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Pulse8 dont have control over the network. Its Talk Talk if anyone who would be doing it
Speedtest.net not reliable anyway. Need a single thread speedtest for accurate results
Edited by bobble_bob (Wed 27-Jan-16 13:46:38)
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If I use their speedtest its always slower then using the one on TBB.
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Article doesnt really show much. Even they admit its not been tested with multiple users on multiple connections.
Unless more testing shows this happening, its abit of a non story
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Pfffffft
Mulit-threaded tests will always show a better result than single threaded. As Ookla/Pulse8 use multi-threaded on their speedtest it is comparing apples to oranges...
Even my SamKnows box performs multi-threaded (they should consider single threaded as well) and it has been rock solid at 63Mbs for over a month (give or take a bit) which doesn't tell me much anyway.
All the article does is hurt Pulse8's hard earned reputation. My old Sky connection was no different to the article.
Use speedtest.net connection looked fantastic, use TBB it was absolutely awful. Based on TBB, TestMy and SamKnows reports I switched to Pulse8 haven't been happier, rock solid!
plusnet Fibre > Sky Fibre Pro > Pulse8 Fibre XL - 14ms Ping, Sync ~ 65.78/18.73Mbps - BQM
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Im surprised how many people rely on speedtest.net and other multithread speedtests when they dont reflect a real world connection. All they so is saturate a commection and throw as much data down it to get a fast speed.
Fair enough not everyone is tech savy to know the difference but our own IT department wanted people to use speedtest.net to see if their connection was suitable for home working
And i think the article is unfair on Pulse8 when its ultimately TTB that control it
Edited by bobble_bob (Wed 27-Jan-16 15:12:44)
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Inaccurate "articles" like this one really do my head in. Especially when I have had 20 hours sleep in the last 5 days! 
plusnet Fibre > Sky Fibre Pro > Pulse8 Fibre XL - 14ms Ping, Sync ~ 65.78/18.73Mbps - BQM
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An ISP with no control whatsoever over the network its subscribers use manipulating speed tests. That's one hell of a trick.
As far as accuracy being paramount to Ookla, hmm. A lot of people like Ookla tests as they give higher results than, say, ThinkBroadband. I prefer accurate over high for epenis enlargement.
Is it really that much of a shock if a speed tester hosted by the ISP and load balanced with local caches produces higher results than ones that are offnet?
PING www.supportal-test.co.uk (78.144.7.18) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from host-78-144-7-18.as13285.net (78.144.7.18): icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=6.48 ms
64 bytes from host-78-144-7-18.as13285.net (78.144.7.18): icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=6.58 ms
64 bytes from host-78-144-7-18.as13285.net (78.144.7.18): icmp_seq=3 ttl=60 time=6.62 ms
64 bytes from host-78-144-7-18.as13285.net (78.144.7.18): icmp_seq=4 ttl=60 time=6.70 ms
64 bytes from host-78-144-7-18.as13285.net (78.144.7.18): icmp_seq=5 ttl=60 time=6.49 ms
PING cs62.adn.xicdn.net (93.184.219.82) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 93.184.219.82: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=12.2 ms
64 bytes from 93.184.219.82: icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=12.0 ms
64 bytes from 93.184.219.82: icmp_seq=3 ttl=58 time=12.1 ms
64 bytes from 93.184.219.82: icmp_seq=4 ttl=58 time=11.8 ms
64 bytes from 93.184.219.82: icmp_seq=5 ttl=58 time=12.0 ms
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Just for arguments sake I did. Single threaded over ports 80 and 8080 came out at ~60mbps.
Ran the multi-threaded test over both ports 80 and 8080, again 60Mbps.
plusnet Fibre > Sky Fibre Pro > Pulse8 Fibre XL - 14ms Ping, Sync ~ 65.78/18.73Mbps - BQM
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Just for arguments sake I did. Single threaded over ports 80 and 8080 came out at ~60mbps.
Ran the multi-threaded test over both ports 80 and 8080, again 60Mbps.
Same here. No difference between ports or threads.
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Just to put the cat among the pigeons, Speedtest.net (Ookla), Pulsate or the beloved TBB speedtest all show the same speeds on my line. Why pick on Pulse8 when it is resold Talktalk.
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Yes, a bit of a non story, though boosted by this site recycling it. Nice to see folks standing by Pulse8 - Quite a turnaround from the slagging off they and I took when I first switched to them.
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Even if this was happening (not looked into it with detail as not fussed tbh) its nothing to do with Pulse8 as you and me know they have no control over the network.
Im not sure what an ISP would gain by doing this anyway? Its not like the BT checker that gives a rough speed estimate. A speestest can only be completed once you have switched so what incentive would any ISP have to exaggerated speeds?
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No control over the network they supply is the sort of rubbish I often expect to find here. They have full control of profiles and everything TT themselves have.
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They can control your line such as target noise margin and interleaving but i highly doubt they have control over which ports are or arent prioritised or throttled
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They can control your line such as target noise margin and interleaving but i highly doubt they have control over which ports are or arent prioritised or throttled
Either way, a long way off no control whatsoever.
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Having control over your line isnt the same as tge network. I think i describe them as having no control and the way i meant it was no control over the network (so ports, throttling, blocking of p2p etc). Line control yes they do have control but that is different
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Care to explain 'this site recycling it' - since we have not posted it to our news which is what I would presume you mean by recycling it
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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Don't think I need to explain anything and stand by what I said. The fact that silly claim is recycled here does more harm than good - Don't remember stating you posted it as a news item, but if my memory is that bad you can always ban me again.
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I think he means that google will be picking up the Subject of this thread, which unfortunately names Pulse8, plus each individual post is picked up as you know.
On the other hand if anyone does find this thread, as long as they read it they will come to the same conclusion - the ISPreview article is (at heart) bunkum.
In a very wishy-washy sort of way they say so themselves after throwing the mushroom compost at the fan. This thread pretty well proves the point.
The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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Exactly Bob. Everything posted on the web might as well be carved in stone. As you say, OK if everybody that drops by reads the whole thread, but many will not. As those that throw accusations in all walks of life, they know some of the mud sticks. I really cannot work out the reason for the post, other than to spite a provider that is gaining customers at the expense of those that lock folks into a contract.
Edited by professor973 (Thu 28-Jan-16 00:10:20)
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Whether or not tt are fiddling with traffic they wrote an article based on a single sample source, seems jumping the gun a bit.
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Thank you for the clarification it is nice when things are nice and clear cut.
The original poster made no claims about accuracy and part of the public Internet is to allow discussion. Its original purpose was the sharing of scientific work and while not scientific levels of investigation are going on in this thread, people are free to debate and arrive at a variety of conclusions.
If anyone mentioned in the original post feels aggrieved and the post violates any site rules they are free to report it.
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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I posted this link for discussion purposes only as I also did not believe what ispreview have said in their 'review' as for me pulse8 have been exemplary in their support and the speeds are the same 24/7 no matter if it's single or multi-threaded.
I do hope that anyone who stumbles across this thread takes the time to read through the posts and also to read the comments made by skilty and others on ispreview and will make a decision based on that to not always believe what is written on the internet.
My purpose was never to rubbish the reputation of pulse8 before anyone thinks that.
Edited by deleted (Thu 28-Jan-16 19:53:37)
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