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Standard User Spudgun
(regular) Thu 13-Oct-16 15:02:50
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Do Pulse8 block any websites?


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I'm thinking of moving to a TTB LLU FTTC based product from Pulse 8, however, before I jump ship, does anyone know if they block access to any websites such as the ones shown on this list - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_block...
Standard User epyon
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 13-Oct-16 18:17:43
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Re: Do Pulse8 block any websites?


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I'm pretty sure they don't block anything

its usually the big 2 or 3 isps that block.

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Standard User mss911
(newbie) Thu 13-Oct-16 19:18:21
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They do.

redirects to http://www.siteblocked.org/

Standard TalkTalk message. The domain is theres. Not all independents are equal.

Edited by mss911 (Thu 13-Oct-16 19:23:50)


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Standard User epyon
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 13-Oct-16 19:54:36
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Hmmm then that is because pulse8 don't manage their own filter i guess with just a direct copy and paste service via talktalk wholesale

As my service with TTB tails has no filter.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 13-Oct-16 20:24:23
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Probably IP blocks. P8 don't have their own. We can see that from their speed tests.

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Standard User Spudgun
(regular) Thu 13-Oct-16 20:29:44
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Thanks to everyone who replied, I guess that I will cross them off my shortlist of potential providers!
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 13-Oct-16 20:32:33
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Try AAISP. Perhaps their 1GB service.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57825/13835kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User Spudgun
(regular) Thu 13-Oct-16 20:43:05
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Thank you, I will investigate them next
Standard User richi
(regular) Fri 14-Oct-16 09:17:51
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Re: Do Pulse8 block any websites?


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In reply to a post by epyon:
As my service with TTB tails has no filter.
Wait, are you saying TalkTalk Business bought direct isn't filtered? Supposedly, Pulse8, Uno, etc. are resold TTB, so that surprises me.

3 km line on THTG: 16/1 Mb/s with Pulse8
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 14-Oct-16 09:30:09
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I think the filtering is done by the ISP rather than the backhaul
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 14-Oct-16 09:41:25
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In reply to a post by richi:
In reply to a post by epyon:
As my service with TTB tails has no filter.
Wait, are you saying TalkTalk Business bought direct isn't filtered? Supposedly, Pulse8, Uno, etc. are resold TTB, so that surprises me.


TTB bought direct is filtered, as is anything that's using TT IP addressing.
Standard User richi
(regular) Fri 14-Oct-16 09:45:36
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TTB is the ISP, albeit resold to Pulse8.

Pulse8 (and I believe Uno) are reselling the Internet service, not providing their own. First hop is a TT AS. So backhaul is irrelevant.

3 km line on THTG: 16/1 Mb/s with Pulse8

Edited by richi (Fri 14-Oct-16 09:47:21)

Standard User richi
(regular) Fri 14-Oct-16 09:57:56
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In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:
TTB bought direct is filtered
Thanks for the helpful clarification!

3 km line on THTG: 16/1 Mb/s with Pulse8
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 14-Oct-16 10:16:57
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BatBoy is I think talking about the same point as I was in my post about IP blocks.

Xilo/uno are using TTB tails, with their own RIPE-allocated IP addresses. Pulse8 are reselling native TTB with TTB RIPE-allocated IP addresses and presumably TTB DNS servers. Those will be vetted.

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Standard User Spudgun
(regular) Fri 14-Oct-16 19:09:35
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Can I take it from the recommendation and discussion above that AAISP don't block anything even though they also use talk talk business for their backhaul?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 15-Oct-16 09:40:33
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So they say. The highlighted box is clear. However the final paragraph is a convoluted mess.

There are or were other statements about it but I'm using an iPad and searching around is tedious.

As far as I kno w there are no relevant Court Orders against them to compel blocking. Only they can give you assurance. Or not! No forum poster can.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57825/13835kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 15-Oct-16 10:13:33
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In reply to a post by richi:
In reply to a post by epyon:
As my service with TTB tails has no filter.
Wait, are you saying TalkTalk Business bought direct isn't filtered? Supposedly, Pulse8, Uno, etc. are resold TTB, so that surprises me.


I am on Talk Talk Business, I can access all of those sites.
Standard User jaydub
(experienced) Sat 15-Oct-16 12:53:58
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In reply to a post by 23Prince:
In reply to a post by richi:
In reply to a post by epyon:
As my service with TTB tails has no filter.
Wait, are you saying TalkTalk Business bought direct isn't filtered? Supposedly, Pulse8, Uno, etc. are resold TTB, so that surprises me.


I am on Talk Talk Business, I can access all of those sites.

I'm a bit confused about why Pulse8 would appear to filter, but TTB don't. As other people have observed, Pulse8 is just a resold TTB connection as far as we know.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 16-Oct-16 10:20:17
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Maybe it's a business thing? I really don't know
Standard User richi
(regular) Sun 16-Oct-16 13:16:42
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
the final paragraph is a convoluted mess
That's Adrian's "canary" graf. It's legalistic for a good reason: anticipating a gag clause should A&A ever be legally forced to filter or monitor. In other words, Adrian believes A&A will be instructed he cannot tell people that this has happened, but it'll be defencible to remove the Canary graf and/or to be evasive when directly asked.

3 km line on THTG: 16/1 Mb/s with Pulse8
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 19-Oct-16 08:08:47
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Maybe it's an option from TTB wholesale that resellers can use or not.
Standard User jaydub
(experienced) Sun 23-Oct-16 23:39:46
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Just in the process for signing up for P8 and spotted this in their T&Cs:

3.18 We filter sites that have made it onto the IWF blacklist http://www.iwf.org.uk/members/member-policies/url-list
and any websites that we�re required to by UK Law.

So there it is in black and white.
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