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Standard User cuthbei
(regular) Tue 17-May-11 18:21:12
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BT LES Circuit costs


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Hi,

The local council are shutting our village library and we are planning on opening a community library in the same building. We can get funding to do this if we can show a good business model. I am costing up how much we will need to spend on PCs and Internet access, but noticed the current Internet conneection is a 10Mbps LES circuit to the local primary school (800m via the BT exchange). The council are not proposing disconnecting this circuit. I would like to propose they do disconnect it and show how much they will save by doing so, allowing me to justify more funds (offset). Does anyone have a clue how much monthly rental a LES circuit like this might cost to a large customer like the council?

Thanks, Cuthbei
Standard User GMAN98
(committed) Tue 17-May-11 18:28:16
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Unless you can ask the person who pays the bill I don't think you can get the exact cost as I don't believe you can buy LES circuits anymore so you can't look it up.

I remember a few years back you could upgrade your LES to a new circuit (which was merely a change in billing and name I think, nothing physical) and there was a massive cost difference.

Anyway... it will be a lot smile
Standard User Ribble
(regular) Tue 17-May-11 18:38:25
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http://www.bt.com/pricing/history/31-03-2010/Private...
LES2 is the most widely used for schools, libraries, etc


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Standard User cuthbei
(regular) Tue 17-May-11 19:26:00
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Great, thanks. Looks like a lot of £££s
Standard User cuthbei
(regular) Tue 17-May-11 19:27:32
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Thanks. What would you buy if it wasn't a LES circuit? Fibre between building via exchange was always called LES when I used to cost this stuff (many many years ago).
Standard User huwwatkins
(regular) Tue 17-May-11 19:29:32
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We use these where I work - your looking at a few thousand a month I think.
Standard User GMAN98
(committed) Tue 17-May-11 19:44:43
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Yeah.. they renamed to EES - Ethernet extension service

This should give you an idea of the LES cost:-

http://www.bt.com/pricing/history/31-03-2010/Private...
Standard User cuthbei
(regular) Tue 17-May-11 19:47:08
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Thanks. Shows how long ago it was I ordered one, it was a Token Ring Extension I purchased! or was it ATM LAN Emulation.. anyway, it was a long time ago.
Standard User huwwatkins
(regular) Tue 17-May-11 19:47:38
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EES - thats the one. I was looking at it the other day and wondered why they bothered changing the name - its the same product.

We have 6 LES/EES 100's where I work.

If its only used for internet access then depending on your location normal adsl/adsl2+ would be suffice.
Standard User Ribble
(regular) Tue 17-May-11 19:55:21
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LES was mostly superseded by Wholesale Extension service (WES) and Backhaul Extension Service (BES), now superseded by Ethernet Access Direct (EAD)
http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/ethern...
Standard User GMAN98
(committed) Tue 17-May-11 19:59:39
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Yep just a rebrand its physically the same smile
Standard User RutlandTelecom
(learned) Mon 13-Jun-11 22:00:27
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You can get a 1Gbps EAD for £3500/year if in the same exchange area

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Standard User wirelesspacman
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 14-Jun-11 08:27:25
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£6,300 actually and that is on a 5 year contract. The one year contract is £9,500.

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Standard User RutlandTelecom
(learned) Tue 14-Jun-11 08:39:13
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£3600 for a 5 year contract for an EAD Local Access 1000Mbps

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/pricin...

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Standard User wirelesspacman
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 14-Jun-11 16:03:04
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You said EAD not EAD Local Access! smile

The latter cannot be used to connect two premises in the same exchange area.

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Standard User 5km
(knowledge is power) Tue 14-Jun-11 20:34:28
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I'd have to question why they had a LES installed in the first place. Is normal ADSL broadband rubbish where the library is?

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Standard User Ribble
(member) Wed 22-Jun-11 17:18:33
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Probably part of a wider contract the local authourity awarded to connect schools, colleges and other educational establishments over a private wide area network
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(Unregistered)Fri 22-Jul-11 22:45:56
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Thats wholesale pricing for other Telco Providers, end customers will pay much more. Check www.exponential-e.com
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