Zzoomm is now Fullfibre

I know that it happened a few months ago, but it seems now the networks are combined, I did a speed test on my phone using an app, and it said my ISP was fullfibre and if i do a what is my IP thing, it comes back with Fullfibre.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I know that it happened a few months ago, but it seems now the networks are combined

Perhaps all that has happened is the IP range ownership has been updated at RIPE.

Yep. Looks like whois details for AS number for Zzoomm were updated on 12 May to reflect Full Fibre.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Yep. Looks like whois details for AS number for Zzoomm were updated on 12 May to reflect Full Fibre.

I would call that a first step then, networks likely are still separate and will be for months, but updating ownership is easy.

Will be interesting to see if the two retail brands (Fibre Heroes, and Zzoomm) will continue as the way to get retail sales, with FullFibre for wholesale, or if other branding changes happen.

Edited by jchamier (Fri 30-May-25 15:50:55)

Merger was agreed in January and completed in March was my understanding.

Really depends on how far along the network integration they now are….perhaps there will be a press announcement at some point….or someone on the inside might give a peek…👀

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Merger was agreed in January and completed in March was my understanding.

I saw that.

Really depends on how far along the network integration they now are….perhaps there will be a press announcement at some point….or someone on the inside might give a peek…👀

If they even want to integrate, or operate as different but under one ownership.

'Merger' as in zzoomm run out of money and FullFibre ttookk them over. The latest vehicle is 'Altnet Partners' from what i can make of it.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Yep. Looks like whois details for AS number for Zzoomm were updated on 12 May to reflect Full Fibre.

Ay, that could be what it is.

In reply to a post by FibreBubble:

'Merger' as in zzoomm run out of money and FullFibre ttookk them over. The latest vehicle is 'Altnet Partners' from what i can make of it.

What do you expect with the advantage Openreach have, very difficult for any company to get a foot hold.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Yep. Looks like whois details for AS number for Zzoomm were updated on 12 May to reflect Full Fibre.

I would call that a first step then, networks likely are still separate and will be for months, but updating ownership is easy.

Will be interesting to see if the two retail brands (Fibre Heroes, and Zzoomm) will continue as the way to get retail sales, with FullFibre for wholesale, or if other branding changes happen.

full fibre is while sale, but they do as far as i know have their own brand, so hopefully Zzoomm will not stay as a brand.

Certainly seems to be more of their vans around over the last few weeks, so hoping more people decided to have them.

If a company has a regulated advantage and is awash with cash from massive investment houses, I expect more than a fantasy business plan.

Zzoomm running out of money was nobody else's fault but their own.

Edited by FibreBubble (Sat 31-May-25 09:08:44)

This merge is the first sign of consolidation where Zzoomm has been sold to FullFibre.
If you actually look at the https://fullfibre.co/isp-partners/ there's no mention of Zzoomm but all the other 14 different ISPs that are on the network.

This suggests that at the end of your contract you are free to switch to any of the other 14 ISPs on the network. The only thing I find strange is that why your speedtest would show as FullFibre if they are acting as a wholesale network!

I expect more of such mergers like this to happen to the other smaller Altnets who won't survive long term. However, it's interesting to see some of those wholesale ISPs are not much more expensive than what Zzoomm are offering! In fact, some are actually slightly cheaper.

Price factor will be the only concern when companies merge together. But as long as they are fairly similar then there's nothing to worry about.

In reply to a post by FibreBubble:

If a company has a regulated advantage and is awash with cash from massive investment houses, I expect more than a fantasy business plan.

Zzoomm running out of money was nobody else's fault but their own.

There are a lot of openreach fanboys out that would love to see all alt nets vanish. It is good that people have a choice, instead of having to go with Out of reach

I don't know how they will do things, ZZoomm is still taking orders and if I put my postcode into the Full fibre site, the computer says no. Maybe Zzoomm will be just another ISP on the network like the others.

I see no reason to change as long as the service keeps working, and the price is okay. I am not really in a contract, my contract ran out last year, i may see what they can offer me this year

Probably their IT systems haven't been updated to merge Zzoomm customers into FullFibre. Most likely it is in a transitional phase. Aside from the FullFibre website, have you checked the individual ISPs like BeFibre, Squirrel, IDNet, etc served by FullFibre to see if it shows as available there?

Of-course it's all great if the prices still remain reasonable after the contract had ended. Some ISPs price hike pretty sharply at the end of the contract. If your service is fine and the contract price hasn't steeped up then that's a relief.

But even if all is good for now, it is still useful to know just in case the takeover happens and the prices go up other ISPs on the network should have reasonable prices that match the packages and prices that Zzoomm offers.

This is always a worry I have with Altnet consolidation. Either prices will remain the same or they may go up depending on who takes over. That's why there is so much variation in prices even amongst Altnets despite being cheaper compared Openreach. Hopefully FullFibre Heroes will maintain cheaper wholesale prices for the foreseeable future.

You’re presuming that the newly merged outfit will automatically decide to offer ‘mini wholesale’ capability in all the network areas it now owns - namely the Zzoomm cabled areas.

Merging operational, management and back office systems is one thing, merging networks is another and offering access to other ISPs is a step further still.

Going “mini-wholesale” may not be as (presumably) profitable as remaining Zzoomm only in those areas. They will look carefully at revenue projections and profitability in the Zzoomm areas before deciding to go down that road.

I checked others on the network including the dreaded Talk Talk, Talk Talk comes up with openreach only and the other says nope,.

just have to wait and see what happens, i may not even be living here in the 12 months and then have to see what is available where I go.
I will stay as I am for as long as I can, I can't be bothered to go through the hassle of having another network installed here.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

There are a lot of openreach fanboys out that would love to see all alt nets vanish. It is good that people have a choice, instead of having to go with Out of reach

'Fanboys', 'Out of reach'. Really? You for real?