncertainty" over the scheme's viability and highlighted issues between project managers and Thales, the private contractor carrying out much of the physical work."

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/100m-fast-intern...

Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 29-Dec-10 19:42:52
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"Digital Region Ltd has appointed an experienced team, led by Thales UK and including Alcatel-Lucent and KCOM, to build, manage and operate the state-of-the-art fibre-optic cable infrastructure on behalf of Digital Region. Collectively these companies have extensive experience delivering large-scale networks and communications projects."

interesting Telco choice !

Phil

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Standard User RandomJointer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 29-Dec-10 22:34:26
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When firms start accusing BT of sabotage it's a sure sign of problems.

Being a Telco is not as easy as it sounds. A RDA quango and various councils playing at being a telco sounds like a recipe for interesting times.

Now that Yorkshire Forward has been scrapped by the government, I reckon things could get messy here as the drains start coming up.

Edited by RandomJointer (Wed 29-Dec-10 22:40:56)

Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 02-Jan-11 04:21:27
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[re: RandomJointer] [link to this post]
 
It's hardly surprising that there's been little public take up.... the basic fact remains that even in South Yorkshire next to NOBODY has heard of this network. There has been effectivley zero marketing, and the website has been an out-of-date non-functioning mess.. I see it's just had another update however, but it's still basically useless!

Even for those who are somewhat savvy it's a nightmare trying to get and maintain a dialogue with any of the so-called ISP's.. there's basically NO information about consumer broadband on any of their sites, sending e-mails often gets no reply.. phone calls unanswered etc, and I'm a potential customer trying to find out what I need to know...

I entered into discussion with one ISP, I've even got a MAC from BT (it will expire in about a week or so)... but I seem to have lost contact with the ISP concerned, ok I know it's been the festive season.. but this doesn't really bode well for any kind of half functioning support either, should I eventually manage to get signed up.

Unfortunately Mr Average J. Bloggs, even if he did have some knowledge of the network is very unlikely to jump through the hoops I have done so far, and still be in the situation of being really no closer to provision. I'm half inclined to accept the BT retentions sweetener. Damned shame to be honest!
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(fountain of knowledge) Sun 02-Jan-11 10:25:07
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[re: RandomJointer] [link to this post]
 
Just because you are paranoid, it does not mean that no one is out to get you!

Being anti-competitive is in BT's DNA as they have had decades of practice at it. They are so good at it now, I doubt they even realise they are doing it!

Having said that (and especially with KCOM on board as a partnet) then that BT chap is right that there should have been no surprises - their price list is after all public data and it should have been expected that BT Infinity would move in.

Trying to start up an "open access" network when they have no (local) experience of being an ISP, and presumably no retail offering themselves, will not be easy in the best of times. I suspect that unless they can offer something fundamentally different, that cannot be replicated over BT's network (which I guess is not possible since I seem to remember that this is basically FTTC) then they will have major problems interesting other ISPs to use their network.

My best suggestion for them would be to try and interest smaller (more niche) and ideally more local ISPs to support the project. Mind you, whether the cost structure would allow sufficient margin for such ISPs is another matter.

Peter

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 04-Jan-11 17:51:43
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I just got some information back from Digital Region Ltd, after filling in a form on their new website... This is what they say..

Thank you for your email and interest in Digital Region. I have checked our build schedule and your postcode should by the end of March. To connect you will have do so through one of our ISPís.

We have four ISP's signed up at the moment, with more in the pipeline, including a well known national ISP.


Which is interesting as Ripwire's sign-up process indicates I can get service now!.
Will be interested to hear who this national ISP is however...
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