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Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Mon 21-Mar-11 17:43:34
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o-bit LLU


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Hi, does any one know if Obit do LLU connections?
Recently we've had both cpw & sky unbundle our exchange ( which was a shock as were a small village) so after checking vivaciti checker to see if i can move over to there LLU product I came up showing a LLU line blush

After checking my router im connected using adsl2+ @ 13993 kbps down but a speed test shows 5mb throughput frown


Cheers
Dan
p.s yes I have raised a ticket.
Standard User andyboygsi
(member) Mon 21-Mar-11 18:00:11
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Re: o-bit LLU


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need to post your full router stats before we proceed, and also full results of a bt speedtester test

these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.

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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Mon 21-Mar-11 18:48:12
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Re: o-bit LLU


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In reply to a post by dreaddan:
Hi, does any one know if Obit do LLU connections?
Yes, O-Bit, Murphx, Daisy are all the same company.



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Standard User rarrar
(member) Mon 21-Mar-11 18:58:32
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Re: o-bit LLU


[re: dreaddan] [link to this post]
 
Just moved to partial LLU with Vivaciti ( Opal/TT LLU) , had been given estimate of 13 Mbps ( by Xilo for same connection) but actually get 19Mbps connection with 16.5 Mbps download all the time which was in line with the ADSL2+ estimators based on attenuation and Noise figures.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 21-Mar-11 19:17:07
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Re: o-bit LLU


[re: dreaddan] [link to this post]
 
Do you mean your current connection shows as LLU?

Who are you with and what package?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.
Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Mon 21-Mar-11 22:09:15
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Re: o-bit LLU


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Bt speed tester says:
Test Error
Performance Tester is unable to run the speed test for your telephone number:xxxx. Please check that it is the correct telephone number for your service.

And my router stats

adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: ShowtimeRetrain Reason: 8000
Channel: FAST, Upstream rate = 1021 Kbps, Downstream rate = 13993 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: ADSL2+
Channel: Fast
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 5.5 7.6
Attn(dB): 31.5 16.6
Pwr(dBm): 19.3 12.1
Max(Kbps): 16068 1204
Rate (Kbps): 13993 1021
Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Mon 21-Mar-11 22:11:14
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Re: o-bit LLU


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Hmm looks like ive been moved without being told
Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Mon 21-Mar-11 22:11:53
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That might be what they've done with me but left the cap in place...
Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Mon 21-Mar-11 22:14:25
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Im with vivaciti on there surfwise adsl max product
What I mean shows as a LLU connection is when I go to a isp and check what services I can get via them they say the line has a LLU service.

Dan

Edited by dreaddan (Mon 21-Mar-11 22:20:25)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 21-Mar-11 22:25:42
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Re: o-bit LLU


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In reply to a post by dreaddan:
Im with vivaciti on there surfwise adsl max product
What I mean shows as a LLU connection is when I go to a isp and check what services I can get via them they say the line has a LLU service.
They don't have such a package as Surfwise ADSL Max. Their nearest is Surfwise Home 100. All other Surfwise ones are LLU of one kind or another. How much per month, that might tell us? And which exchange?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.
Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Tue 22-Mar-11 07:19:07
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Names change...
What I get billed for is "O-bit Surfwise - ADSL MAX (100GB FUP) Migration " which is £21.6 and on the Audley(WMADY) exchange.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 22-Mar-11 13:34:43
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Really wierd.

Do you pay the line rental to vivaciti as well then?

Have you asked them what is going on? You could be on Easynet I suppose. Highly unlikely to be CPW at that price.

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Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Tue 22-Mar-11 14:00:35
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Yes I've raised a ticket with there support but no answer as of yet.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 22-Mar-11 16:03:03
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Just re-read the opening post where you say you've raised a ticket. Sorry:). Previous day is a long time ago in my memory tongue.

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Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Tue 22-Mar-11 16:05:28
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np, i should have said in the main body+ you have replyed quicker than v have anyways
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 22-Mar-11 16:36:32
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They are probably trying to find out what is going on as well! tongue

You didn't say who you pay phone line rental to?

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Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Tue 22-Mar-11 16:39:50
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Yep, hence why i havnt called them.
We pay BT for our line rental and are on contract (afaik) till the end of the year - its in the wifes name and hasnt cancelled the rolling contract for the last few years !
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 22-Mar-11 16:48:17
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Well that's good news.

That 5Mbps throughput at the start - was that wired or wireless?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.
Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Tue 22-Mar-11 16:56:03
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It was(is) wired(no firewall/av enabled), wireless is practicly the same.
Just did another test - though aparently surfwise do now throttle between 9a-7.30p
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1214941917.png

Edited by dreaddan (Tue 22-Mar-11 16:56:39)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 22-Mar-11 17:13:44
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Not good.

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Standard User rarrar
(member) Tue 22-Mar-11 19:14:40
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Have vivaciti confirmed that they throttle non-p2p traffic ?

I dont see any change with my download speeds during the day and evening and am on the same package ( I think).

http://speedtest.net/result/1211373069.png

Sync is 21940 kbps
Standard User philippercival
(member) Tue 22-Mar-11 20:40:01
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I am with Vivacity/Surfwise which I think is O-bit, on LLU 16.50 per month. Phone still with Bt. One month contract and I am delighted.

See here for more.
Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Tue 22-Mar-11 21:23:44
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There was a post that I read that said it looked like they did.
But you cant trust everything you read wink
Standard User gmoorc
(member) Tue 22-Mar-11 22:08:09
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I had a reply in a ticket recently that confirmed that P2P and newsgroups have a "lower traffic priority" between 8am and 7.30pm weekdays.
Nothing else was mentioned.
Standard User rarrar
(member) Wed 23-Mar-11 08:01:12
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Although very happy with what I get from Vivaciti including their support , I do feel their website could do with much more detailed info on the various packages on offer including details on throttling (if any) .
I dont find it satisfactory to have to trawl through the forums to find out info which might be out of date.
Lack of info did put me off migrating for quite a while.

Not saying that Vivaciti are alone in thsi respect
Standard User vivaciti
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 23-Mar-11 09:36:00
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With ref to the web site, I think you are being far too polite about our current website, it's a complete mess at the moment.
I was given a quick look at the beta release of the new site and it's a lot more easy to follow and find information about the different packages already and they are still working on it.

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Standard User vivaciti
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 23-Mar-11 09:39:38
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No not quite right, Murphx are no more, they are mow Daisy Wholesale and O-Bit are now owned by Daisy Group plc but are still a separate operating company.

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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Wed 23-Mar-11 09:41:20
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Thanks for that



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Standard User vivaciti
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 23-Mar-11 10:03:32
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Your welcome

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Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Wed 23-Mar-11 11:27:47
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which is fine but speed tests tend to tail off which seems like there beeing throtteled as well.
Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Wed 23-Mar-11 11:31:24
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They've now replyed saying there trying to find out what is going on as I should be on IPStream.
So I guess we'll see what comes out of it.
If the LLU offering is the same as he bt one id hope its cheaper!
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 23-Mar-11 13:55:42
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In reply to a post by vivaciti:
Murphx are no more, they are mow Daisy Wholesale ....
Is that fair to daisies?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.
Standard User dreaddan
(committed) Wed 30-Mar-11 11:11:58
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Well I've been moved to LLU and they have no idea as to why!
Not entirly happy as thoughput is the same as it was before! and now face migration charges when moving.
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