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Standard User rocketronnie75
(regular) Wed 13-Nov-24 00:32:44
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BRSK Full Fibre Broadband


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Hi,

Just signed up to BRSK Full Fibre Broadband 150mbps upload/download.

Just wondering if they would remove the BT wall socket and wiring from pole or just leave it as it is?

Thanks
Standard User pluralist
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 13-Nov-24 00:48:41
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Re: BRSK Full Fibre Broadband


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With luck I'll know at the end of this month. The estate is fully wired, awaiting the one-mile link to the trunk on the A6.

I signed up in October and rang them a couple of weeks ago to ask when go live was expected to be.and they said end of November.

I think it might be earlier, as they've dug into the pavement then filled in at three places. Each end of the route and one in the middle.

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Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 13-Nov-24 00:54:31
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Re: BRSK Full Fibre Broadband


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The BT socket and drop cable is part of the Openreach network. Tis nothing at all to do with Brsk, so they cannot morally, ethically or legally touch any of it 😅


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Standard User pluralist
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 13-Nov-24 01:23:10
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That may now depend on the specific site.
Network operator Openreach (BT) has announced that engineers working for alternative UK broadband networks (altnets) have finally gained a limited ability to replace existing copper drop wires with fibre optic lines on their telecoms poles. Previously, altnets had to wait on the incumbent’s own engineers before this work could be done.

One of the problems with poles is that they can only handle so many cables and related kit before weight becomes a problem (example), which can create a localised capacity issue that may also cause delays with connecting new customers (this can sometimes require the deployment of additional poles). One way of balancing this is by removing an old copper line as you add in a new fibre.
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ISPreview link.

It reads as if it only applies where the pole is either defective or would become over-loaded, but whether that restriction will be applied in practice is a different question. "Out of sight, out of mind"?

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Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 13-Nov-24 07:31:53
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Thanks @pluralist. That’s a very recent change, but as you say fairly limited in scope - basically in situations where the Altnet can’t otherwise install their drop in a fully loaded / defective pole situation, Openreach have allowed them to replace 1 for 1. That’s still very much the exception rather than the rule.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 13-Nov-24 10:22:56
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I suspect it will be widened given time. Done sensibly its a good idea but we know humans are humans and abuses will happen.
Standard User GonePostal
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 13-Nov-24 10:38:19
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In reply to a post by Taras:
I suspect it will be widened given time. Done sensibly its a good idea but we know humans are humans and abuses will happen.


https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4694421-re...
Standard User Iniltous
(member) Wed 13-Nov-24 10:40:42
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Re: BRSK Full Fibre Broadband


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Chances are when asked to provide an extra 20 or 30 minutes ( or even longer ) of work for ‘free’ , many Alt Net employees or contractors ( more so with contractors ) will decline to do work they are not getting paid to do, why would they ….so chances are a conversation along the lines of ‘ can you recover the Openreach wiring and sockets , I won’t ever use them again ‘ will be answered as ‘No , we can’t touch that ‘

Edited by Iniltous (Wed 13-Nov-24 10:41:42)

Standard User hoopla
(committed) Wed 13-Nov-24 10:54:47
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Brsk fibre broadband uses a fibre connection to a brsk fibre adapter. It doesn't go anywhere near a phone line, so there is no reason to think it would affect any existing phone installation, any more than it would affect your gas supply.

We've found Brsk to be excellent, though we did pay the extra £5 per month for a fixed, non-cgnat IP address. That's a 24 month contract at £5 pm, whereas the same thing on Voneus (at another house) is a monthly rolling contract.
Standard User hoopla
(committed) Wed 13-Nov-24 11:05:58
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In reply to a post by Iniltous:
Chances are when asked to provide an extra 20 or 30 minutes ( or even longer ) of work for ‘free’ , many Alt Net employees or contractors ( more so with contractors ) will decline to do work they are not getting paid to do, why would they ….so chances are a conversation along the lines of ‘ can you recover the Openreach wiring and sockets , I won’t ever use them again ‘ will be answered as ‘No , we can’t touch that ‘

A visiting Brsk engineer (replacing a faulty router) reckoned that our connection was iffy. Seemed fine to us - easily exceeding the 500/500 we pay for, but he said he would get another engineer out to sort it.

Twenty minutes later the new engineer arrived. He checked our end of the fibre, then went off to check up the pole.
Eventually he came back to tell us it was sorted and to collect the gizmo he'd left at our end.
He had spent at least an hour and a half sorting it out, some in a cherry picker up the pole, some presumably at the cabinet up the road.
I got the impression that there was no rush: the task was to get things right, not to finish quickly.
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