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Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 15-Oct-15 10:15:57
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directsavetelecom


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Any info on directsavetelecom please?

They appear to offer an unlimited BB but with a 24 month contract. Is that how providers are making their money nowdays? Sign you up for a cheap 12 months then clobber you for the remaining 6 or 12 months of the contract?

It gets a bit confusing trying to add up the costs and work out the real monthly spend over a contract's life, but that really is what you have to do.

They offer line rental saver, but I assume that can only be paid for in 12 month blocks? Could you buy two blocks at once?

Surprised there appears to be nothing on this provider here, but maybe it's too new or small?


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - EE via Technicolor TG582N

Previously - New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Plusnet, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet,
X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 15-Oct-15 10:18:20
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Re: directsavetelecom


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Brief mention here - http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/otherisp/t/4428252-...


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - EE via Technicolor TG582N

Previously - New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Plusnet, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet,
X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 15-Oct-15 10:29:49
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Re: directsavetelecom


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How long is your barge pole?

This and a few other reviews on Google were enough information for me ....

https://www.cable.co.uk/guides/is-direct-save-teleco...


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Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 15-Oct-15 10:45:34
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Re: directsavetelecom


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Thanks for that: very useful.


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - EE via Technicolor TG582N

Previously - New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Plusnet, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet,
X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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Standard User bobble_bob
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 15-Oct-15 16:50:01
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Re: directsavetelecom


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I would never sign a 24 month contract with any ISP, no matter if they were amazing. Too much can change in 2 years, and especially when so many ISPs offer 1 month contracts these days
Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 15-Oct-15 22:56:36
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Re: directsavetelecom


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There seems to be a (hidden) setup fee of £24.95 - http://www.directsavetelecom.co.uk/broadband-deal.php , so the actual monthly cost is another £1 odd to that advertised as well.

https://www.cable.co.uk/compare/direct-save-telecom/ says this is £33.90 ???

Looks like this is due to £8.95 P&p on router plus insurance!


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - EE via Technicolor TG582N

Previously - New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Plusnet, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet,
X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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Edited by hk11 (Thu 15-Oct-15 23:03:40)

Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 15-Oct-15 23:01:52
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Re: directsavetelecom


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I'd steer clear of them, I've seen a few to many horror stories!
Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 15-Oct-15 23:18:16
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I think you are right.

When you factor in the upfront costs and the 24 month contract someone like the post office seems a better deal anyway.


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Previously - New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Plusnet, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet,
X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 15-Oct-15 23:27:46
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or TalkTallk

They have an attractive offer if your after landline calls..

Unlimited Calls Anytime to UK Landlines & Mobiles for £3.75 a month for 18 months! + Free BB for 12 months!

Plus they offer a decent range of free calls features including Withheld caller reject and Last Caller Barring free!
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 15-Oct-15 23:28:01
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Post Office is TalkTalk Business and especially off-net quite congested.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59999/14372kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User richi
(learned) Fri 16-Oct-15 09:20:44
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From what I understand from other TalkTalk Business resellers, the traffic is prioritised over the regular TT traffic. There are at least three levels of priority over the domestic service class.

TT congestion doesn't happen in every area, but Andrew's latest speedtest data shows some significant peak-time TT congestion on average, so it must be pretty bad in some places. However, it shouldn't be an issue if your traffic is prioritised.

I don't know about what the Post Office offers, but a TTB reseller such as Pulse8 will allow you to select any of those three priority levels. And you can have a month-to-month contract, so if it doesn't work out, you can go elsewhere.

(I've no axe to grind, I'm just a happy customer -- I've found Pulse8 to be extremely helpful with line faults and regrades. They're also one of the few ISPs that still offer the ADSL 2+ "Annex-M" 2 Mbps upload option.)

Edited by richi (Fri 16-Oct-15 09:27:42)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 16-Oct-15 11:35:08
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I agree with all you say, but you miss one point. The Post Office will be paying for a certain maximum throughput capacity, and if that isn't adequate there will be congestion, whatever it's priority either side of the pinch-point.

Plus, that only applies on TT's LLU network. Their BTW capacity is woeful.

(I bet you picked up on Pulse8 due to the posts by prof and myself, which led adslmax into thinking about them. I decided against at the time, but haven't ruled them out long-term. My landline is with them).

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59999/14372kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User richi
(learned) Fri 16-Oct-15 12:09:15
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Interesting -- is that really how the pure reseller contracts work? Or is that only if the ISP has its own backhaul?

I started on this journey at posts about Uno, but got frustrated by various niggles. I then went to find all the other TTB resellers and narrowed it down to Pulse8, based on the service they provided, the responsiveness, and the no-contract element. I'm sure your experience was helpful, thanks.

3 km line on THTG: 13.5/1 Mb/s with Pulse8
Standard User bobble_bob
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 16-Oct-15 12:25:57
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Have to remember aswell their are ISP's on TTB LLU and ISP's that use the TTB network. Uno for example use the TT LLU exchange equitment but have their own backhaul with Daisy i believe.

Pulse8 use Talk Talk for everything.
Standard User richi
(learned) Fri 16-Oct-15 12:30:30
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Interesting; thanks. What does the Post Office do?

3 km line on THTG: 13.5/1 Mb/s with Pulse8
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 16-Oct-15 13:52:18
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Post Office is solid TTB, as is Pulse8. Pulse8 gives you a TalkTalk IP address, as apparently you need over 20,000 customers for them to let you have your own. (How true that is I don't know, but is what I've been told).

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59999/14372kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 16-Oct-15 15:08:45
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Re: directsavetelecom


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Given the ADSL only capping PostOffice (particularly upload speeds) use I'd exclude them from any comparisons from the beginning

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 17-Oct-15 19:06:25
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
(I bet you picked up on Pulse8 due to the posts by prof and myself, which led adslmax into thinking about them. I decided against at the time, but haven't ruled them out long-term. My landline is with them).


Hello Bob - I am still playing around with the idea of going to P8.

Was the reason for dropping P8 the TT ip address. I haven't yet worked out the disadvantages of this. Is that you are lumped on the general TT backhaul and do not have any real control over it?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 17-Oct-15 19:42:40
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No, it was very much a toss-up between them and AAISP.

In the end it came down to two main things. One, there was uncertainty as to whether or not they could migrate FTTC >> FTTC, instead of FTTC >> ADSL2+ then upgrade a week or two later. I think this may still be a problem.

Second, I simply felt like seeing if AAISP was as super-duper-the-most-wonderful-ISP-in-the-country as we are led to believe.

The cost difference between the two is about £5-£6pm, though the Pulse8 is unlimited and the AAISP at that price is 100GB.

Of course, the main test is what happens if you have a fault. I hope never to find out! I know a week and a half ago I went away for a week, turning off my router but leaving the OR modem running. Just before I actually went out of the door I got a text from them telling me the connection was down! Another one sent within minutes of me turning it back on when I got home, saying it was now online.

They don't seem able to organise my morning cup of tea in bed frown.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59999/14372kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 17-Oct-15 20:07:42
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Thanks - hope they work out ok for you. I will keep P8 on the list for now. Keep hoping something else will come up but on the back burner for now as I have a big Vet's bill to cope with.
Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 18-Oct-15 00:59:44
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Given the ADSL only capping PostOffice (particularly upload speeds) use I'd exclude them from any comparisons from the beginning


I agree, I certainly have been doing that!
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