In reply to a post by richi:

In reply to a post by epyon:

As my service with TTB tails has no filter.

Wait, are you saying TalkTalk Business bought direct isn't filtered? Supposedly, Pulse8, Uno, etc. are resold TTB, so that surprises me.

TTB bought direct is filtered, as is anything that's using TT IP addressing.

TTB is the ISP, albeit resold to Pulse8.

Pulse8 (and I believe Uno) are reselling the Internet service, not providing their own. First hop is a TT AS. So backhaul is irrelevant.

Edited by richi (Fri 14-Oct-16 09:47:21)

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

TTB bought direct is filtered

Thanks for the helpful clarification!

BatBoy is I think talking about the same point as I was in my post about IP blocks.

Xilo/uno are using TTB tails, with their own RIPE-allocated IP addresses. Pulse8 are reselling native TTB with TTB RIPE-allocated IP addresses and presumably TTB DNS servers. Those will be vetted.

Can I take it from the recommendation and discussion above that AAISP don't block anything even though they also use talk talk business for their backhaul?

So they say. The highlighted box is clear. However the final paragraph is a convoluted mess.

There are or were other statements about it but I'm using an iPad and searching around is tedious.

As far as I kno w there are no relevant Court Orders against them to compel blocking. Only they can give you assurance. Or not! No forum poster can.

In reply to a post by richi:

In reply to a post by epyon:

As my service with TTB tails has no filter.

Wait, are you saying TalkTalk Business bought direct isn't filtered? Supposedly, Pulse8, Uno, etc. are resold TTB, so that surprises me.

I am on Talk Talk Business, I can access all of those sites.

In reply to a post by 23Prince:

In reply to a post by richi:

In reply to a post by epyon:

As my service with TTB tails has no filter.

Wait, are you saying TalkTalk Business bought direct isn't filtered? Supposedly, Pulse8, Uno, etc. are resold TTB, so that surprises me.

I am on Talk Talk Business, I can access all of those sites.

I'm a bit confused about why Pulse8 would appear to filter, but TTB don't. As other people have observed, Pulse8 is just a resold TTB connection as far as we know.

Maybe it's a business thing? I really don't know

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

the final paragraph is a convoluted mess

That's Adrian's "canary" graf. It's legalistic for a good reason: anticipating a gag clause should A&A ever be legally forced to filter or monitor. In other words, Adrian believes A&A will be instructed he cannot tell people that this has happened, but it'll be defencible to remove the Canary graf and/or to be evasive when directly asked.